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Old 24th Oct 2005, 19:50
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airbus 215... A321 charter config/ based in toad hall/ in the know/ slightly bitchy.... who could this be?
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Old 25th Oct 2005, 17:29
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Is there any reason why you guys from the hall keep using real names? Particularly since its on work pc s and on company time.

Any chance of you joining in the spirit of pprune and airing your views and opinions without naming people...if you want to do that nip next door and call him from the crewing phone..its got all the contact information you need!

And i will say again with just a little more of a hint.......Why would a manager who has finally got themselves exactly where they wanted to be and managing a long haul base that is only going to expand out of LHR, leave? After taking years to get there, and after considerable criticism and investigation of their ability, not only from below decks but from above!

Sorry guys it doesnt wash.

Will wait for a reply......in office hours!

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Old 25th Oct 2005, 19:06
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Is there any reason why you guys from the hall keep using real names? Particularly since its on work pc s and on company time.
I think we can leave the readers to analyse that. Something to do with character, integrity, intelligence etc.

By the same token and for the same reasons, why do such people engage in posts (elsewhere on PPRuNe) which merely exchange greetings etc. There's a Private Message system in place for such trivia.


Any chance of you joining in the spirit of pprune and airing your views and opinions without naming people...if you want to do that nip next door and call him from the crewing phone..its got all the contact information you need!
Or use the Private Message system in place for such trivia.


And I will say again with just a little more of a hint.......Why would a manager who has finally got themselves exactly where they wanted to be and managing a long haul base that is only going to expand out of LHR, leave?
More pertinent, why would anyone want to stay in an outfit on it's way into the sewage system?


The problem is in my view, airline management in the UK have gotten complacent with safety, we are pretty safe these days not a lot of major incidents have happened over the last few years (9/11 exempt thats a security issue! before you all remind me). Our managers are increasingly from accounting departments, its the bottom line, they stretch the risk assessments and bean counting. And quite frankly in my humble opinion from one who works on the frontline, they are often taking huge risks and living on borrowed time. Fingers crossed.
As each day passes, I become increasingly amazed at the sheer luck enjoyed by this outfit.

Maybe it's like buses.....none for ages, then a whole load of them all at once.

And when the inevitable does happen I will say "I told you so" (on loads of other threads).



The thread opening question (if you remember that far back) was "Anyone out there know about pennies, rosters and interveiws?"

Wonder if the originator is still interested in joining after reading the replies?
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Old 25th Oct 2005, 23:46
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Yeah DRJ stop using names especially when you have no evidence. People might think your trying to get a certain well loved and respected crew member into trouble. Think long and hard . . follow PPRuNES rules

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Old 27th Oct 2005, 09:10
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sorry form interrupting this debate, but I have one question regarding BMI flight supervisor salary:

I was told by recruitment officer that annual basic salary for this position is 13.778 £. Monthly paid money consists of basic + London weighting + allowances, so
how much I can take home monthly after tax including everything?
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Old 27th Oct 2005, 10:29
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Have a look on the second post on the first page.

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Old 27th Oct 2005, 10:35
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ok, does this salary increase after a specific period? If yes - when and how much?
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Old 27th Oct 2005, 10:42
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yes it does. your salary goes up each year exept the third and fifth by about 30 a month. again it really depends on nightstops.

just read the threads and decide if you want to take it. i kid you not it is as we say. you will notice the only ppruners not agreeing are management, non flyers and not LHR based short haul.

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Old 28th Oct 2005, 21:39
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Dreadful salary for a no1 (£1200-£1400) working that many sectors!I didn't realise BMI paid poor salaries
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Old 28th Oct 2005, 22:18
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yep they sure are low, and you have to clean the aircraft...we have even been given a dustpan and brush ( i kid u not ). thats why around 200 crew have walked in the last 2 years, mostly to other airlines (ba), some new crew dont even last their first month, many are just waiting to be given start dates for ba. not many wants to stay, you find it hard to find anyone not leaving, looking or waiting for part time (refering to lhr). maybe management will realise they have a crisis on their hands and look to themselves for answers and do something positive and without strings........time to up the doseage

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Old 29th Oct 2005, 15:13
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I am glad, to have a chance to read and write on this forum as it gives me the sight into problem.

Personally I don't know anyone from bmi cabin crew around me to ask for advice, so I share my doubts with all of you ...

I wouldn't like to make a mistake moving to UK and working for the wrong company.
If the average salary for supervisor is 1400£, I guess is not very much, as I would have to pay for renting a room (ap. 400£ if I am not wrong), telephone bills (how much?), city transportation pass (how much?), food (how much?), possible medical visits as I've heard that bmi doesn't offer free medicals for their workers (how much for particular visit?) .... and finally how much would I save to take back to Poland...? Probably not much more than I save now.

I counted on sth not less than 1800£, but probably I didn't consider a UK tax....

There really must be sth wrong with the company, if almost all voices are against...

Meybe it isn't that bad with my current company as I thought, if we still have full free service on board, not have to clean the aircraft (nobody is even thinking about this), can choose our days off for the next month as we like, exchange our flights, almost never exceed working hours (apart from unpredictible events), usually do only 2 sectors a day (like WAW-VIE-WAW which is totally 5 hours, I have 4-sector flights no more than 3 times a month).
I only wanted to earn more money and be promoted within the new company... but now I am not sure if I can make it with bmi conditions living in London....

I count on your suggestions.
If anyone has enough patience to answer some more of my questions about supervisor position then please pm me.

thanx.
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Old 2nd Nov 2005, 22:00
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Hi Alex

There most certainly is something wrong with the company.

They even suspended (5 weeks) and disciplined someone for sending a text message to some colleagues with content they didnt like!

come and join us..........by the way I like your rosters and days of policy, any chance of a job with you.

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Old 3rd Nov 2005, 09:15
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Alex,

Being your company mate and also having been interviewed for No 1 with BMI I definitelly advise you NOT to join them. The salary is good if you consider spending it in Warsaw, but not in London. The quality of living with our LOT's salary in Warsaw is much better than in LHR, even fying as regular cabin crew not Purser. But I really understand your willingness to b promoted....

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