EBA & IR Issues in Australia (Not for those easily offended!)
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How do these QCC1 Managers get their jobs, I know of 2 ex AN flight attendants and thats all they ever were no more no less that our now wait for it .......suddenly qualified to be cabin crew managers, what the f*** I just dont get it. Why not employ real business educated managers that will stand up to executives like all multi national companies employ and when a manager see something is not going to work or be to the detriment of customers and crew they voice their disapproval. This doesnt seem to be the case within QF Cabin crew management.
Its been a while since Long Haul CSM positions were available but didnt you have to complete nearly a diploma in Airline Operations before you could score an interview and these CC managers just waltz off the shell of AN aircraft straight into QCC1 after a short stint at the DJ perfume counter.
Its been a while since Long Haul CSM positions were available but didnt you have to complete nearly a diploma in Airline Operations before you could score an interview and these CC managers just waltz off the shell of AN aircraft straight into QCC1 after a short stint at the DJ perfume counter.
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What you are trying to say SBH is that you were WRONG and you didn't know what you were talking about. I hope I have enlightened you.
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Sorry to correct you shazzbutt but a new notice came out the other day that on all a/c the curtains need to be opened.
I agree its dumb, I doubt that anyone will follow that order on night sectors, its not fair to the people sitting outside the galleys.
Who was the f%%%%ing idiot that made this policy up!
It just baffles belief!
I agree its dumb, I doubt that anyone will follow that order on night sectors, its not fair to the people sitting outside the galleys.
Who was the f%%%%ing idiot that made this policy up!
It just baffles belief!
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My apologies......I just couldn't believe anyone could be so dumb, silly me.
Rang "the office" and they confirmed it.....they are blaming someone in Canberra. "Just" the curtains dividing zones, not the galley curtains.
What about the MD J/C galley??????
Rang "the office" and they confirmed it.....they are blaming someone in Canberra. "Just" the curtains dividing zones, not the galley curtains.
What about the MD J/C galley??????
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I know shazzbutt, they are just morons,
have you noticed lately how they are just nit picking at anything they can get their grubby hands on.
Lights off, child packs, and now the latest one in the Cabin crew do's and don't is about smoking rooms in LAX.
For god's sake havent they got anything better to do! they write the most incredible ****e in there!
It's getting to the stage that no one is reading that crap! everyone I speak to just glides over it or they throw it away and I dont blame them, did you see the pages and pages about the new wheelchair policy, give me a break, i read the first paragraph and threw the rest away.
I think it must be the pregnant club that are writing this crap!
as no one with the correct hormones would be able to conjure up this stuff
have you noticed lately how they are just nit picking at anything they can get their grubby hands on.
Lights off, child packs, and now the latest one in the Cabin crew do's and don't is about smoking rooms in LAX.
For god's sake havent they got anything better to do! they write the most incredible ****e in there!
It's getting to the stage that no one is reading that crap! everyone I speak to just glides over it or they throw it away and I dont blame them, did you see the pages and pages about the new wheelchair policy, give me a break, i read the first paragraph and threw the rest away.
I think it must be the pregnant club that are writing this crap!
as no one with the correct hormones would be able to conjure up this stuff
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QF curtain farce....contd
Well, seems like I'm not the only one who thinks this curtain directive is utterly ball blowing!!!!!!
Today I thought I might ring my MANAGER ( sic!!! aka loser,aka Visitor, aka numb skull !!!) to find out how she viewed this latest sham. The call went somethinfg like this:
CCTM: "Welcome to cabin crew management this is------ speaking"
( me thinks: oh pleeeze -I almost hung up -no must hang in )
WWW: "Can you give me a reason why this curtain policy has been introduced ?"
CCTM :" eerrrr, ahhhhhh, what policy is that again ???
( me thinks: this clown has no idea what I'm talking about)
WWW: "The new Curtain policy that states they must be open at all times"
CCTM : ahhhhh, mmmmmmmmm, not sure what its about, can I put you on hold ?"
( me thinks: this is EXACTLY why the majority of crew consider you people a pack of misfits who should go back to packing shelves at Coles)
WWW: No prob's ...I'll hold.
CCTM : after about 2 mins..." Well , I've got an answer for you, apparently it has been signed off by JOHN as a cost saving of $1m so that the sky marshalls can sit in Y/C rather than J/C"
WWW: "oh really, well what about all of the fare paying customers who are sitting in C-zone who can't sleep due to the bright galley lights in their faces for hours on end?"
( here comes the punch line)
CCTM: "Oh we'll get the crew to distribute eye shades to those affected ".
WWW: " Can I just say for the record ,that that would have to be the most lame response I've heard for a long time".
CCTM: "I'm sorry you feel that way , why don't you put it in wrting to the Base manager".
WWW: "Bye "
......................................enough said. I'm not writing anything else, you can all can see it for what it is .
Thats it
Today I thought I might ring my MANAGER ( sic!!! aka loser,aka Visitor, aka numb skull !!!) to find out how she viewed this latest sham. The call went somethinfg like this:
CCTM: "Welcome to cabin crew management this is------ speaking"
( me thinks: oh pleeeze -I almost hung up -no must hang in )
WWW: "Can you give me a reason why this curtain policy has been introduced ?"
CCTM :" eerrrr, ahhhhhh, what policy is that again ???
( me thinks: this clown has no idea what I'm talking about)
WWW: "The new Curtain policy that states they must be open at all times"
CCTM : ahhhhh, mmmmmmmmm, not sure what its about, can I put you on hold ?"
( me thinks: this is EXACTLY why the majority of crew consider you people a pack of misfits who should go back to packing shelves at Coles)
WWW: No prob's ...I'll hold.
CCTM : after about 2 mins..." Well , I've got an answer for you, apparently it has been signed off by JOHN as a cost saving of $1m so that the sky marshalls can sit in Y/C rather than J/C"
WWW: "oh really, well what about all of the fare paying customers who are sitting in C-zone who can't sleep due to the bright galley lights in their faces for hours on end?"
( here comes the punch line)
CCTM: "Oh we'll get the crew to distribute eye shades to those affected ".
WWW: " Can I just say for the record ,that that would have to be the most lame response I've heard for a long time".
CCTM: "I'm sorry you feel that way , why don't you put it in wrting to the Base manager".
WWW: "Bye "
......................................enough said. I'm not writing anything else, you can all can see it for what it is .
Thats it
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reading with delight how qf managers try to #piss off# our punters even more. just left town and experienced the first time curtains open the whole sector. the reason for john wayne and his gunslinging mates need the view so they can see how pissed off our premium punters are when they have to line up behind cattle class to get to the toilet (thats john wayne junior sitting in cattle class waiting for a chance to draw). so our goldies and the rest push forward to pc which then ticks that lot off. that of course makes john wayne senior nervous (being amongst the elite ready to shoot )since we now have too many punters at or near the toilets . it makes for a fab chain reaction. as i told a couple of goldies i cant really tell you ( on orders from the csm)why the curtains are open and we put you in the spot light the whole sector, but here is JB's email address ([email protected])and why dont you ask him. i think he may get a few emails soon.
just in case you haven't noticed the safety department recently has published a number of very weird notices. somebody should tell them the real world out here is very different.
just in case you haven't noticed the safety department recently has published a number of very weird notices. somebody should tell them the real world out here is very different.
never mind I'm not funny when I'm trying to be - besides I'm insanely tired so not making much sense anyway!!! 
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Darth Dixon was on ABC news this evening spewing forth more of his usual doom and gloom.
He went on to explain that those of us at qantas will be faced with more offshoring, outsourcing, casualisation and the like.
It also seems that Qantas will be donating some of it's hard earned record profits towards The Australian Business Councils industrial relations fighting fund.
According to dixon the Australian worker will be better off under Howards IR reforms
I'm a qantas employee and australian worker geoff. How am I going to be better off with more offshoring, outsourcing and casualisation ?
Prique.
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Save some money geoff by sacking those idiots we call visitors occupying QCC1.
All of them save for the ONE who has some understanding of things, "aviation".
He went on to explain that those of us at qantas will be faced with more offshoring, outsourcing, casualisation and the like.
It also seems that Qantas will be donating some of it's hard earned record profits towards The Australian Business Councils industrial relations fighting fund.
According to dixon the Australian worker will be better off under Howards IR reforms
I'm a qantas employee and australian worker geoff. How am I going to be better off with more offshoring, outsourcing and casualisation ?
Prique.
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Save some money geoff by sacking those idiots we call visitors occupying QCC1.
All of them save for the ONE who has some understanding of things, "aviation".
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....another one bites the dust!!!!
Just heard from a mate that tried to call his " manager" aka Visitor ........"he is not with Qantas anymore" was the response from a Visitor colleague. ............ BOOTED!!!!!!
mmmmmmmmm me thinks that Kylie's experiment in "divide & conquer" aka "crew connect" is turning to crap.
I'll give the rest of them 12 months max!!!!!!
Then lets get some people in who understand that there is a difference between a 767 and a 744.........derrrrrrrrr
mmmmmmmmm me thinks that Kylie's experiment in "divide & conquer" aka "crew connect" is turning to crap.
I'll give the rest of them 12 months max!!!!!!
Then lets get some people in who understand that there is a difference between a 767 and a 744.........derrrrrrrrr
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dont forget the dame
dame margret is a member of the australian business council and a confident fo johnny. you can bet your bottom cent on it that she is contributing to the ad campaign from the BC from the qf honey pot.
as for darth dixon, he is preparing the public and staff for some rather major changes in the near future. the board meeting is this month, so there could be some more news. watch this space.
first prediction by april aussie airlines is gone.
the word is also two visitors from melbourne are checking out.
Sydney, 13 October 2005
Qantas said today it would add a fifth non-stop service from Brisbane to Los Angeles from 28 January 2006.
The Executive General Manager of Qantas, Mr John Borghetti, said the introduction of non-stop flights last year between Brisbane and Los Angeles had been very successful.
"The latest capacity growth reflects the confidence that Qantas has in further growth in tourism and travel between the USA and Queensland."
Mr Borghetti said all Brisbane-Los Angeles services would be operated by two-class
Boeing 747 aircraft featuring the airline\'s award winning Skybed in Business Class.
He said further changes to Qantas\' US schedules included moving from eight flights a
week on Melbourne-Los Angeles to a double-daily service - seven operating non-stop and
seven via Auckland.
Qantas services between Australia and mainland USA will increase to a record 39 a week from March 2006 when the airline commences new services to San Francisco.
as for darth dixon, he is preparing the public and staff for some rather major changes in the near future. the board meeting is this month, so there could be some more news. watch this space.
first prediction by april aussie airlines is gone.
the word is also two visitors from melbourne are checking out.
Sydney, 13 October 2005
Qantas said today it would add a fifth non-stop service from Brisbane to Los Angeles from 28 January 2006.
The Executive General Manager of Qantas, Mr John Borghetti, said the introduction of non-stop flights last year between Brisbane and Los Angeles had been very successful.
"The latest capacity growth reflects the confidence that Qantas has in further growth in tourism and travel between the USA and Queensland."
Mr Borghetti said all Brisbane-Los Angeles services would be operated by two-class
Boeing 747 aircraft featuring the airline\'s award winning Skybed in Business Class.
He said further changes to Qantas\' US schedules included moving from eight flights a
week on Melbourne-Los Angeles to a double-daily service - seven operating non-stop and
seven via Auckland.
Qantas services between Australia and mainland USA will increase to a record 39 a week from March 2006 when the airline commences new services to San Francisco.
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it gets better
remember early this year darth said they make a decision on aircraft replacement around may at the board meeting. then it was pushed back to the october board meeting. now the board meets in december (contrary to my earlier post). still working on the future strategy i suppose. wouldn't have to do anything that johnny getting his ir game through by then. just another cynic i suppose.
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arrogance
The arrogance of dickson! knows no boundaries!
The staff have been atempting to cut costs to save their jobs and he goes and gives money to the business association for industrial relations reforms,
The staff have been atempting to cut costs to save their jobs and he goes and gives money to the business association for industrial relations reforms,
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Reports from reliable sources suggest that B First trainers are telling the AKL based crew that CSS and CSM positions will be made available to them shortly.
My understanding was that our EBA prevented these promotions from occuring in offshore bases??
Anyone have any info??
My understanding was that our EBA prevented these promotions from occuring in offshore bases??
Anyone have any info??
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it's all BS from the AKL crew! as usual.
Our EBA does prevent it!
they are dangling the carrot!
Anything to improve their morale that doesn't involve giving them more money!
Plus don't listen to them! they will do and say anything to stir us up.
Our EBA does prevent it!
they are dangling the carrot!
Anything to improve their morale that doesn't involve giving them more money!
Plus don't listen to them! they will do and say anything to stir us up.