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Another Lie
Craptain Q comes out of the blue with another dreamt up lie.
Didn't happen did it ? Please don't bore us with continual cheap shots from the cheap seats.
Name the flight and date, nobody in LHR op's has heard of it only diversion was a medical this week, first in 8 weeks so deal in facts not fools.
Bring it on
PM me captain and we'll keep it out of public domain
Didn't happen did it ? Please don't bore us with continual cheap shots from the cheap seats.
Name the flight and date, nobody in LHR op's has heard of it only diversion was a medical this week, first in 8 weeks so deal in facts not fools.
Bring it on
PM me captain and we'll keep it out of public domain
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I can see the following sequence of events happening quite clearly:
"Flight deck"
"Yes, this is the CSM, you cannot land this aeroplane as our newbie hosties tried to get a bit more break time in and started the service late, therefore, the pax have not had their meal. Will advise you when it is ok to land."
"No worries, we have extra fuel, about 10 tonnes, to hold for an hour, plus another 10 to fly up to Manchester and then back, in fact put some extra on at the start of the flight and offloaded commercial pax and freight due to potential cabin crew incompetance. Let us know when it is safe to land"
"No worries, will only be an hour or so"
PA to the pax "ladies and gentlemen, this is the captain, you will be not making it to london this morning as we are unable to serve your meal in time, therefore in order to allow you to finish eating we will fly a bit further up to Manchester, and if we have enough fuel and you are well and truly satisfied, we may just be able to make it back to Heathrow. Thankyou for flying Qantas, hope to see you again in the future."
Galleyhag, following is a copy of your posting on the qantas panel interviews thread posted today. However, your post above defines any fixed term contractor as a scab.
GalleyHag
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posted 5th May 2005 17:11
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How depressing is the following information from the FAAA Victorian branch www.faaa.net. This is just 2 parts of the newsletter I thought would be relevant to this thread:
5 May 2005
Attention All Victorian Based Long Haul Cabin Crew
Sadly the end of Bid Period 237 will see several of our colleagues on fixed term contracts and secondment leave our ranks. Priority of employment will be offered to these individuals over the next 6 months. However, the Company has categorically stated that there will be no additional employment within Australian Long Haul in the near future. I therefore urge all affected members to submit applications to all areas of flying within the Qantas Group as soon as possible.
Having worked with many of these crew, I can only commend them on their commitment and the contributions they have made during their employment.
The Future of Flying?
The Association is aware of the angst of members regarding the continuing reduction of traditional flying out of Victoria . Qantas CEO Mr Geoff Dixon has made it abundantly clear that the Company, through its Sustainable Futures Program, will seek to achieve maximum cost efficiencies. In doing this, the Qantas Group will restructure its workforce as required, and Long Haul Flight Attendants are not exempt. Management have stated that there will be an alignment of flying to achieve the greatest degree of productivity within the terms of the EBA.
The Association will actively campaign to avoid marginalisation of the Long Haul Division and while many of the changes may be unpalatable, they will be inevitable. We will continue to look to the future with our primary objective being to maintain employment for ALL Australian Based Long Haul Flight Attendants.
"Flight deck"
"Yes, this is the CSM, you cannot land this aeroplane as our newbie hosties tried to get a bit more break time in and started the service late, therefore, the pax have not had their meal. Will advise you when it is ok to land."
"No worries, we have extra fuel, about 10 tonnes, to hold for an hour, plus another 10 to fly up to Manchester and then back, in fact put some extra on at the start of the flight and offloaded commercial pax and freight due to potential cabin crew incompetance. Let us know when it is safe to land"
"No worries, will only be an hour or so"
PA to the pax "ladies and gentlemen, this is the captain, you will be not making it to london this morning as we are unable to serve your meal in time, therefore in order to allow you to finish eating we will fly a bit further up to Manchester, and if we have enough fuel and you are well and truly satisfied, we may just be able to make it back to Heathrow. Thankyou for flying Qantas, hope to see you again in the future."
Galleyhag, following is a copy of your posting on the qantas panel interviews thread posted today. However, your post above defines any fixed term contractor as a scab.
GalleyHag
Over 250 posts so far. Perhaps I should click here and order a Personal Title
posted 5th May 2005 17:11
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How depressing is the following information from the FAAA Victorian branch www.faaa.net. This is just 2 parts of the newsletter I thought would be relevant to this thread:
5 May 2005
Attention All Victorian Based Long Haul Cabin Crew
Sadly the end of Bid Period 237 will see several of our colleagues on fixed term contracts and secondment leave our ranks. Priority of employment will be offered to these individuals over the next 6 months. However, the Company has categorically stated that there will be no additional employment within Australian Long Haul in the near future. I therefore urge all affected members to submit applications to all areas of flying within the Qantas Group as soon as possible.
Having worked with many of these crew, I can only commend them on their commitment and the contributions they have made during their employment.
The Future of Flying?
The Association is aware of the angst of members regarding the continuing reduction of traditional flying out of Victoria . Qantas CEO Mr Geoff Dixon has made it abundantly clear that the Company, through its Sustainable Futures Program, will seek to achieve maximum cost efficiencies. In doing this, the Qantas Group will restructure its workforce as required, and Long Haul Flight Attendants are not exempt. Management have stated that there will be an alignment of flying to achieve the greatest degree of productivity within the terms of the EBA.
The Association will actively campaign to avoid marginalisation of the Long Haul Division and while many of the changes may be unpalatable, they will be inevitable. We will continue to look to the future with our primary objective being to maintain employment for ALL Australian Based Long Haul Flight Attendants.
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Wouldn't surprise me at all if this happened.
I flew with a CSS last week who had only been with Qantas 2 WEEKS!!! (LHR base) She had been called out of catagory due to shortage of CSS's.
She was lovely but had no idea. So if on a full flight she has done the service late they would have had to circle around in order to collect service items from the cabin.
On this flight though she had several Aussie crew on board who new how the timing/service worked.
Makes me wonder why they didn't ask me (with several years) experience or on of the other crew to operate as CSS? How I remember, we would be asking for additional payment to operate out of catagory where as this new girl has no idea you get out of catagory allowances.....saving cents yet again.
Qantas the spirit of tight arsed, mean, lying management.
I flew with a CSS last week who had only been with Qantas 2 WEEKS!!! (LHR base) She had been called out of catagory due to shortage of CSS's.
She was lovely but had no idea. So if on a full flight she has done the service late they would have had to circle around in order to collect service items from the cabin.
On this flight though she had several Aussie crew on board who new how the timing/service worked.
Makes me wonder why they didn't ask me (with several years) experience or on of the other crew to operate as CSS? How I remember, we would be asking for additional payment to operate out of catagory where as this new girl has no idea you get out of catagory allowances.....saving cents yet again.
Qantas the spirit of tight arsed, mean, lying management.
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White Pointer
My post on the Qantas Panel Interview thread was to highlight the fact that there would be NO opportunity for employment within Australian long haul and the future of flying long haul for the benefit of people currently going through the interview process.
I could care less about the fixed term crew!
My post on the Qantas Panel Interview thread was to highlight the fact that there would be NO opportunity for employment within Australian long haul and the future of flying long haul for the benefit of people currently going through the interview process.
I could care less about the fixed term crew!
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You guys have got to be kidding. This is the most hilarious thread I have read in a long time.
To think you would divert an aircraft because the cabin has not been cleaned up shows a lack reality. Every airline has some form of communication when on descent in the event that some persons don't recognise the change in sounds, pitch etc. If the pilots did not communicate the fact they were on descent and the cabin should be ready for landing means they would have to shoulder lots of the blame. But to go to Manchester - you have to be kidding?
At the end of the day, most descents take nearly 25 to 30 minutes. Even if all trays full of food were on everyones laps, a crew should be able to pick them all up and stow them in quick fashion. Bad luck if the punters have not finished eating. Say 15 pax per crew, how long would it take for each person to collect 15 trays each, stow them and perform their normal duties.
If a crew cannot do that, then I would hate to see what they would be capable of. Didn't a BA 747 have all 4 engines go out not long after departing Asia for Aus years back due to volcanic ash. The crew managed to clean everything up and do a ditching prep in no time at all. Don't think they would have said hang off the ditching until the service has finished.
Get a grip on the real world.
To think you would divert an aircraft because the cabin has not been cleaned up shows a lack reality. Every airline has some form of communication when on descent in the event that some persons don't recognise the change in sounds, pitch etc. If the pilots did not communicate the fact they were on descent and the cabin should be ready for landing means they would have to shoulder lots of the blame. But to go to Manchester - you have to be kidding?
At the end of the day, most descents take nearly 25 to 30 minutes. Even if all trays full of food were on everyones laps, a crew should be able to pick them all up and stow them in quick fashion. Bad luck if the punters have not finished eating. Say 15 pax per crew, how long would it take for each person to collect 15 trays each, stow them and perform their normal duties.
If a crew cannot do that, then I would hate to see what they would be capable of. Didn't a BA 747 have all 4 engines go out not long after departing Asia for Aus years back due to volcanic ash. The crew managed to clean everything up and do a ditching prep in no time at all. Don't think they would have said hang off the ditching until the service has finished.
Get a grip on the real world.
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he's dreaming
there is absolutely no way r3p is on the london base
no one would put up with this snivelling little wimp
mate you chose the base .you're on it. you're a "scab "or whatever some of these dopey posters want to refer to you as. don't try and suck up to aust based crew now
and as for your attitude :if you are up here -you are dead weight, excess baggage
"they didn't ask me..."big sheilas blouse
there are 180 aust based crew operating out of LHR
we are not scabs - we are fully endorsed and suported by the FAAA through an overwhelming vote at the last EBA
live with it
no one would put up with this snivelling little wimp
mate you chose the base .you're on it. you're a "scab "or whatever some of these dopey posters want to refer to you as. don't try and suck up to aust based crew now
and as for your attitude :if you are up here -you are dead weight, excess baggage
"they didn't ask me..."big sheilas blouse
there are 180 aust based crew operating out of LHR
we are not scabs - we are fully endorsed and suported by the FAAA through an overwhelming vote at the last EBA
live with it
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crustydemon,
its obvious you know nothing of the inexperience of many of those now operating for qfuk.
Especially those running the cabins.
No captain that I know of is going to land an aircraft [fuel permitting] with a cabin that is unsafe to do so.
Your assumptions about the time needed to clear a cabin and prepare for landing indicate that you have never worked in one.
Miss your slot into LHR at 6am and you'll be dizzy doing circles north of LHR.
30+ minutes of holding is not unusual.
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huge slant,
"we are not scabs - we are fully endorsed and suported by the FAAA through an overwhelming vote at the last EBA".
The "spin" is so much that its all I can do just to stand up.
Regards to kylie.
Jettlager
its obvious you know nothing of the inexperience of many of those now operating for qfuk.
Especially those running the cabins.
No captain that I know of is going to land an aircraft [fuel permitting] with a cabin that is unsafe to do so.
Your assumptions about the time needed to clear a cabin and prepare for landing indicate that you have never worked in one.
Miss your slot into LHR at 6am and you'll be dizzy doing circles north of LHR.
30+ minutes of holding is not unusual.
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huge slant,
"we are not scabs - we are fully endorsed and suported by the FAAA through an overwhelming vote at the last EBA".
The "spin" is so much that its all I can do just to stand up.
Regards to kylie.
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For now, this thread has run its' course, and has degenerated into the usual rock-throwing party, so we'll put it to bed: I'm sure that the subject will return again to impress us all with the sparkling charm, wit and perception beloved of a small number of QF crew.
