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Old 16th Mar 2005, 16:13
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shmuch,

In an attempt to answer your question
Why does Astraeus get so badly battered by everyone on this site??
I personally think that they are an easy target on this site. It is a well known fact that this site is moderated by members of the Astraeus payroll (possibly run but i am not 100% on that, so don't shoot me) so people take pot shots on here attempting to stir things up and air their grievances as they know that someone from Astraeus will see it.

That's my theory anyway.

I have absolutely nothing to do with the Astraeus but do find some of the bashing a little childish at times. The Astraues Yellow Fever thread is still an all time favourite of mine on this site althought the circumstances behind it aren't particularly nice. (I would link it but i will get timed out by my server while looking for it.)

Edit: Apologies it was Lassa Fever not Yellow Fever.

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...light=Astraeus

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Old 16th Mar 2005, 17:10
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you have no idea how horrible they are to work for, do you?

The people (cabin crew), are so unprofessional , I did have the occassional nice senior, I would love to mention their names, one used to work for BA, older guy, a couple of others who I know for sure wanted to leave, absolutely great people. Fantasi
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Old 16th Mar 2005, 18:22
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Malachy, I'm sorry - this is not a one-way bashing exercise. If you are who I think you are, then I would be happy to hit back with a few home truths about your approach to hard work. It is not appropriate to do that in public but I do think it is appropriate that anyone reading this understands that. Although you may consider life working for Astraeus was not good, I do think that you were very much the cause of your own problems. Enough said. If you want to discuss this further then please PM me.
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Old 16th Mar 2005, 20:15
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Well Malachi"£$%. Ha Ha Ha..........as u were sacked coz u were sooooooooooo lazy Im not surprized u are trying to hit back but if i were you id put more effort into sorting out ure own issues first. The seniors ive worked with are highly professional and totally commited to wot they get paid for. First Class.

Just a pity more females didnt get promoted on the last round he he. ........More appealing 2 me.

ciao itagianni!
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Old 17th Mar 2005, 07:05
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Why dont' you try counting the numbers that left astraeus in the last 3 years? So many guys, so many.

Also, I wasn't sacked, I worked my time there, I worked hard, so you don't know who I am.

I am flying with the world's best airline now though.

BRITISH AIRWAYS ALL THE WAY
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Old 17th Mar 2005, 12:16
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Malachy, I'm sure I do know who you are and I didn't say anything about you being sacked. However yet again your unwillingness to consider that there may have been anything wrong with your approach to work is typical of your approach to life. I stand by what I say. Maybe if you stopped for long enough to think about how others see you rather than spending so much of your time thinking about yourself, life may treat you rather better.
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Old 17th Mar 2005, 13:31
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Wheelbarrow,

May I suggest you get yourself educated, possibly in English grammar and spelling?

I'm sure you did go to school, but it just doesn't show much.
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Old 20th Mar 2005, 06:38
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malachy8985 - you wrote "Wheelbarrow, May I suggest you get yourself educated, possibly in English grammar and spelling? I'm sure you did go to school, but it just doesn't show much.".

Uhm, have you considered that Wheelbarrow's first language might not be not English ?! ( i.e. have a careful look at how that contribution is closed ) and / or in just what additional languages are you fluent (to the extent that you could go on an International bulletin board and add your two'penneth) ?

I rather suspect that somewhere there's a village that's missing you.
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Old 21st Mar 2005, 21:32
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Puritan,

Stop being so pedantic. .
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Old 22nd Mar 2005, 01:25
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Astraeus is coming up for there 3rd Birthday now and are going from strength to strength. The people that work at AEU House
are all great people the directors and management team are all very approachable.

This season will see lots of new routes for AEU another 757 arriving and a base at LBA, so there will be lots of good things to look forward to and hopefully promotions for CC to get SFA

All I can say is the company is better off with people like hostessmostess and malachy8985 out of it. I am sure the grass is greener at BA shame you wont get chance of Purser for along long time, and once the close Euro Gatwick you enjoy that M25
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Old 22nd Mar 2005, 14:41
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Well I have just about read enough of this, I think there are some very bitter people out there who, for whatever reason are intent on laying into Astraeus. Now Every airline has good points and bad points, every airline has crew that people like flying with and crew people don't like flying with. Now why have some of you decided to make this a personal slanging match rather than expressing an opinion? Do you not think that a little unfair?

Ok so some airlines have been around a lot longer than Astraeus and yes AEU is just about to celebrate its 3rd Birthday but every airline had to start somewhere. Whether it is from the ashes of another airline, merging and rebranding two airlines or from scratch. Now as AEU started as a brand new airline you have to give everyone credit for getting them to the established and successful charter airline that they are now.

I work for Astraeus, infact I joined last year as a direct entry SCCM in May and what I am reading here on this thread is totally pathetic. If someone wants a career flying surely we should be encouraging them? Yes give them advice and share you experiences but why make it a personal slanging match? Every Astraeus thread seems to give the same sort of response as this one and the only people who slag it off are the same on every thread. If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything.

Yes it is widely known that pprune have some of their moderators who are Astraeus employees, who honestly cares who they work for? They are doing a job in their own time and not getting paid to do it. Yes Danny Fyne (who set up pprune) worked for Astraeus but he left a couple of months ago to work for Virgin I think it is. There are a lot of Mods here who don't work for AEU as well so don't forget that either but does it really matter who they are and who they work for?

As for Astraeus as a company to work for, well that is up to the individual who works at Astraeus. If someone has not had a good time working for Astraeus then fair enough, knock it on the head and put it down to experience. No employer can keep 100 percent of its staff happy all the time and I quite accept that some of you may have had some bad experiences in previous or current airlines, whether it be at BA, Astraeus, Virgin, First Choice or anyone else. What you have to understand is the majority of people who work at AEU enjoy it and if they don’t they it is their decision to stay or go, if that individual stays then they have to deal with their problems, if they go then best of luck to them. What right do they have to make a personal attack on individuals or the company? If they want to share their experience and story then so be it. Advice is fine attacks are not.

Now I appreciate, and I’m sure a lot of other people will agree that Astraeus has a high turnover of staff, Ok well so does Easyjet, Ryanair, First Choice, My Travel and a few other companies, even Tesco, McDonalds, Woolworths and other companies have high turnovers of staff. What I am saying is that people join a company and when another opportunity comes along that will further their career then it is up to them to seize the moment. What is wrong with that? Ninety-nine percent of us have ambitions and goals and it is up to us to achieve those targets we set ourselves. For those of us who have chosen to stay at Astraeus it is our decision and I for one am happy at Astraeus. Yes I have goals and ambitions but I like the company I work for and I can achieve a lot at Astraeus, there are the same opportunities available to each and every one of us who works for Astraeus. It does not matter how long you have flown for, if you are up to the standard required of a SCCM, Standards Coordinator, Trainer or whatever other position you want to apply for then the chances are you will be successful. I have not met anyone who does not deserve to be in the position they are in at Astraeus.

I am not saying Astraeus hasn’t got its faults because there is no airline that is perfect. However in the three years that AEU has been operating surely they deserve a lot more credit than some of you are giving them, let us look at what happened thee and a half years ago and look at how the industry was then, most people would have thought anyone who wanted to start an airline that soon after 9/11 must be mad, but the dedication of the staff have made that possible and successful. Astraeus is growing and expanding and with more routes and bases coming along it certainly is an airline worth working for.

Why do you always hear of bad news on the TV? Because that is what people want to hear? Why do you not hear about the good news that happens in the world? Because if you heard about the good things there would be nothing else on TV. It is the same here, everyone wants to slate Astraeus but if all the people who work for and enjoy it at Astraeus post on here then I’m sure the doubters would be outnumbered 20 to 1.


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Old 22nd Mar 2005, 16:31
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London Jets,

Superb post

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Old 22nd Mar 2005, 18:34
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I worked at Astraeus house until late last year, ended up having to leave due to re-locating to Oxford , the crew were mainly a great bunch but did have a few losers, which luckily never had their contracts extended after one season, that would be for many reasons;

Been Pissed for report,
Calling in sick on weekends when they were seen on the shant the night before,
Been generally crap,
Thinking the company revoled around them!

And once this deadwood had moved on, the Company has grown and grown, people who have left and just want to slag them off would no doubt fall in to one of the above catagories, Please find something better to do with your time

Alberville and SPFlyer, God bless crew!!!! without them we would have no stories!!!
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Old 22nd Mar 2005, 18:57
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Going to close this thread now as there seems little scope for development beyond more pointless Astraeus bashing - besides which London Jets seems to have covered the subject eloquently and comprehensively.

malachy8985 I'm sure that all of us lesser mortals, in lesser airlines, who dont enjoy your good fortune in working for such an esteemed employer wish you well for the future with BA: Our loss can only be their gain.

And for the record, before the inevitable comments. No, I don't work for Astraeus, and never have, nor do I personally know anyone who does.
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