Sexual harassment or acceptable?
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Sexual harassment or acceptable?
In today's day and age, who knows what's acceptable or not?
A passenger, while waiting for a crew member to open the a/c door and out of earshot of anyone else, says to the FA: "Oh I just wanted to tell you that you have a most beautiful smile" and, on that comment, deplanes and walks up the jetway, never to be seen again. Quite obviously no intention to take matters further as the passenger in question waited until the last moment.
What do you think? Acceptable, sexual harassment or just plain inappropriate?
A passenger, while waiting for a crew member to open the a/c door and out of earshot of anyone else, says to the FA: "Oh I just wanted to tell you that you have a most beautiful smile" and, on that comment, deplanes and walks up the jetway, never to be seen again. Quite obviously no intention to take matters further as the passenger in question waited until the last moment.
What do you think? Acceptable, sexual harassment or just plain inappropriate?
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Sorry, but all my mates tell me that I am always too slow to tell any girl I fancy them.... whether attached or not... If some guy has said to you "you have the most beautifull smile" take it as a compliment. Unless anything further is said, it is just a compliment. I have often wished I've had the guts to say such things, especially tonight in the pub!!!!! so yeah, you obviously have something that someone yearns for in life... be happy 
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Where's the problem???
I think it's lovely that the passenger gave such a compliment without it just being for a shag!
I think the passenger's compliment sounds genuine. People are always in a hurry to complain, it's human nature. Therefore this compliment should be taken as that and nothing more.
Can't see anything wrong with it. Wish I got compliments like that!
I think the passenger's compliment sounds genuine. People are always in a hurry to complain, it's human nature. Therefore this compliment should be taken as that and nothing more.
Can't see anything wrong with it. Wish I got compliments like that!
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Passenger: Male
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Sounds ominous! Care to exand your thoughts?
I agree, it's pretty sad when this kind of question needs to be asked. But, having worked in the US once, we were under strict instructions that any comments like that could lead to dismissal. I know this situation is not "the worksplace", but I was wondering whether cabin crew would nevertheless consider it as "threatening".
Does it mame any difference whether the comment is made at the end of the flight or halfway through?
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Sounds ominous! Care to exand your thoughts?
I agree, it's pretty sad when this kind of question needs to be asked. But, having worked in the US once, we were under strict instructions that any comments like that could lead to dismissal. I know this situation is not "the worksplace", but I was wondering whether cabin crew would nevertheless consider it as "threatening".
Does it mame any difference whether the comment is made at the end of the flight or halfway through?
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it's a sad sad world we live in
GOOD GOD !!!!!!
How on earth can a person telling another they have a beautiful smile be SEXUAL HARASSMENT??? It's a compliment. We all need a serious reality check here. I can only assume it's a man talking to a female FA and it doesn't sound like the comment was in anyway threatening or seedy.No way would any man receiving a compliment by a female even think of it as anything else than a compliment.
He didn't pinch her ass, make rude suggestions, he didn't touch her or sexually approach her, verbally or physically. Does anyone else agree that this world is getting out of hand with these do's and don'ts of today's society? Next men will not be able to look at women anymore, without it being objected to on moral/ethical grounds. If a human being cannot cope with a simple comment like that, without taking offense, then we are in deep doodoo, and this place is gonna get real boring, real quick!
How on earth are you suppose to meet a woman if it is no longer acceptable to talk/pay a compliment without it being deemed sexual harassment. There is a line NOT to be crossed by anyone, male or female, but telling someone they have a nice smile is a long long way away from that line.
Am I missing the point? Is it because it is the 'work place' and as such this person was made to feel a tiny bit uncomfortable because someone found him/her attractive, and unlike a bar/club situation could not get away from the person who paid the compliment? If that is so, it's all a bit too paranoid I think...
Just my views but it seems nowadays no one can say anything anymore. At worse the compliment made could have made the FA feel a tiny bit self conscious, at a push, but surely that is all. Calling it sexual harassment or even thinking along those lines is inflamatory and really dangerous.GET A GRIP PEOPLE!
How on earth can a person telling another they have a beautiful smile be SEXUAL HARASSMENT??? It's a compliment. We all need a serious reality check here. I can only assume it's a man talking to a female FA and it doesn't sound like the comment was in anyway threatening or seedy.No way would any man receiving a compliment by a female even think of it as anything else than a compliment.
He didn't pinch her ass, make rude suggestions, he didn't touch her or sexually approach her, verbally or physically. Does anyone else agree that this world is getting out of hand with these do's and don'ts of today's society? Next men will not be able to look at women anymore, without it being objected to on moral/ethical grounds. If a human being cannot cope with a simple comment like that, without taking offense, then we are in deep doodoo, and this place is gonna get real boring, real quick!
How on earth are you suppose to meet a woman if it is no longer acceptable to talk/pay a compliment without it being deemed sexual harassment. There is a line NOT to be crossed by anyone, male or female, but telling someone they have a nice smile is a long long way away from that line.
Am I missing the point? Is it because it is the 'work place' and as such this person was made to feel a tiny bit uncomfortable because someone found him/her attractive, and unlike a bar/club situation could not get away from the person who paid the compliment? If that is so, it's all a bit too paranoid I think...
Just my views but it seems nowadays no one can say anything anymore. At worse the compliment made could have made the FA feel a tiny bit self conscious, at a push, but surely that is all. Calling it sexual harassment or even thinking along those lines is inflamatory and really dangerous.GET A GRIP PEOPLE!
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Snoopy by name snoopy by nature.
I don't mean to be rude, BUT how about doing yourself a favour by deleting this post.
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Edit: In addition to the above... I just feel the post really does trivialise sexual harassment.
What you have explained is clearly a compliment.
The following defines Sexual harassment.
The incident you have described is clearly NOT.
Sexaul harassment is a serious work place issue suffered by many and was very prevelent prior to laws being introduced to make it an unlawful offence.
Sexual harassment is unwelcome sexual conduct which makes a person feel offended, humiliated and/or intimidated where that reaction is reasonable in the circumstances.
Sexual harassment can take various forms. It can involve:
unwelcome touching, hugging or kissing;
staring or leering;
suggestive comments or jokes;
sexually explicit pictures, screen savers or posters;
unwanted invitations to go out on dates or requests for sex;
intrusive questions about an employees private life or body;
unnecessary familiarity;
insults or taunts based on your sex;
sexually explicit emails or SMS messages;
accessing sexually explicit internet sites;
behaviour which would also be an offence under criminal law, such as physical assault, indecent exposure, sexual assault, stalking or obscene communications.
Sexual harassment is not sexual interaction, flirtation, attraction or friendship which is invited, mutual, consensual or reciprocated.
Sexual harassment is a legally recognised form of sex discrimination. Sexual harassment and sex discrimination are both unlawful under the Sex Discrimination Act.
By all means continue the debate, however I feel you are barking up the wrong tree snoopy... pun intended.
PS: I think your name is super cute,
Oh and thats a genuine COMPLIMENT!
I don't mean to be rude, BUT how about doing yourself a favour by deleting this post.
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Edit: In addition to the above... I just feel the post really does trivialise sexual harassment.
What you have explained is clearly a compliment.
The following defines Sexual harassment.
The incident you have described is clearly NOT.
Sexaul harassment is a serious work place issue suffered by many and was very prevelent prior to laws being introduced to make it an unlawful offence.
Sexual harassment is unwelcome sexual conduct which makes a person feel offended, humiliated and/or intimidated where that reaction is reasonable in the circumstances.
Sexual harassment can take various forms. It can involve:
unwelcome touching, hugging or kissing;
staring or leering;
suggestive comments or jokes;
sexually explicit pictures, screen savers or posters;
unwanted invitations to go out on dates or requests for sex;
intrusive questions about an employees private life or body;
unnecessary familiarity;
insults or taunts based on your sex;
sexually explicit emails or SMS messages;
accessing sexually explicit internet sites;
behaviour which would also be an offence under criminal law, such as physical assault, indecent exposure, sexual assault, stalking or obscene communications.
Sexual harassment is not sexual interaction, flirtation, attraction or friendship which is invited, mutual, consensual or reciprocated.
Sexual harassment is a legally recognised form of sex discrimination. Sexual harassment and sex discrimination are both unlawful under the Sex Discrimination Act.
By all means continue the debate, however I feel you are barking up the wrong tree snoopy... pun intended.
PS: I think your name is super cute,
Oh and thats a genuine COMPLIMENT!
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Why should he? It's a reasonable question, politely phrased that several people have taken the time to answer.
For the record - I'd be well chuffed if it happened - but it never has!
For the record - I'd be well chuffed if it happened - but it never has!
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No, no, wait!!! It gets much worse than that! I actually heard a female cabin crew member, quite openly and shamelessly I might add, ask several male passengers if they wanted coffee. God, what a tart! Poor blokes just wanted to read the paper without being subjected to an overt approach for sex.
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Sorry if I hit a nerve. I thought it was a legitimate question. Don't think there's much point deleting it, but suggest you skip over it next time you log on as it is obviously of little interest to you.
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I couldn't agreed more! On a recent flight I was alone up front and had three FAs fawning over me the whole flight. Didn't leave me alone for one minute. It was absolutely aw......some.
For those that have seemed rather incredulous that one could ask such a question, I have some sympathy. It is really sad that things like this become an issue. For those that have given your input and thoughts, thanks for taking the time.
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Sorry if I hit a nerve. I thought it was a legitimate question. Don't think there's much point deleting it, but suggest you skip over it next time you log on as it is obviously of little interest to you.
witchdoctor
I couldn't agreed more! On a recent flight I was alone up front and had three FAs fawning over me the whole flight. Didn't leave me alone for one minute. It was absolutely aw......some.
For those that have seemed rather incredulous that one could ask such a question, I have some sympathy. It is really sad that things like this become an issue. For those that have given your input and thoughts, thanks for taking the time.
Snoopy
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Next men will not be able to look at women anymore, without it being objected to on moral/ethical grounds.
and some others rushing headlong in that direction?
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Regardless of what sex the two people are, that is perfectly acceptable. Infact it's lovely!
I can tell you from experience that when a passenger pays you a compliment it can really make a crew members day!
I can tell you from experience that when a passenger pays you a compliment it can really make a crew members day!
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If he'd given you a bunch of flowers to go with the compliment, would you have minded?
It's called the real world, where people notice and interact with each other, not the ghastly, sterile PC world that some people like to live in.
Enjoy!
It's called the real world, where people notice and interact with each other, not the ghastly, sterile PC world that some people like to live in.
Enjoy!