Astraeus for the summer? opinions please
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puritan.
You should be in-charge of recruitment they sound a fantastic airline to work for.
If you enjoy it then that is good but dont think they are the best thing since sliced bread.
you have your opinion and i will have mine.
Oh and by the way standing under a wing all day might be good for some as the big fat pay packet can keep me warm.
You should be in-charge of recruitment they sound a fantastic airline to work for.
If you enjoy it then that is good but dont think they are the best thing since sliced bread.
you have your opinion and i will have mine.
Oh and by the way standing under a wing all day might be good for some as the big fat pay packet can keep me warm.
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patmustard you're certainly entitled to your opinion ( also remembering that you don't actually work at AEU ) and, as you say, I'm entitled to mine ( wherein I do work there ).
I don't think that AEU are the best thing since sliced bread, indeed I believe there is room for improvement - [aside] imho, the two best airlines that I've worked for were Air Europe and GoFly - but wherein I hope that AEU will eventually have some of the better parts of both of these ( it certainly should do as most of the people running AEU have backgrounds in both of these aforementioned carriers ).... so, give it time.
Nb. AEU, has gone from zero to 8 aircraft and over 300 staff all in only 2 years 4 months !
I don't think that AEU are the best thing since sliced bread, indeed I believe there is room for improvement - [aside] imho, the two best airlines that I've worked for were Air Europe and GoFly - but wherein I hope that AEU will eventually have some of the better parts of both of these ( it certainly should do as most of the people running AEU have backgrounds in both of these aforementioned carriers ).... so, give it time.
Nb. AEU, has gone from zero to 8 aircraft and over 300 staff all in only 2 years 4 months !
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If you knew anything about AEU, you would know that AEU doesnt sell tickets itself, you would have to go to one of the companies/tour operaters that charter them. Try looking on their website - it lists all the companies/tour operaters there!
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If you knew anything about AEU, you would know that AEU doesnt sell tickets itself, you would have to go to one of the companies/tour operaters that charter them. Try looking on their website - it lists all the companies/tour operaters there!
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Ticket buying!
I dont like its in their business plan to sell tickets direct!
Its like can u buy tickets for Titan Airways or Flight Line!
When I was employed by AEU, we did alot of work for "the big boys" ie mytravel and helping out other scheduled carriers when their aircraft broke down! Also they have proved to be better than the other airline that also fly the oil contracts! Numberous times the crew were told by the pax that we were nicer, friendly and more professional than the other carrier!
Good luck to Astraeus is what I shall and all the crew that sail on her (or him!)
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Its like can u buy tickets for Titan Airways or Flight Line!
When I was employed by AEU, we did alot of work for "the big boys" ie mytravel and helping out other scheduled carriers when their aircraft broke down! Also they have proved to be better than the other airline that also fly the oil contracts! Numberous times the crew were told by the pax that we were nicer, friendly and more professional than the other carrier!
Good luck to Astraeus is what I shall and all the crew that sail on her (or him!)
FMB xx
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I've been browsing for a while and never wanted to comment but I must say that Astraeus training course was excellent and the safety is excellent so no one can touch them for that.
I'm no longer crew for them but that isn't because I didn't make the grade before anyone starts on that issue.
They are certainly not the best to work for in terms of cabin crew, having all your commission taking away is not nice especially when we worked so hard earning that money, and I always smiled and done my job to the best of the ability.
There are a few lazy crew there as well and please take a look and you will see who works hard and who doesn't.
Other than that the management is fine and lovely and I've never had any problems, just a few crew who are lazy and money being taken away for no reason. I would say it is an overall nice company if you take those 2 things away.
Please please don\'t attack me for this but get computerised bars, so the crew don\'t have to look after the galley, serve their rows and count the bars on 1.5 hour flights(what a nightmare).
Other than that the standards of safety are excellent at Astraeus and long may it continue.
I'm no longer crew for them but that isn't because I didn't make the grade before anyone starts on that issue.
They are certainly not the best to work for in terms of cabin crew, having all your commission taking away is not nice especially when we worked so hard earning that money, and I always smiled and done my job to the best of the ability.
There are a few lazy crew there as well and please take a look and you will see who works hard and who doesn't.
Other than that the management is fine and lovely and I've never had any problems, just a few crew who are lazy and money being taken away for no reason. I would say it is an overall nice company if you take those 2 things away.
Please please don\'t attack me for this but get computerised bars, so the crew don\'t have to look after the galley, serve their rows and count the bars on 1.5 hour flights(what a nightmare).
Other than that the standards of safety are excellent at Astraeus and long may it continue.
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patmustard - Astraeus is an 'independent' charter airline.
This, in part, means that it is not directly associated with a 'vertically integrated' operation, e.g. such as, say, MyTravel, that might have travel agents in the High Streets, and an in-house airline to fly their passengers, and affiliated hotels in resorts, and resort reps, etc, veritably the rack’m high sell’m cheap type operations ( which I’ll admit is something of a product generalisation ).
Likewise AEU is not a scheduled service operator ( albeit AEU might supply seat capacity to a travel agent customer that is selling what amounts to scheduled service ).
Accordingly, AEU provides:
I hope this helps to explain the whys and wherefores as to why you can’t procure a ticket direct from AEU.
Nb. You can see some the companies who contract with AEU by navigation the links under ‘Where we fly to’ menu item – where this is not a definitive listing.
green-eyedbabe - just seen your post ( hence the edit ).
The present in-flight sales system is supposedly going to be replaced with a computerised one. Indeed, from what I understand of it, this will begin to happen after this / '04 summer season has finished ( Nb. It'd be pandemonium to attempt to introduce it in the summer ). It is to be hoped that this new system will take a lot of the angst out what happens presently and will aid & abet speedy in-flight sales as well as improve the accuracy of pre-flight / post-flight stocktaking and reconciliation.
The other issue you mention can only be addressed by directing it through the relevant management channels – though I’ll admit that it could prove to be controversial.
This, in part, means that it is not directly associated with a 'vertically integrated' operation, e.g. such as, say, MyTravel, that might have travel agents in the High Streets, and an in-house airline to fly their passengers, and affiliated hotels in resorts, and resort reps, etc, veritably the rack’m high sell’m cheap type operations ( which I’ll admit is something of a product generalisation ).
Likewise AEU is not a scheduled service operator ( albeit AEU might supply seat capacity to a travel agent customer that is selling what amounts to scheduled service ).
Accordingly, AEU provides:
- Contracted seat capacity to the smaller 'independent / specialist travel companies' – where these companies are somewhat loath to fly their customers ( the passengers ) on a competitors airline and / or that their sales volume / bookings are such that they couldn’t fill the larger type of aircraft that’s typically in use with the vertically integrated carriers.
- Contracted seat capacity to the energy supply industry ( i.e. the folks searching / developing oil & gas fields ) in typically far flung / remote destinations. This is very much ‘thin route / small load’ stuff, but one which demands high levels of onboard service ( veritably business class ) - hence why AEU now use a B757 with IFE and only 186 seats @ 36” seat pitch for these flights.
- Contracted ‘thin-route’ capacity for the vertically integrated operations, i.e. the big holiday companies contract AEU to operate flights ( i.e. using 148 seat B737’s ) where it would not be economical to operate these trips using their own in-house ( typically much larger ) aircraft.
- Various ad-hoc charter requests – typically during the shoulder seasons and, again, where the loads tend to be light and / or specialised.
- AOC hosting - such as for Iceland Express where AEU supply (two) B737’s and pilots ( and IE supply their own Icelandic lovelies as cabin crew ).
I hope this helps to explain the whys and wherefores as to why you can’t procure a ticket direct from AEU.
Nb. You can see some the companies who contract with AEU by navigation the links under ‘Where we fly to’ menu item – where this is not a definitive listing.
green-eyedbabe - just seen your post ( hence the edit ).
The present in-flight sales system is supposedly going to be replaced with a computerised one. Indeed, from what I understand of it, this will begin to happen after this / '04 summer season has finished ( Nb. It'd be pandemonium to attempt to introduce it in the summer ). It is to be hoped that this new system will take a lot of the angst out what happens presently and will aid & abet speedy in-flight sales as well as improve the accuracy of pre-flight / post-flight stocktaking and reconciliation.
The other issue you mention can only be addressed by directing it through the relevant management channels – though I’ll admit that it could prove to be controversial.
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I can assure you that Puritan is not me. I know who it is and he does work for Astraeus and has been with the company since its launch, but he certainly isn't the Commercial Director! [Or any other director or manager for that matter.]
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There is no such thing as a perfect airline but What I don't want to hear is that safety is not good at Astraeus it is by far a very big priority and we didn't even touch on how to serve tea or coffee. We were far to busy learning about safety of the passengers. Forget the tea and coffee!!
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I believe you might be bitter about something, like I said I worked for Astraeus and aside a couple of things you can't say anything bad about them really, they do offer a good service and safety is A PRIORITY.. yes there are some lazy crew that put me off flying with them but most of the older staff (been there a while), do work hard and are so nice and helpful..
Leave Astraeus alone pat musturd, honestly they don't deserve to be sl**** off.
Leave Astraeus alone pat musturd, honestly they don't deserve to be sl**** off.
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Well most crew when joining there first airline think that it is the best one.
It is only when you live-with and start to know other crews from different airlines that you begin to question what you havent taught!!!
That is what I am saying.
It is only when you live-with and start to know other crews from different airlines that you begin to question what you havent taught!!!
That is what I am saying.
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patmustard, across a period of 19 years I, personally, have only worked for 4 different airlines - in all manner of roles – does that count as experience enough to be able to tell the difference between what’s good and what’s bad ?
Aside - might one ask how many airlines it is that you have worked for and longevity therein – though not in your capacity for pumping fuel into wings, but more so in your roll as either cabin crew, or maybe as a pilot, or maybe as an instructor of these people ? I only ask because I’m sure that many are curious as to your bonefide’s that seemingly enable you to make such fanciful statements;
In any event one gets the feeling that you’re really little more than a wind-up merchant, either that or bitter and twisted about something, as exhibited by the fact that when reasoned and factual responses are put forward you simply continue to rant and espouse absolute garbage; Uhm, maybe it’s someat’ to do with all those JetA fumes out on the ramp ?! – what do you reckon, Wayne ?
Cheers.
Ps. Jonathan thanks for confirming that you are not me – indeed, via a quick bit of mental dead reckoning, I would guess that when I was joining Air Europe ( at LGW ) in 1985, that you were soon to be moving from junior to high school – all of which suddenly makes me feel very old.
Aside - might one ask how many airlines it is that you have worked for and longevity therein – though not in your capacity for pumping fuel into wings, but more so in your roll as either cabin crew, or maybe as a pilot, or maybe as an instructor of these people ? I only ask because I’m sure that many are curious as to your bonefide’s that seemingly enable you to make such fanciful statements;
In any event one gets the feeling that you’re really little more than a wind-up merchant, either that or bitter and twisted about something, as exhibited by the fact that when reasoned and factual responses are put forward you simply continue to rant and espouse absolute garbage; Uhm, maybe it’s someat’ to do with all those JetA fumes out on the ramp ?! – what do you reckon, Wayne ?
Cheers.
Ps. Jonathan thanks for confirming that you are not me – indeed, via a quick bit of mental dead reckoning, I would guess that when I was joining Air Europe ( at LGW ) in 1985, that you were soon to be moving from junior to high school – all of which suddenly makes me feel very old.