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Old 19th Apr 2004, 16:49
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Lightbulb Carry-on Bmed!!!!!!

For those of you out there that have been slateing BMed how DARE you get it sooooooooooo wrong.

It's not BAD it's horrendous.....................................!!!!!


There are now scuff marks along the corridor carpet where crew are now dragging there heels before checking in at crew report!!!

MOANS & GROANS vairy from:-

300 crew sharing x3, 4" flat screens to check in in the "INTERNET CAFE" which includes a kettle,sink(with tap).

Briefing rooms with dimensions of 4ft X 6ft with a large table and 6 chairs which are often only filled by 4 bottoms!!!

A CCM who makes chucky look like a cabbage patch kid!!! - EXTREMELY un-professional - un-approchable - unliked - has more FAVORITES than the 15.30 at newmarket!!! - has an awful hairstyle and dress sence (looks like a red cross missionary worker) - drinks wine OUT OF THE BOTTLE at the company xmas party and not forgeting COMPLETLEY UNDER QUALIFIED.

you can take the GIRL out of AIRTOURS but you CANT take the AIRTOURS out of the GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and not forgetting, WHAT A BEAUTIFUL CUBIC ZIRCONIA she wears from Elizabeth dukes!!

Crew car parking - has now become a life and death roundabout crossing - you park your car - get your suitcase then play chicken to cross the roundabout over to the office, while our 10 - 3ers (really should be 09.00 - 17.00ers!!) - park in the carpark OUTSIDE the office (no roundabout involved) - toodle over carrying a tesco bag filled with cottage cheese and ryvitas crackers!!

we have 5 a/c x3 a320s and x2 a321s with 17 different location diagrams and we have another a321 joining this VERY LARGE fleet - which i should imagine will have a different varient to the other two cos the company is to CHEAP to standardise the a/c

A route network to die for!! the alternative beach fleet (Dead and caspian)

It is a shame that morale and company standards have dropped to an historic low - crew have repeatedly asked for CERTAIN THINGS!! to be looked into and senior management have seemed to ingnore this.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CAN YOU START TO TAKE NOTE OF YOUR CREW THIS COMPANY IS IN TURMOIL....................................
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I take it that you are unhappy with the airline.

Plenty of other airlines recruiting, why not join one?

....a positive attitude is usually what they look for when recruiting though

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Old 19th Apr 2004, 17:21
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Heard nothing good about this operation, and yet we've had some seniors move on from low-cost to Bmed.

We seem to have the same problem with regards to the location of safety eqpmt, every plane seems to have its own particular setup which raises the question of whether it's worth learning any of the 'standard' diagrams handed out during training!

Regarding the routes - well that's why Bmed exists, although I do sympathise. However, I wouldn't mind visiting Addis or Khartoum; yes, they're not exactly Dubai but nevertheless it would be an experience I would certainly enjoy!

What are the crew like? I've heard horror stories about certain airlines (Monarch springs to mind).
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Old 19th Apr 2004, 18:05
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So sorry to hear that there is so much negativity from certain people regarding B med. I fly long haul but not for bmed so I am not biased in any way. I know several people that fly for B med and they tell me that it is aviations best kept secret.
If crew think that things are really as bad as they say they are then leave because such red blood hate for something is not healthy. B med is very successful and it is down to the type of routes it serves and of course the great cabin crew that represent the airline. It is not fair to new entrants or to company orientated long serving crew to have to listen to fellow colleagues around them ruining their 'dream'. Negativity is very infectious and at the end of the day if it spreads it will only affect passenger perception and in turn that could/could not effect you receiving a pay-cheque or not!
Really don't mean to sound like I am preaching but the best piece of simple advice I was ever given when I first started flying was....If you are not happy....leave....its not fair on anyone else.
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Old 19th Apr 2004, 18:20
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just to let you know, my dream was ruined as soon as our new ccm got her feet under the desk!!!

as for lowering crew morale, let me assure you that all crew feel exactly the same, and we have an excellent rapport on the a/c.

Work standards on board the a/c however low we may feel, have never fell below standard, and our customers will always leave our a/c having received the most professional and polished service.

As for leaving, Why should I, I have spent many happy years with the company, surely this should be down to the company to erradicate any problems and improve crew morale...this is amajor problem that needs to be addressed immediatly, as many an exit meeting for our emigrating crew has stated..

All hope has not been lost with Bmed, and a few of us believe there to be light at the end of the tunnel....if only we could find the switch!!!!!
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Old 19th Apr 2004, 18:30
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So sorry that things are that bad for you. Just for the record I was not implying that you personally would be rubbing off on other crew but I am sure you will agree that sometimes people can be so negative that it brings us all down. I really hope that things get better for you but I would like to say the I would love to do some of the routes!! I guess all routes get boring though....there are only so many Antiguas you can do before the excitment begins to fade! Not that I am not grateful for my job of course. Keep smiling!
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Hi Guys, sorry for the thread drift but...

I've been a Bmed pax on a number of routes over the years, Yerevan, Amman and now Addis, I have to say their CC are excellent, OK, I'm a low rent pax and don't bother them but if there is a morale problem then it is certainly well masked.

I always enjoyed the Bmed trip until I got here, the 320 is a comfortable a/c but after 9 hours it does get cramped. Last time to LHR was a 12 hr horror via an unscheduled fuel stop at Rome due to headwinds. (I smoke...)

Anyone in party mood in Addis can PM me!

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BMED is nowhere near as bad as these whinging people are making out. Its a great little company with lots of great crew working for them. We have a great time when we are down-route and we all stick together. Had some of the best crew party's ever in Bmed!

Yes it has got a few minor problems but you tell me an airline that doesnt!

If you think you can find better then GO! Just leave the rest of us to enjoy our jobs. If it's so bad why are you still working for them. Think its time for you to grow up and move on and i wish you luck.

It's the odd few crew that dislike Bmed and they try to ruin it for the rest of us.

Well good luck to you all and for all you great Cabin Crew who know how to enjoy yourselves Bmed will soon be recruiting to replace these people that will hopefully soon be leaving!

Happy flying.
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Hey Pondskipper

Great to hear something good about the airline for once! I actually applied to them last summer but didn't even get invited for interview - I think it may have had something to do with the fact that at that point, I had no previous flying experience, and little in the way of customer service experience either.

I've now got just over 6 months under my belt with a well-known LCC - like yourself, I'm having an absolutely fantastic time, and we also have a fantastic set of crew (both up front and in the galley...) I'll probably stick around for a year or maybe even more, but I've always wanted to work for Bmed - mainly because I've always fancied nightstops in 'different' places.

Would you happen to know when Bmed will next be recruiting, and whether they prefer applicants with previous flying experience? I met an ex-Bmed girl on my training course, she had some amazing tales to tell!

regards
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Old 20th Apr 2004, 09:45
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"smell the coffee" be bmed are CONSTANTLY recruiting! now smell the coffee! says it all!

oh so many comments! yes, the crew are great, yes b med was aviations best kept secret, yes layovers are good, yes money not bad, yes you can have a good time down route. however, the minute you hit that office it stops! when departing for flight the mood lifts when on the bus and heading airside. likewise when coming back the mood drops!

It does not have to be like this! it never used to be! so why is LF the CCM so negative? so anti crew? (except her chosen few!)

it amazes me how she is still there. if crew are bad at their jobs they are out. get her out then you will see morale lift!

and by the way, yes the service is good on board but I for one do this for my own satisfaction. I would only be letting myself down.
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Old 20th Apr 2004, 12:30
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Hi Smell the coffee,

Bmed are recruiting alot lately as we have lost alot of crew to BA but we are not the only company that has, all airlines are losing crew to BA cause they are SEEN to be the best! And lets face it alot of crew see Bmed as a stepping stone to BA as we are there only long haul franchise.

We take on alot of crew that have no flying experience it doesnt seem to matter if you have flown before. Put your application in now you will have a great time.

Med123 hit the nail on the head with regards to everything being very good at Bmed however alot of crew dislike the management. But why should your morale drop when you go to the office? all you do is check in and check-out and you dont even have to see anyone in the office 90% of the time.

Checkin for your flight, have a great trip, check-out and go home to relax!

Enjoy yourself thats what its all about.
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Old 20th Apr 2004, 18:29
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Not just BA

BMED Crew are leaving to join various other Airlines not just BA. Some are even returning to there previous Lo Cost carriers realising that the grass is not greener on a BMed lawn.

Those that stay are those that know they cannot do any better Hello Mr Fat Controller!

Good pay? circa £1300 a month take home for Crew thats a below average salary in this day and age especially for the sh!t destinations you have to go to over and over again once is enough thank you.

You want to give Bmed a go well go on apply and if you fail the first time try again they will probaly take you on again especially if it is someone different doing the interviews. Just keep your options open whilst you are there and have something to fall back on and not a back stabbers knife.

Over and Out

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Old 20th Apr 2004, 18:33
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I would love to give them a go but with my 20+ years experience working for BOAC and a BA franchise they wont even acknowledge my cv.

The destinations are ok and can be fun at times.. be thankful for decent nightstops!!!
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Hello Boys and Girls,

I worked for BMED for 5 years and caught the tail end of the airline when it was one of this country's best companies to fly for. I came to the airline after having worked for a number of GOOD charter airlines.....so I certainly was not coming in with my eyes closed, so to speak. I also reached the dizzy heights of Purser...wooooohhh!!!

I have to say that when I left the company to fly for our country's flag carrier, BMED was not a nice establishment to work for. On my flight's at least, the crew always managed to give as good a service as they/we could, even though resources were somewhat limited. BMED is by no means all bad, but there are some truly awful people employed by them as "Managers"! Namely a truly horrible person from British Midland. He has no idea of how to speak to crew, pokes his not inconsiderable nose in where it is not required and is a generally arrogant all round condescending personality. He should never been in the position he is in. Infact I dont think I knew of any crew who liked him. I understand that LF ruffled a few feathers, however she was always nothing more than polite and professional with me. I suggest they deal with this other guy first.

As for people finding alternative employment? Dont you think that people would if they could? Anyone with any sense of the recruitment situation at the moment knows that finding another job does not happen over night. When I was at BMED the MAJORITY of the crew were not happy. I think that anyone who finds the office environment at BMED acceptable is not very sensitive to their surroundings , OR has no idea of what it is like to work for a decent company. Enough said.
And yes I have flown ALL of their destinations and done my fair share of THR, ADD (during the Ethiopian winter), BAK shuttles etc etc. I can assure you that ANU(Antigua) does become boring after a while....but at least its not some dark , depressing route you have to do .....unlike the hotel room in Yerevan in the midst of winter!!!! Yes done loads of those as well!!!!!
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This thread makes me sad

Do you lot know how many eager hopefuls there are out there that would give their right arm to do the job that you do!

Be glad you have a flying job, if you don't like it, give someone else the chance, someone that would be greateful to be in a priveliged positon, like yours!

You know moaners and groaners in this industry really get on my tits! Delays, changes, trips to weird destinations etc are all part os the job, if you don't like it then I think you need a change in career!

Regards

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Old 21st Apr 2004, 12:49
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Dear Mike,
You really have totally missed the point... in the industry that we are in...i completely understand that we will have delays, changes and other aviation hic-cups...my point here is how we are actually treated and informed of these problems...

Most airlines have some delay procedures and facilities for their crew, accept here you are expected to hang around the office for up to 9 hours, WITH NO FACILITIES!!

We are also aware that there will be changes to the roster - what we dont EXPECT is that you have a change to your roster 5 mins before you brief is due to start.......when you think that you are going to addis in our winter (there summer) so you have packed your shorts and t-shirts - then you arrive at the office and op's say tou you " oh just to let you know your now going to Tehran where the weather can be 1degree!!! -

The way we are TREATED is BELOW airline standards.................

I do love my job and enjoy the flying and i am GRATEFUL for having a job...........it would be nice to be treated with respect

As our company goals and missions say "our staff are OUR GREATEST ASSET"

WELL START TREATING US LIKE IT............................
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I appreciate that things can be bad at times, but you will soon find that if you voice your opinions and try to better a company, you will get no where fast!

I really would suggest trying another carrier, there are better airlines out there to work for.

I know it can be the most frustrating thing in the world(believe me) but you have to just accept it i'm afraid

Regards

Mike
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Unhappy Mike

I have worked for eight Airlines including Bmed.

I have worked on some mental contracts in far away places. I have worked for Cowboy Airlines and unstable owners.

But I can safely say that British Mediterranean Airways was by far the worst most unsophisticated, uncoordinated, moronic, bitchy, sly, crap and dangerous route going hideous one of my Career in aviation.

You want the chance to hold a privileged position with this so called airline then go for it they are always looking for more victims.


Tchus

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Old 21st Apr 2004, 21:14
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Unhappy

Some comments about bmed are justified and some are not. Its a bit of a shame that people should be so personal about individuals and practically use their names. Although its a forum, one should always try to put yourself in their position. Bmed have certainly taken a serious dive lately though and it true that morale is dreadfully low. This is due to some pretty unpopular decisions being made, of course by management, with little regard to loyal employees that have largely contributed to the good reputation they have in terms of GREAT CABIN CREW. Its a real shame and things need to change otherwise it will turn into the sort of airline that some of you already feel it is.
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I'd just like to thank all the contributors to this thread - it has had me wetting myself laughing for the last few days.

This is not meant to denigrate the upset felt by those there who are not happy by any means. Just that in general it has lightened my last few days.

cheers

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