Will Qf Hire From Short List
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Thnaks for the info Bodum..
Has anybody else heard anything around RE new ground schools starting this Jul/Aug?? My friend who flys short haul is undergoing training as a facilitator. She applied for this last year.. There must be somthing happening behind closed doors.. THE SUSPENSE is KILLING ME !! I assume no body else received a letter from QF saying thanks but no thanks !! chat soon??
Has anybody else heard anything around RE new ground schools starting this Jul/Aug?? My friend who flys short haul is undergoing training as a facilitator. She applied for this last year.. There must be somthing happening behind closed doors.. THE SUSPENSE is KILLING ME !! I assume no body else received a letter from QF saying thanks but no thanks !! chat soon??
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Hmm....
Now I've heard a lot of rumours over the last 17 months or so....
I have been reasonably reliably informed that yes, ground schools new financial year, but expect to undergo another interview, medical and security check.
Interesting times ahead......
Now I've heard a lot of rumours over the last 17 months or so....
I have been reasonably reliably informed that yes, ground schools new financial year, but expect to undergo another interview, medical and security check.
Interesting times ahead......
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Heard the same as you only the other day. Again, a reliable source.
Of course, anything could happen.
It's almost like a News Bulletin here, isn't it? ..."we'll have more news on that story as details come to hand..."
Heard the same as you only the other day. Again, a reliable source.
Of course, anything could happen.
It's almost like a News Bulletin here, isn't it? ..."we'll have more news on that story as details come to hand..."
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lol @ MSB2
I don't mind having more checks Cloud 9 - I mean my preference would just give me a job, but appreciate its been awhile (tongue definately in cheek here) so not opposed and besides if the checks happen in the next financial year I can claim them on tax anyway.....
I don't mind having more checks Cloud 9 - I mean my preference would just give me a job, but appreciate its been awhile (tongue definately in cheek here) so not opposed and besides if the checks happen in the next financial year I can claim them on tax anyway.....
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I have heard that Security will need to be done again as some aspects of the security clearance have changed since you guys went through in 2002, there is also a time limit from application to employment if a medical is required again and from memory I think this is 12 months.
Unfortunately, instead of waiting for a start date it may mean waiting to hear when your next interview is and than onto medical/security again. But I'm sure it will be all cool for you guys fingers crossed.
Unfortunately, instead of waiting for a start date it may mean waiting to hear when your next interview is and than onto medical/security again. But I'm sure it will be all cool for you guys fingers crossed.
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yay!
I've never been through any kind of airline interiew cattle call process.
You hear about those 'preperation courses'... are they good? I know its far from a garuntee... but, surely applicants who have not been "prepared" are sucsessful?
Airlines like to create 'profiles' that they like to fill when taking applications further, true? Can anyone (make an informed) guess as to what QF will be looking for this time? 2nd language speakers? Certain age range? x years experience in this or that? Men? Women? Very outgoing/outgoing/assertive personalities? Soft voices? Not too camp? These might sounds obscure... i just wanted to know your thoughts... even if youre not "in the know". Want to get more of an idea than what has been plastered in the QF FA employment page of their website for the past.. i don't know how long...
(eg high standards of grooming and presentation... experience... age, height, Snr 1st aid cert... blah blah and so on)
dunno if anyone else is interested in this.... am i off an a tangent?
p.s i love dizty's original posts re the JQ FA uniforms... if you havent seen it... go check it out for a good laugh:-P
ttyl ppl
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You hear about those 'preperation courses'... are they good? I know its far from a garuntee... but, surely applicants who have not been "prepared" are sucsessful?
Airlines like to create 'profiles' that they like to fill when taking applications further, true? Can anyone (make an informed) guess as to what QF will be looking for this time? 2nd language speakers? Certain age range? x years experience in this or that? Men? Women? Very outgoing/outgoing/assertive personalities? Soft voices? Not too camp? These might sounds obscure... i just wanted to know your thoughts... even if youre not "in the know". Want to get more of an idea than what has been plastered in the QF FA employment page of their website for the past.. i don't know how long...
(eg high standards of grooming and presentation... experience... age, height, Snr 1st aid cert... blah blah and so on)
dunno if anyone else is interested in this.... am i off an a tangent?
p.s i love dizty's original posts re the JQ FA uniforms... if you havent seen it... go check it out for a good laugh:-P
ttyl ppl
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Hi Peanut pusher.. Thast great news for external staff who could be offerd casuel and contract positions. I assume by this that maybe QF will not be offering any fulltime positions at all. Being internal looks as though from your comments that we then will not be offered anything as we can only be offered full time positions. Any further news on this. I to have been told that they will have new ground schools in JULY though not sure for what type of employmant ? anyone with any further info??
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Could someone please tell me if and when QF HR offers a position to a shortlister would they give you a choice of contract or casual or do they tell you that is what you have to do? Does anyone know?
Hope someone can offer a response. Thanks.
Hope someone can offer a response. Thanks.
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Interesting...
Thanks for that info PP. Any idea what bases?
I called HR yesterday in regards to my application, and asked what the future holds for us. I was told that at this moment in time, they had no further details at hand. In a round about way, I was told to not get my hopes up, as there was still strong possibility that us shortlisters may not get used. But I guess, nothing can be said incase it changes at the drop of a hat...
However, I like what PP has to say.
Anymore info is always appreciated.
I called HR yesterday in regards to my application, and asked what the future holds for us. I was told that at this moment in time, they had no further details at hand. In a round about way, I was told to not get my hopes up, as there was still strong possibility that us shortlisters may not get used. But I guess, nothing can be said incase it changes at the drop of a hat...
However, I like what PP has to say.
Anymore info is always appreciated.
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I wasnt given any choice and had to decide right there and than while HR was on the other end of the line and was told that if I didnt accept they couldnt guarantee that I would even be offered anything else. However I was offered permanent Melbourne and that was my issue, the base not the type of employment.
I wasnt given any choice and had to decide right there and than while HR was on the other end of the line and was told that if I didnt accept they couldnt guarantee that I would even be offered anything else. However I was offered permanent Melbourne and that was my issue, the base not the type of employment.
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Just how many crew are still on Leave Without Pay and Temporary Part Time? Sooner or later they'll start to come back to work - anyone have any idea on the numbers left to return in both divisions (if any)?
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In answear to Mr Seatback 2 questions as to how many crew are due back from unpaid leave. I do recal reading somthing last month and I think there were about 100 crew to return from Jul to september in long haul and a few from short haul. I cant recall the exact numbers for short haul. I hope this helps. Well its the 1st of May.. 27 days to go before we we hear somthing ... This will be the worst and longest 28 days...mmm Lets hope we get a call and get told somthing ......ANYTHING... I do however get nervouse with cloudnines coments about speaking to QF HR and giving him the impression not to hold his breath.. That is JUST NOT FAIR nor professional comming from QF speak to someone like that after they have been on hold for this amount of time.. I guess they can do whatever they like....CANT THEY?? If that is going to be the case we might as well ALL give upn now !!
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Whoa nelly!
HR are simply trying to cover their behinds, in case another SARS or Iraq type situation occurs between now and when they anticipate the training schools occurring. Sure they can do as they please, but with as many chances as they have had to get rid of us, do you not think they'd have done so by now?
After all, why go through all the trouble of saying to people there will be another selection process (followed, presumeably, by another medical and security check) if you weren't interested in the candidates on the list?
Anything can happen - which is why I think HR are probably being very grey with anyone who asks them for a black and white answer.
Found this in the Dunnunda and Godzone forum, under New QF International Services:
So things must be looking good. Remembering of course, how good they were looking 18 months ago when we were shortlisted - right before SARS and Iraq started...
HR are simply trying to cover their behinds, in case another SARS or Iraq type situation occurs between now and when they anticipate the training schools occurring. Sure they can do as they please, but with as many chances as they have had to get rid of us, do you not think they'd have done so by now?
After all, why go through all the trouble of saying to people there will be another selection process (followed, presumeably, by another medical and security check) if you weren't interested in the candidates on the list?
Anything can happen - which is why I think HR are probably being very grey with anyone who asks them for a black and white answer.
Found this in the Dunnunda and Godzone forum, under New QF International Services:
"New QF International Services
At a tourism seminar on the Gold Coast on Thursday, Mr John Borghetti from Qantas announced the following new services;
- Mumbai. 3 x nonstop 747 services from Sydney per week from September 04
- Shanghai. 3 x nonstop A330-300 services per week from sydney from december 04
-14 new weekly services to London within the next 24 months to take up additional slots. 3 x services to London via Hong Kong to being early 2005"
At a tourism seminar on the Gold Coast on Thursday, Mr John Borghetti from Qantas announced the following new services;
- Mumbai. 3 x nonstop 747 services from Sydney per week from September 04
- Shanghai. 3 x nonstop A330-300 services per week from sydney from december 04
-14 new weekly services to London within the next 24 months to take up additional slots. 3 x services to London via Hong Kong to being early 2005"
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Can anyone shed any light on what life as a QF casual is like? Would it be worth giving up a FT flying job for? How many hrs do you get? Do you earn enough to live off or do you have to have another job too?
What about the contracts? Anyone know how long they would be for? At what rate have contracts been renewed in the past?
Sorry for so many questions! I've just got a lot of thinking/evaluating to do if I get offered either of these options from the list!
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What about the contracts? Anyone know how long they would be for? At what rate have contracts been renewed in the past?
Sorry for so many questions! I've just got a lot of thinking/evaluating to do if I get offered either of these options from the list!
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Oh and news just to hand from the IASC website (www.iasc.gov.au)...
Having read the report from the IASC, Qantas needs to take up at least 3 of these 4 services by 30 November 2004. The remaining 1 can be taken up after this date, whilst the other 3 slots (being contested with Backpackers Xpress) await determination from the IASC.
"Qantas has applied for an allocation of capacity on the United Kingdom route - advertised on 23 February 2004 - Qantas application ( 65 KB Note: requires Acrobat Reader Version 5 or later) - Closing date for notice of intention to submit an application is COB 1 March 2004
Qantas currently operates 21 services per week between Australia and London via Singapore and Bangkok. Qantas is now seeking an allocation of an additional seven services per week in order to expand its operations to 28 services per week. As with the India application above this is the full allocation available to Australian carriers.
Qantas plans to operate an additional three services from November 2004 and the remaining four would be added over the 12 months to November 2005.
Qantas is seeking permission to price and market its services, and share/pool revenues/profits on the route, with British Airways as long as such practices are authorised under the Trade Practices Act 1974 or otherwise authorised by the Australian Competition Tribunal, in event of review by that Tribunal.
Update:
On 27 February Backpacker Xpress notified an intention to apply for capacity on the United Kingdom route - applications close at COB 24 March 2004. Backpackers Xpress has now submitted competing applications on the route. Backpacker Xpress application on United Kingdom route ( 350 KB)
On the UK route Backpackers Xpress has applied for three services a week and Qantas for the 7 seven services per week that are available.
The Commission is now calling for submissions about the applications from both Qantas and Backpackers Xpress. The closing date for notice of intention to submit is COB 6 April 2004.
On 1 April 2004 the Commission allocated the 4 uncontested services to Qantas."
Qantas currently operates 21 services per week between Australia and London via Singapore and Bangkok. Qantas is now seeking an allocation of an additional seven services per week in order to expand its operations to 28 services per week. As with the India application above this is the full allocation available to Australian carriers.
Qantas plans to operate an additional three services from November 2004 and the remaining four would be added over the 12 months to November 2005.
Qantas is seeking permission to price and market its services, and share/pool revenues/profits on the route, with British Airways as long as such practices are authorised under the Trade Practices Act 1974 or otherwise authorised by the Australian Competition Tribunal, in event of review by that Tribunal.
Update:
On 27 February Backpacker Xpress notified an intention to apply for capacity on the United Kingdom route - applications close at COB 24 March 2004. Backpackers Xpress has now submitted competing applications on the route. Backpacker Xpress application on United Kingdom route ( 350 KB)
On the UK route Backpackers Xpress has applied for three services a week and Qantas for the 7 seven services per week that are available.
The Commission is now calling for submissions about the applications from both Qantas and Backpackers Xpress. The closing date for notice of intention to submit is COB 6 April 2004.
On 1 April 2004 the Commission allocated the 4 uncontested services to Qantas."
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I don't have any positive or any news for you all, all I want to say is I hope you all get some good news from them soon.
You have all been in limbo for so long and it sounds like you are all going to make great FAs for Qantas or any other Airline.
Good luck everyone
You have all been in limbo for so long and it sounds like you are all going to make great FAs for Qantas or any other Airline.
Good luck everyone
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Hey Cart Tart
Can't comment on casuals, but historically at least, contract conditions have been as follows (info provided from friends who were contractors in the past for Long Haul):
a) Pay and conditions as per Long Haul Agreement
b) Length of contract not to exceed 12 months. Normally 11 month contract applies.
c) Contract cannot be extended beyond this time - choice by Qantas to either make you permanent or finish the term of contract (and that's that!)
Long Haul have another round of EBA negotiations later this year. Presumeably the issue of offshore labour will rear it's ugly head again (ie. an increase of the current 370 cap). How this will affect our employment (if at all) remains to be seen. Furthermore, QF may seek an extension on the length of time someone spends on a contract.
Who knows what's planned...I just hope we all get what we want! ;->
Can't comment on casuals, but historically at least, contract conditions have been as follows (info provided from friends who were contractors in the past for Long Haul):
a) Pay and conditions as per Long Haul Agreement
b) Length of contract not to exceed 12 months. Normally 11 month contract applies.
c) Contract cannot be extended beyond this time - choice by Qantas to either make you permanent or finish the term of contract (and that's that!)
Long Haul have another round of EBA negotiations later this year. Presumeably the issue of offshore labour will rear it's ugly head again (ie. an increase of the current 370 cap). How this will affect our employment (if at all) remains to be seen. Furthermore, QF may seek an extension on the length of time someone spends on a contract.
Who knows what's planned...I just hope we all get what we want! ;->