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Nah, I haven't heard anything either..... Thought that there might be something in the email box, but have arrived home and found zip....
I must admit I'm not that surprised - I had an inkling we wouldn't hear anything today - I suspect next week we'll be contacted one way or another.....
I must admit I'm not that surprised - I had an inkling we wouldn't hear anything today - I suspect next week we'll be contacted one way or another.....
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How funny for those poor Impulse people (im assuming the 8 would be original Impulse). Another uniform and even more aircraft to study not to mention service training.
Great to see Jetstar are also coming does that mean you and Ditzyboy will be over here soon?
As we know career progression is only activated when external permanent recruitment occurs, does that mean it has or will be anyone know? Maybe the shortlisters will be contacted about permanent short haul positions. Or is QF finally realising how stupid that clause is in the progression document.
How funny for those poor Impulse people (im assuming the 8 would be original Impulse). Another uniform and even more aircraft to study not to mention service training.
Great to see Jetstar are also coming does that mean you and Ditzyboy will be over here soon?
As we know career progression is only activated when external permanent recruitment occurs, does that mean it has or will be anyone know? Maybe the shortlisters will be contacted about permanent short haul positions. Or is QF finally realising how stupid that clause is in the progression document.
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Good news for Jetstar/Sunstate/Eastern Crew - FAAA update just issued today !
Short Haul Permanent Recruitment/Career Progression
We are pleased to advise that on 28 May, 2004 your Association reached agreement with Qantas to allow permanent positions in the Short Haul Division to be offered to current regional flight attendants.
The number of positions will be as follows:
Eastern Australia 15
Sunstate Airlines 9
Please note that the bases to be offered is still to be determined by Qantas.
The timing of the offers is also still to be determined between the relevant airlines.
As further details become available, members wil be updated accordingly.
Short Haul Permanent Recruitment/Career Progression
We are pleased to advise that on 28 May, 2004 your Association reached agreement with Qantas to allow permanent positions in the Short Haul Division to be offered to current regional flight attendants.
The number of positions will be as follows:
Eastern Australia 15
Sunstate Airlines 9
Please note that the bases to be offered is still to be determined by Qantas.
The timing of the offers is also still to be determined between the relevant airlines.
As further details become available, members wil be updated accordingly.
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Galley Hag, maybe the media shake up has made QF think again. If what you say is part of the EBA re progression and external recruitment, do you think they maybe about to ask shortlists to be permanant? Could this be causing the delay? What's your gut feeling ?
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Right now GalleyHag, I don't think our 8 progressee's to Short Haul would mind AT ALL about changing uniforms and learning more aircraft.
Our more senior crew (those that have been around from the start - like these 8) are not too happy about the Jetstar thing. Not because of anything particular, but they see it as going 'backwards' from what they were offering until last week.
These are the guys who want to give away free food, drinks, have legroom, allocated seating, etc. Because they've already DONE the low cost thing before, I think it's fair to say they're over it and want to go back to the 'full service' aspect of flying. Which I can understand.
Ditz will transfer ahead of me - he's WAY senior girlfriend!!
I'll be down the list for some time - but I'm happy. This whole low cost thing is new to me, so I'll go with it for now!
Remains to be seen who will go across, particularly our SEQ crew, who will do anything to stay in QLD.
Our more senior crew (those that have been around from the start - like these 8) are not too happy about the Jetstar thing. Not because of anything particular, but they see it as going 'backwards' from what they were offering until last week.
These are the guys who want to give away free food, drinks, have legroom, allocated seating, etc. Because they've already DONE the low cost thing before, I think it's fair to say they're over it and want to go back to the 'full service' aspect of flying. Which I can understand.
Ditz will transfer ahead of me - he's WAY senior girlfriend!!
I'll be down the list for some time - but I'm happy. This whole low cost thing is new to me, so I'll go with it for now!Remains to be seen who will go across, particularly our SEQ crew, who will do anything to stay in QLD.
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Hi all !! good to hear from you Mr Seatback 2 !! So what does the latest news mean to everybody ! More so to the curent crew that have applied as externals but work for sunstate jetstar and eastern?? Has anybody got any idea !! Plus now with this happening does anyone have any idea with what might happen with the internals s the externals look as they might be going to long haul 10 month contracts ! ANy thoughs??
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When??
I wonder when we will hear ANYTHING?? Especially after the calls last week......
Have heard both positive and negative ideas from those in the know on the whole 10 month thing.....maybe there is a reason they are making us wait - could go either way i suppose!
Anyway guys, we are nearly there one way or another......what a ride it has been!
Good luck ppl!
Oz xox
Have heard both positive and negative ideas from those in the know on the whole 10 month thing.....maybe there is a reason they are making us wait - could go either way i suppose!
Anyway guys, we are nearly there one way or another......what a ride it has been!
Good luck ppl!
Oz xox
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Regional prgression has always been based on permanent external recruitment. However, recently Qantas took regionals into the Perth short haul base when there was no permanent recruitment therefore maybe the precedent has been set. No one is aware of any permanent positions being offered to external applicants off the short list but regional progression has been confirmed maybe this is the way of the future if you want a permanent position with Qantas short haul.
Mr Seatback 2
I highly doubt Jetstar crew will get a QLD base being Brisbane. QF Skywalker maybe able to confirm this but the Sunstate girls and boys have never been offered Brisbane it has always been Melbourne until recently where Perth was offered for the first time. But you never know. But the last time I looked at the transfer list there is a lot of current crew based in Sydney and Melbourne that are trying to get a Brisbane base so they have to slot in after these people after they complete ground school. I dont know how long the Sunstate crew have had to wait in the past before getting back to Brisbane.
Regional prgression has always been based on permanent external recruitment. However, recently Qantas took regionals into the Perth short haul base when there was no permanent recruitment therefore maybe the precedent has been set. No one is aware of any permanent positions being offered to external applicants off the short list but regional progression has been confirmed maybe this is the way of the future if you want a permanent position with Qantas short haul.
Mr Seatback 2
I highly doubt Jetstar crew will get a QLD base being Brisbane. QF Skywalker maybe able to confirm this but the Sunstate girls and boys have never been offered Brisbane it has always been Melbourne until recently where Perth was offered for the first time. But you never know. But the last time I looked at the transfer list there is a lot of current crew based in Sydney and Melbourne that are trying to get a Brisbane base so they have to slot in after these people after they complete ground school. I dont know how long the Sunstate crew have had to wait in the past before getting back to Brisbane.
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You're right GalleyHag...me thinks there will only be a handful of eligible crew who from QLD who would take up Progression, given the UNLIKELIHOOD of ever getting a BNE base.
As you mentioned, Sunnies crew have had to do without for a while re: Brissy base. Ours may well consider their options and see what becomes available to them.
But - with QF - you never know do you?!
As you mentioned, Sunnies crew have had to do without for a while re: Brissy base. Ours may well consider their options and see what becomes available to them.
But - with QF - you never know do you?!
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Well, I called QF HR today as I wanted to know where I was heading. The lady was friendly but unable to help with any information on our futures. She reconfirmed it was just an expression of interest re: the telephone call regarding 10 months contract. I asked about the expiry date and what will happen to us. She replied that QF management have not made any decisions and that shortlisters will still be considered at this stage.
What is happening?
It seems a tail spin has been created with the leak of the document re London base.
I still hold hope. Time will only tell. I guess I wasn't told any negative news.
What is happening?
It seems a tail spin has been created with the leak of the document re London base.
I still hold hope. Time will only tell. I guess I wasn't told any negative news.
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Galley Hag..
The 6 regional crew who transferred over to Perth were actually linked to external recruitment that took place for the opening of Perth Base on April 1 2003. Their transfers should have been actioned at the same time, however they were not actioned until a year later in April 2004!
The regional transfer school prior to this one that started FEB 2003 based in Melbourne, should have also started earlier in 2002, when Qantas recruited externally on a permanent basis in 2002.
The current transfer schools still seem to be running about a year behind where they should be.
Why this is, I dont know
Hope this helps
The 6 regional crew who transferred over to Perth were actually linked to external recruitment that took place for the opening of Perth Base on April 1 2003. Their transfers should have been actioned at the same time, however they were not actioned until a year later in April 2004!
The regional transfer school prior to this one that started FEB 2003 based in Melbourne, should have also started earlier in 2002, when Qantas recruited externally on a permanent basis in 2002.
The current transfer schools still seem to be running about a year behind where they should be.
Why this is, I dont know
Hope this helps
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No News Is GOOD NEW !! Or is IT??
Well Monday has past !! With no Email of further extensions and no mail to say thanks but no thanks ! Lets keep focused on the prize and be positive !! Like always through out my posts I said had they wanted us of the list they could have sent us a letter already to say GOODBY !! Lets hang in there and keep positive !!!
How is everybody feeling??? Take and chat soon !!
How is everybody feeling??? Take and chat soon !!
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Rather than start a new thread this ad appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald on Saturday 29/5/04.
Sydney, NSW Full Time
Flight Attendants
QantasLink, operating as Eastern Australia Airlines is a wholly owned subsidiary of Qantas and operates a fleet of modern Dash-8 aircraft on scheduled services throughout South-Eastern Australia. We are currently recruiting Flight Attendants to join our dynamic team based in Sydney. If you have a proven track record of providing exceptional customer service and possess the communication and interpersonal skills to deal with a varied range of customer needs in a professional and friendly manner, please go the Eastern Australia Airlines section of www.cabincrew.staffcv.com and apply. We only accept on-line applications.
Reference No: 153969 Sector: Logistics, Transport & Supply
Date posted: Saturday, 29/05/2004 Sub-Sector: Transport
Sydney, NSW Full Time
Flight Attendants
QantasLink, operating as Eastern Australia Airlines is a wholly owned subsidiary of Qantas and operates a fleet of modern Dash-8 aircraft on scheduled services throughout South-Eastern Australia. We are currently recruiting Flight Attendants to join our dynamic team based in Sydney. If you have a proven track record of providing exceptional customer service and possess the communication and interpersonal skills to deal with a varied range of customer needs in a professional and friendly manner, please go the Eastern Australia Airlines section of www.cabincrew.staffcv.com and apply. We only accept on-line applications.
Reference No: 153969 Sector: Logistics, Transport & Supply
Date posted: Saturday, 29/05/2004 Sub-Sector: Transport
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Nearly choked when I read the line "fleet of modern Dash-8 aircraft" !!!!!!!!!! *cough splutter*
Huge recruitment happening at Eastern, to cover progression as well as delivery of another 300 series aircraft.
SG
Huge recruitment happening at Eastern, to cover progression as well as delivery of another 300 series aircraft.
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Interesting.....
Well, into June and nothing.....I guess the waiting could be due to the whole o/s basing thing - sounds like no firm decision made on that.....yet! Very intersting also to see the ad for Eastern - expecting some movement there by the looks of it - lets hope it is because they are progressing regionals due to permanent external recruitment!!
Have a look a Wirraway's post in D&G reporting points - 2 interesting articles relating to the o/s base.......maybe we'll know more after the meeting Geoff is having today......
Still keeping everything possible crossed for all of us guys!
Oz xox
Have a look a Wirraway's post in D&G reporting points - 2 interesting articles relating to the o/s base.......maybe we'll know more after the meeting Geoff is having today......
Still keeping everything possible crossed for all of us guys!
Oz xox
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Tuesday over !
Well Tuesday is gone !! Still no news !! No email no letter no phone call !! I would hope something will happen this week !!
I have heard the regionals are getting trained in the next couple of weeks!! Also 50 long haul crew being transferd to short haul !!
I wonder when they will tell us when we start ????? Are all the externals going to the MAM assesmant days in Syd and Mel !!
Well Time is ticking and If your external and have nothing to loose by being casuel why not do !! Has there been any other news around the network?? LIKE ANY NEWS???
I have heard the regionals are getting trained in the next couple of weeks!! Also 50 long haul crew being transferd to short haul !!
I wonder when they will tell us when we start ????? Are all the externals going to the MAM assesmant days in Syd and Mel !!
Well Time is ticking and If your external and have nothing to loose by being casuel why not do !! Has there been any other news around the network?? LIKE ANY NEWS???
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Whats HAPPEND??
Its Thursday night and I havent had a chance to look at tje new postings !! I cant understand why we havent HEARD ANYTHING ...
From the sound of it I thought QF where planning a big recruitment drive..Well I guess I was wrong..They (qf)seem to be doing a big MAM drive !! Has anybody heard like ..anything?? I cant belive there has been no goss or news of any type..I am wondering by not hearing ANYTHING if this is good or bad news!! We havent got any letters so one can assume that we still must be in a good position of hearing somthing??? LEt hope to get a call at least before the weekend!! HAng in there guys!!
From the sound of it I thought QF where planning a big recruitment drive..Well I guess I was wrong..They (qf)seem to be doing a big MAM drive !! Has anybody heard like ..anything?? I cant belive there has been no goss or news of any type..I am wondering by not hearing ANYTHING if this is good or bad news!! We havent got any letters so one can assume that we still must be in a good position of hearing somthing??? LEt hope to get a call at least before the weekend!! HAng in there guys!!