thanks marley , you wrote that emirates is back in australia, i will check them out :)

elrehab - which airline did you start at? PM it to me if you don't want to say on the forum.

You should know that almost every one of the 6 airlines I have worked for require you to know word for word commands and/or drills or some kind. For 6 weeks you give your life to study, study and more study. Once you've passed and online things fall into place.

Flight Attendants are there for safety. Service comes second so don't expect to spend much time on service training at the majority of airlines.

I know some of you are annoyed right now, but seriously if it's something you really want to do you just have to keep trying. I don't know many people who got in on their first try. I can tell you I was stuffed around by Qantas for over a YEAR before they said 'no', got no further than the application stage the first time I applied for Virgin, and then eventually got in. About 3 years all up! Not saying it's "right" or "fair" but it is what it is, so either enjoy the ride or get off. As far as training is concerned not everyone gets through. It's hard! I have a degree, and found the sheer volume of information rammed down your throat really hard to take. But if you study your guts out you'll get there. As far as dealing with trainers you may not get along with, you need to deal with them the same way you would with a passenger on the aircraft... keep smiling and keep your true feelings to yourself! If you can't do that during training, maybe you'll have trouble on the aircraft... and trust me you'll have many days dealing with people who are just plain nasty to you. Sorry for the rant, but it just saddens me to see people getting so negative about the whole thing. If you really want it, and have the personality for it, you'll get there eventually :)

Shortfinal737
You have some valid points & I never meant to open the flood gates to the negative natter but it seems a few of us are just a bit annoyed!! But it is what it is & we cannot change the process and your right if we really want this then we must be willing to take the good with the bad! In my case I don't think virgin got my e-mail apologizing so I may be black listed for a no-show on the AD? Cause I have what it takes (have worked with 2 different company's) to be great in the role. Your correct with the training & trainers it's really tough & you got to suck it up & go with it. I do apologize to all for my negativity - I just really want to work as a cc again & thought I'd at least get a chance like many of us. Oh well I must stop & be grateful that I have had opportunities to experience life in the role and in this case it's just not my time to work for virgin & really not sure I'm going to try again?? But for all of the others - don't give up it is really a Great job - tough in the beginning as its all new & can be overwhelming but you get through it and then it will become a truly awesome job that you'll enjoy and love

I am going to try again, they will get the hint that I want to work for them if they keep seeing my application. Never know third time lucky. It's something that I want and I always get what I want because I make it happen, by sheer guts and determination. I will be flying for them.

Awesome attitude Marly
Guess in a way we make our own destiny & the best things are often those things we have had to fight to get!! In my case I think I need to wait until July cause that was 12mths since I first applied (reakon the email was not read til after the AD & I was put down as a no-show) think i will mention that when I next apply - just weird I did the on- line tests etc passed them both & as always do the right thing by pulling out as I was in the process with another airline and now I don't even get past the First round??? Boy have I pissed them off :rolleyes: lol. Oh well maybe next time 3rd times a charm :)
Time to let it go & see where I end up - may see you in ground school sometime this year hehe

shelbs i dont think u were black listed..remember its the airline business, you're just a number and they get thousands of applications.. and dont mention it when u apply, you would do yourself a bad favour. ! i have to wait till about june to apply with virgin as i made it through the final interview last time...though stuffed it up coz i didnt appear confident.

all in all from my year of getting into the airline industry, applied for emirates, got an invitation for an interview, missed it coz i didnt want to work overseas, then i started off with this airline i wont mention, . my training was put on hold for months. in the process i applied for virgin, made it to the final interview. not successful. the next thing i did was apply for jetstar, made it to group interviews, but not to the final. then the airlines who's name i wont mention contacted me for training school. started training school, And as a few days ago my, i was literally terminated from that...alll in all, a pretty s****y year, unfortunate year but hey, i've learnt a lot, been burned, been fatigued, cried, but i'll try to make a come back or maybe its not for me,,,,i guess i will have to see

Too true, and guys I don't think we should be worrying about ground school should we get the chance.... It is a little but of hard work for a long term gain of a great career. And so what if the trainers are harsh, you probably won't see them much after completion anyway. It's the people you will WORK with for the rest of your working life that should make all the difference :) It is no different to any other industry, what goes around will always come around. So as long as we are friendly, don't share TOO much and only talk to people's faces, we will be okay. It's just the general rule of people skills I think, which we use everywhere. Good luck to everyone, love the determination! :ok:

Hi Emma-Loo,

There is another AD on the 12th of Jan, so i would say next GS would be late Jan, early Feb?

resume and coverling letter
 

Is there anybody out there that is currently working for VA ?

I was wondering if someone could look over my resume and coverling letter and the answers that I am putting on the application, there must be something there that is stopping me getting past the application and not progressing?

It would be truly appriceiated as I really want to work for Virgin

:ok:

ATEL76....
 

Thanks ATEL76

I'm still hoping that I will have contact soon but still have not heard a peep from Virgin. They did tell me back in November at my assessment day that they would be holding another groundschool around January time. I thought my references would have been contacted at least by now though.

All I can now think of is that they are waiting till they have the hopefuls from the 12th Jan AD and then will contact all references for this next groundschool for Perth (20th/21st Dec and any November ones too?)

;)

Hey Marly
You could try a different approach? I have an idea that could work but nothing to lose! If you go on the Virgin career page it has expression of interest & it says you can apply for whatever position - what if you register there or if you look at the cabin crew section & the job description there is a tab called refer somebody or something like that - you could get a manager or somebody similar to fill the form in and recommend you?? I am hoping to get a job with Skywest on the ground but if that fails - this is the path I'm going to take. Not sure how helpful this info is....You sound like you so want this hense why last time I didn't attend the AD was to let somebody like you who really wanted it take my spot! I find it amusing now - I was good enough 6 months ago & now won't even get a look in!!! I really hope you get an invite next time around ;) fingers crossed for you ;)

Hi Emma-Loo
I have just graduated in the Nov 17 group... Apparently the new group is starting in a couple of weeks time... Which email address do you have for recruitment?
V.

Marly,

PER are currently looking for a huge number of staff.

It is a new base and is expanding very quickly...

Don't be worried... If you are suited to the role, you will become part of the group.

V.

Elrehab,

My DJ GS was 8 weeks.

I have read your comments and I know that you will not like mine.

You assume that your trainers are there to make your life miserable. They are. How else is the airline going to desensitise you to the pressures put onto you by guests? How about commands? Sweetheart, you will have to evacuate an aircraft in 90 seconds... Those commands have been proven to be the most effective.

Sleep... I'm sorry, but do you realise that CC are required to be fully attentive whenever on duty? Everytime you are on duty, you are an actress... If your trainers feel you can't stand the heat, you're out. Plain and simple.

Sorry to be so harsh, but if you understand the industry, you won't have any issues.

V.

Hi, don't know if anyone can help. Had my AD in december, was contacted before christmas to say i was successful with the interviews but had to complete some online assesment which was all done before christmas. Then I was asked if I could dtart on 30th Jan which was all good, just needed to give 3 weeks notice to employer which is today. As to now I have not had any further correspondance regarding medical reference checks etc, anyone know whats going on

citiboi83 8 weeks Ground school, is different to me having to learn a whole airline manual in 3 weeks. 8 weeks is bliss. theres a big difference between 8 weeks, verses what i had. fair enough about commands, but learning them in a day without any practical experience is a hard task.

as i'd like to say i dont know what other airlines ground school is like, but mine was all theory based , no practical experiences...only 3 hours to see inside of a plane and having to know it all.

Citiboi83

Thanks for the insight into Perth Base I hope they are recruiting really soon, I really want to work for them. Hopefully my next application will be the winner have totally pulled apart my resume and kept it simple and plain, (boy does it look boring) (no colour I mean) . Never know third time lucky.

I think I could handle ground school and the shifts when flying - already do horror shift now, late/early still kills, no matter how many times you do them. Don't let me start on night shift. But as you said in another reply you are an actress and you just have to suck it up on get on with the job no matter how tired you are. I work in a private hospital and they are also into making money, so our nursing care has to be different and hospitality comes into it a big way (not like public system). The big smiles and if there is anything I can get you let me know. And boy do they let you know (can you reach that glass of water over to me, my pillow is lumpy, these sheets are itchy and so on and so on.

I am look forward to a change and to do something different in customer service would be great and hay the added bonus of flying everwhere even better. :ok:

hey guys! i can understand its really frustrating to not get told but just hang in there and one day you will get your call =)

i went through the same thing and believe me it drove me crazy! i was constantly checking my emails every half hour, even one time i used my work phone to call my mobile to make sure it was working ok!

in the end i got my golden call and will be training with Qantas (MAM) in a few weeks! i tried all the major airlines.. jetstar (got to final interview), virgin (like many of youse, never heard a word from them), emirates (went to open day, didnt get call for an interview) and then Qantas.

Shelbs - it can be frustrating not hearing from them for AD, its just too bad you turned down the last one but im sure they're just overwhelmed with applications, i don't think they blacklisted you or anything. Remember getting to AD is great but once you get to AD there are about 60 applicants there and they cut it down to about 15-20.. getting to that is the hard part!

i never thought i was able to make it through.. im shorter than the minimum height, my complexion is not the clearest, and i don't think im the prettiest girl. but it was my attitude, personality and experience that got me through it. Just remember to keep your head up high and don't think about the negative thoughts.. keep trying and one day they'll see how determined you are and will contact you.. venting out on here wont do anything.

i see that there are a lot of perth people on here. try the new airline airaustralia.com they're desperately looking for cabin crew for perth base (immediate start as stated on their website) its not a major airline and doesnt fly to many destinations, but it'll get your foot in the door atleast... you gotta start somewhere!

good luck to everyone!

and just remember... if you do ever make it to AD.. don't ever say 'cos im a people person and i love to fly' when they ask you why you want to be CC haha

if anyone has any questions (about AD, final interviews, medicals etc) then feel free to ask me =)

Virgin Australia - Mel base
 

has anyone heard anything for Melbourne Base i applied ed of november? still nothing? anyone know when they will roughly contacting people? or how many training groups they will be doing for melb?