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No offers have been made yet!
As far as I know there have been no offers made yet.......
They are still waiting for the final interviews to take place during May.
Most people have had their references checked (maybe your friend YONLY?) but have not been asked to do the medicals yet..
Anyone else know more???
How did you go yesterday VOZZ?
Heard anything Jimmyroo?
They are still waiting for the final interviews to take place during May.
Most people have had their references checked (maybe your friend YONLY?) but have not been asked to do the medicals yet..
Anyone else know more???
How did you go yesterday VOZZ?
Heard anything Jimmyroo?
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I have a feeling people will be contacted soon for medicals as I know the first round of people have had all their references checked.
Has anyone been to a V Australia medical?
Has anyone been to a V Australia medical?
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Would it be possible to commute?
They interviewed in Melbourne, Brisbane ect.....and during the interview they ask if you would be prepared to move to Sydney....
Do you think it would be possible to commute from Melbourne?
Do you think it would be possible to commute from Melbourne?
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They said during some of the Tech crew interviews they fully expect that most will commute and not live in Sydney......I though they were referring to everyone. It seems you get full staff travel (incl DJ etc...)after 3 months porbabtion.
So it seems one could commute, if you did want to
So it seems one could commute, if you did want to
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With the current timings of the departures from SYD it would be absolutely possible to commute...for Cabin Crew though the information given internally was that call out time if you're on reserve is 1.5 hours - which makes commuting impossible unless you went down for the day you were on reserve... More thoughts on this whole commuting thing would be great!...would be great to get an official word from someone at V as to if they think it's going to be possible...
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Djccguy
Hi DJCCGUY
Just curious to find out if you would take the positon with V, being internal? Are many internals still interested after finding out about the salary? Have you heard any more info/updates on the conditions they are going to offer? Is there any possibility for you to transfer back to VB after a given amount of time? Have you been told of a possible start date for training and which state?
What are your thoughts?
Just curious to find out if you would take the positon with V, being internal? Are many internals still interested after finding out about the salary? Have you heard any more info/updates on the conditions they are going to offer? Is there any possibility for you to transfer back to VB after a given amount of time? Have you been told of a possible start date for training and which state?
What are your thoughts?
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Hey there,
Internally we have had no official word on conditions and pay, except that pay will probably be similar to what we are currently on now...
I personally would accept a position providing the pay wasn't too much different to current DJ pay...You would most probably be able to apply to transfer back to DJ after 9 months of service as per current policy...
Internally we have had no official word on conditions and pay, except that pay will probably be similar to what we are currently on now...
I personally would accept a position providing the pay wasn't too much different to current DJ pay...You would most probably be able to apply to transfer back to DJ after 9 months of service as per current policy...
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Hey thanks for getting back to me. Do you know when the first training school is and where? and did they indicate which month they would release an actual date for the pay and conditons?
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Thanks for the info guys!
Thanks for the info guys
Capt CoCo......good news about the 3 month probation!!
DJCCGUY........1.5 hour reserve (I like the idea of commuting and then going on reserve for the day)
Galaxy girl.....I've heard that training would take place in August through to September...cabin crew training will go for 6 or 7 weeks...it will be held in Sydney and some classes will be in Brisbane (for start up period only)...for crew members who complete training before the start date they will be able to work in marketing, uniforms , sales etc...
Capt CoCo......good news about the 3 month probation!!
DJCCGUY........1.5 hour reserve (I like the idea of commuting and then going on reserve for the day)
Galaxy girl.....I've heard that training would take place in August through to September...cabin crew training will go for 6 or 7 weeks...it will be held in Sydney and some classes will be in Brisbane (for start up period only)...for crew members who complete training before the start date they will be able to work in marketing, uniforms , sales etc...
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In regards to accommodation in Sydney, if you rent in the SHIRE (South of Sydney- 20 min drive from the airport), you will find it is cheaper than inner city, eastern and northern suburbs living.
Thats really interesting about those destinations you read about, very exciting if it is to happen.
Just a question, would you rather work for V or QCCA if you had the choice of both?
Thats really interesting about those destinations you read about, very exciting if it is to happen.
Just a question, would you rather work for V or QCCA if you had the choice of both?
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Downturn for VB
If you are applying for both V Australia and QCCA consider your options carefully! VB is not faring too well with this fuel price. QF might be the more stable option...
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Rescheduled
Aw thanks for remembering that i went...but i didnt. Unfortunately im an inflight trainer and got called out last minute 
BUT V Aus was very accommodating and have booked me into the next Bne Assessment day on Aug 5th so i will keep you posted 
BUT V Aus was very accommodating and have booked me into the next Bne Assessment day on Aug 5th so i will keep you posted
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I don't know about that Yonly. Yes QANTAS are established longer but their fuel hedging won't protect them so much in a few months and it's really going to bite. They have a lot of big, heavy, fuel guzzling infrastructure in the skies. It's expensive to fly half-empty planes around the place.
I'm not pretending that VB won't be affected, it will. But I'm confident that both airlines have business plans in place to accomodate a rise in fuel prices. Anyone with eyeballs could see that the price of oil was always going to increase.
And don't believe everything in the news. It's exaggerated with the worst possible spin on it. That's how they sell newspapers and get ratings, you know.
Times are changing and thriving comes down to flexibility and adaptability. I think we'll see some big changes in aviation in general in the next year or two. The fuel crisis will only bring that change forward.
I'm not pretending that VB won't be affected, it will. But I'm confident that both airlines have business plans in place to accomodate a rise in fuel prices. Anyone with eyeballs could see that the price of oil was always going to increase.
And don't believe everything in the news. It's exaggerated with the worst possible spin on it. That's how they sell newspapers and get ratings, you know.
Times are changing and thriving comes down to flexibility and adaptability. I think we'll see some big changes in aviation in general in the next year or two. The fuel crisis will only bring that change forward.
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Excellent Post Airborne soon
It's good to see that we can think for ourselves and treat what we read with criticism.
Do you remember what the media was saying 8 years ago? "A low cost model in Australia will never work"
Regards,
Sunny
Do you remember what the media was saying 8 years ago? "A low cost model in Australia will never work"
Regards,
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Commuting and Opportunities
Hi, I asked this very question at interview recently. It seems that commuting is not an issue, as long as you are at work on time and well-rested. For standby duties, looks like a lot of V Australia crew who are commuting will just get cheap accommodation / share. I am hoping that the standby duties will be a standby 'block' that will only 'roll' around about once every 3 months...,I vaguely remembering someone in the group asking this at the VRD.
As for pay, well I think V Australia pay is not too bad. 37.5 K base plus super plus allowances and base pay, increasing to 40K after 1 year service. Not only that, you have to remember that with that sort of flying, you are only going to be doing about 4 trips per month once you take time off down route and home into consideration. So, going to work 4 times a month for about 54 k plus super, plus bonus doesnt seem too bad. Beats doing 6 days on , 2 off and so forth in shorthaul. Ok its not quite as much as QF initially...,but you get to advance very quickly within the ranks....,some people here are quoting the QF supervisor pay....,don't forget how many years it will take you to get there at QF...,at least at V Australia, you have a chance to be a supervisor within a year or two.
As for pay, well I think V Australia pay is not too bad. 37.5 K base plus super plus allowances and base pay, increasing to 40K after 1 year service. Not only that, you have to remember that with that sort of flying, you are only going to be doing about 4 trips per month once you take time off down route and home into consideration. So, going to work 4 times a month for about 54 k plus super, plus bonus doesnt seem too bad. Beats doing 6 days on , 2 off and so forth in shorthaul. Ok its not quite as much as QF initially...,but you get to advance very quickly within the ranks....,some people here are quoting the QF supervisor pay....,don't forget how many years it will take you to get there at QF...,at least at V Australia, you have a chance to be a supervisor within a year or two.
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The JP Morgan report today, bought this response from Ross Greenwood (Channel Nine business reporter). Interesting read:
From Ross Greenwood, ninemsn.com.au a little bit of sense in the discussion....
The suggestion that's swept through media outlets is that Virgin Blue could collapse under the weight of higher fuel prices. Its a great headline catcher by the transport analysts at JP Morgan — who authored the report — but raises more questions than it answers. The first point to note is that it claims Virgin Blue will find itself in financial difficulties if fuel prices stay where they are for the next few years.
Well, we've had a report from the OECD saying it doesn't expect oil prices to peak much more in the forseeable future and the President of Shell Oil and the President of OPEC both say there's plenty of oil in the world and the current price spike is a bubble. So back to the Virgin Blue report by JP Morgan.
At the last balance sheet Virgin Blue had around $704 million of cash reserves in its balance sheet; total assets of $2.3 billion and total debt of $1.5 billion. It last year made $217 million. The average cost per available seat kilometre travelled was 8.52 cents — up 6 percent. Its average jetfuel price was $81 US a barrel — that was ahead 7.9 percent last year and the total cost for the year was $489 million.
In the half year to December 31, net profit after tax and new inititiatives was $113 million — presumable adding to the company's cash reserves.
That's how it was. Since then of course jet fuel prices have spiked sharply — they've doubled in the past year to more than US$173 a barrel at their peak and regularly above US$160. The broker UBS raised questions about the profitability of Virgin Blue earlier this week, suggesting it might have to raise capital from shareholders — with transport giant Toll Holdings the major holder with 63 per cent of the business.
So presume that the fuel cost for Virgin Blue this year doubled — to around $980 million. With all other things being equal it works out that the airline would roughly have lost $270 million for the full year. That still will not burn that cash reserve — but put a decent dent it in and bring it down to around $430 million. What JP Morgan and UBS are both saying is that Virgin Blue cannot stand that sort of cash drain forever. That's true enough.
But is it enough to send the airline broke? Not really in the immediate future because presumably the management will change a range of things — most likely air-fares — to address the cash drain caused by fuel prices. The second thing that will cause some stress is the constant need to upgrade aircraft (in order to keep the major servicing of the aircraft down to a mimimum) and the need to promote special fares to keep the load-factor high in the aircraft. The thing that might be cast aside is the V-Australia plan, unless the prices can be set at sensible levels. The worst scenario is that for any reason travellers stop flying or lose confidence.
From Ross Greenwood, ninemsn.com.au a little bit of sense in the discussion....
The suggestion that's swept through media outlets is that Virgin Blue could collapse under the weight of higher fuel prices. Its a great headline catcher by the transport analysts at JP Morgan — who authored the report — but raises more questions than it answers. The first point to note is that it claims Virgin Blue will find itself in financial difficulties if fuel prices stay where they are for the next few years.
Well, we've had a report from the OECD saying it doesn't expect oil prices to peak much more in the forseeable future and the President of Shell Oil and the President of OPEC both say there's plenty of oil in the world and the current price spike is a bubble. So back to the Virgin Blue report by JP Morgan.
At the last balance sheet Virgin Blue had around $704 million of cash reserves in its balance sheet; total assets of $2.3 billion and total debt of $1.5 billion. It last year made $217 million. The average cost per available seat kilometre travelled was 8.52 cents — up 6 percent. Its average jetfuel price was $81 US a barrel — that was ahead 7.9 percent last year and the total cost for the year was $489 million.
In the half year to December 31, net profit after tax and new inititiatives was $113 million — presumable adding to the company's cash reserves.
That's how it was. Since then of course jet fuel prices have spiked sharply — they've doubled in the past year to more than US$173 a barrel at their peak and regularly above US$160. The broker UBS raised questions about the profitability of Virgin Blue earlier this week, suggesting it might have to raise capital from shareholders — with transport giant Toll Holdings the major holder with 63 per cent of the business.
So presume that the fuel cost for Virgin Blue this year doubled — to around $980 million. With all other things being equal it works out that the airline would roughly have lost $270 million for the full year. That still will not burn that cash reserve — but put a decent dent it in and bring it down to around $430 million. What JP Morgan and UBS are both saying is that Virgin Blue cannot stand that sort of cash drain forever. That's true enough.
But is it enough to send the airline broke? Not really in the immediate future because presumably the management will change a range of things — most likely air-fares — to address the cash drain caused by fuel prices. The second thing that will cause some stress is the constant need to upgrade aircraft (in order to keep the major servicing of the aircraft down to a mimimum) and the need to promote special fares to keep the load-factor high in the aircraft. The thing that might be cast aside is the V-Australia plan, unless the prices can be set at sensible levels. The worst scenario is that for any reason travellers stop flying or lose confidence.