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Hi NIKITAcc.
From what i know, with EK you can decline the visa. However, with EY you'll just be randomly selected to get the visa (friends who work there have just received a notice to let them know that on a particular day they will be going to the US Embassy to apply for their crew visa).
I suppose that if you check their requirements on their recruitment website, and it doesn't say anything about having an unrestricted passport, then turn up to the assessment day. If they ask you a question on the assessment day about your passport issue, then just be honest and let them know.
Good luck!
From what i know, with EK you can decline the visa. However, with EY you'll just be randomly selected to get the visa (friends who work there have just received a notice to let them know that on a particular day they will be going to the US Embassy to apply for their crew visa).
I suppose that if you check their requirements on their recruitment website, and it doesn't say anything about having an unrestricted passport, then turn up to the assessment day. If they ask you a question on the assessment day about your passport issue, then just be honest and let them know.
Good luck!
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If you have overstayed on a previous visit or had any other criminal history convictions recorded against you they will probally give you a crew waiver visa.
This will cause you a little more time going through customs but not to much of a hassle.
Of course this depends on the severity of any criminal convictions.
If its only a visa overstay, I foresee no problems for you.
This will cause you a little more time going through customs but not to much of a hassle.
Of course this depends on the severity of any criminal convictions.
If its only a visa overstay, I foresee no problems for you.
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Immigration lawyer...?
My opinion, an overstay is rather a minor offense, if you did not commit other crimes/felonies and was just an overstay, such as a few weeks. I do believe that with the help of an immigration lawyer, you could have the US immigration courts reviewing the issuance of a crew visa for employment purpose reasons. Obviously, it might take time and some expenses.
xxx
Remember, a crew visa (sometimes called a shore pass) is quite a limited visa, with limits of the distance where the holder can travel, and is limited on rather short periods of stay on the US territory (is it 2 weeks...?).
xxx
Present valid reasons, employment hardship etc. and request a review of the case, it might be overturned for crew visa only. I understand that his/her ineligibility might still stand for another tourist visa for a few years, but not for issuance of the crew visa. And stick with US Immigration Laws from now on...!
xxx
One flight attendant (Argentina) I know, got problems with US immigration law because she was de facto "living" with her US boyfriend in Ft.Lauderdale. Until 2002, Argentina was a country listed for I-94 tourist visa waiver, but she ran into a problem (I do not recall the circumstances), her crew visa got stamped "cancelled" then later was reinstated. I know she dealt with an immigration lawyer for assistance. She is now married to her former boyfriend and holds a "green card"... and never has problems in Miami with immigration, when landing as crewmember on the GD or as passenger.
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One advice - When frequently visiting the USA, either as crewmember, and at times as tourist visitor on I-94, be sure to have a copy of the GD or the I-94 you used to enter inside your passport, and to relinquish the stub when you leave. One thing I know, if you arrive on the GD, you must leave on the GD, and if arriving as tourist/passenger, make the nature of your stay clear to the immigration officer on your arrival.
xxx
Good luck to you -
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xxx
Remember, a crew visa (sometimes called a shore pass) is quite a limited visa, with limits of the distance where the holder can travel, and is limited on rather short periods of stay on the US territory (is it 2 weeks...?).
xxx
Present valid reasons, employment hardship etc. and request a review of the case, it might be overturned for crew visa only. I understand that his/her ineligibility might still stand for another tourist visa for a few years, but not for issuance of the crew visa. And stick with US Immigration Laws from now on...!
xxx
One flight attendant (Argentina) I know, got problems with US immigration law because she was de facto "living" with her US boyfriend in Ft.Lauderdale. Until 2002, Argentina was a country listed for I-94 tourist visa waiver, but she ran into a problem (I do not recall the circumstances), her crew visa got stamped "cancelled" then later was reinstated. I know she dealt with an immigration lawyer for assistance. She is now married to her former boyfriend and holds a "green card"... and never has problems in Miami with immigration, when landing as crewmember on the GD or as passenger.
xxx
One advice - When frequently visiting the USA, either as crewmember, and at times as tourist visitor on I-94, be sure to have a copy of the GD or the I-94 you used to enter inside your passport, and to relinquish the stub when you leave. One thing I know, if you arrive on the GD, you must leave on the GD, and if arriving as tourist/passenger, make the nature of your stay clear to the immigration officer on your arrival.
xxx
Good luck to you -
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suppose that if you check their requirements on their recruitment website, and it doesn't say anything about having an unrestricted passport, then turn up to the assessment day. If they ask you a question on the assessment day about your passport issue, then just be honest and let them know.
But if I get the job offer and they do security check, won't they find this out anyways?
I don't think that on the assessment day they will know anything about my passport issue, since it's not the recruiters job to check our passports.
But if I have to fill out some paper work for them, and I'll stumble upon question about my passport, I'll be honest and just let them know about it. I'll wait and see.
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If you have overstayed on a previous visit or had any other criminal history convictions recorded against you they will probally give you a crew waiver visa.
This will cause you a little more time going through customs but not to much of a hassle.
Of course this depends on the severity of any criminal convictions.
If its only a visa overstay, I foresee no problems for you.
This will cause you a little more time going through customs but not to much of a hassle.
Of course this depends on the severity of any criminal convictions.
If its only a visa overstay, I foresee no problems for you.
And what exactly is Crew Waiver Visa?
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Hi everyone! Can someone please help me? I am ready to take my photos and send them with my online stuff to etihad... they did interviews in the USA but i wasnt able to make it because i had a family affair. I am wondering how I can let them know that I can travel to their open house in Manchester, UK? Can someone please tell me? Thank you soooo much!
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Obviously, the recruiters at the assessment day won't physically check your passport (not that it would do any good anyway, since your overstayed visa could have been in a different passport). They'll rely on your honesty. The website doesn't say anything? Go along on the day. If on the day you are asked to fill in some form of paperwork that asks about your passport status, then just be honest.
I severely doubt that it will be a problem for you, though. If you haven't been dishonest with them during the recruitment process, i don't think that they would fire you if when they request for you to get your US visa it is refused. Middle Eastern airlines' employee relations might be a little flawed in some respects, but even i would be surprised if i heard of that happening.
I don't think the passport issue is really that big of a deal for Middle Eastern airlines, since they recruit so many different nationalities.
Focus on actually getting the job offer, then sort out the details like this!
Again, good luck.
I severely doubt that it will be a problem for you, though. If you haven't been dishonest with them during the recruitment process, i don't think that they would fire you if when they request for you to get your US visa it is refused. Middle Eastern airlines' employee relations might be a little flawed in some respects, but even i would be surprised if i heard of that happening.
I don't think the passport issue is really that big of a deal for Middle Eastern airlines, since they recruit so many different nationalities.
Focus on actually getting the job offer, then sort out the details like this!
Again, good luck.
How does the US know you overstayed your visa? If you just overstayed and then left they might not even know. The record keeping was pretty poor for a long time.
I suspect overstaying and not causing any trouble will not be too big a deal.
If you were deported you might find you are lumped into a different group.
What ever you do be totally honest about answering any questions. If they find you have lied to them you will be in very serious trouble.
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I suspect overstaying and not causing any trouble will not be too big a deal.
If you were deported you might find you are lumped into a different group.
What ever you do be totally honest about answering any questions. If they find you have lied to them you will be in very serious trouble.
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Thank you to everyone who replied.
I guess they know... because when I left last December I had to return the piece of paper ( that you fill out in the airplane at the entry to the country ) to the guy in Lufthansa check-in counter. I guess then they need to return that part to INS. I don't know... but not even one person checked my visa in my passport , while leaving USA.... so maybe they won't know.... but I rather not risk it. Because if they find out... I'd be baned from that country for a lifetime .
Ohhh....And I was not departed , I left by my self ( I had enough of USA and it was time for a change
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How does the US know you overstayed your visa? If you just overstayed and then left they might not even know. The record keeping was pretty poor for a long time.
Ohhh....And I was not departed , I left by my self ( I had enough of USA and it was time for a change
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I-94
The "piece of paper" was the stub of your I-94 that is clipped in your passport.
You must surrender it when leaving, and... immigration knows.
They just enter your data in their computers.
The ban is not for life... the ban is 10 years, to apply for a new visa.
New visa could be denied. Suggest an immigration lawyer if needed.
Wow... 2+ years overstay is not "a few weeks"...
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You must surrender it when leaving, and... immigration knows.
They just enter your data in their computers.
The ban is not for life... the ban is 10 years, to apply for a new visa.
New visa could be denied. Suggest an immigration lawyer if needed.
Wow... 2+ years overstay is not "a few weeks"...
xxx
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yes I know what US Immigration law says about overstaying visa... And I took that into consideration before leaving US. But back then I had no idea that it might give me problems while getting a job in different part of the world
Well..... I'll just go ahead with the assessment day and just wait for what is "meant to be".
Hopefully I'll get this job.... otherwise there is always EK !!!
Anyway... one more question about this topic: switching from EY to EK.... is there any probation period... or is it possible to jump from one to the other without any problem?
Lets say there is a scenario that I get the job with EY and after some time they will require me to get an US visa..... off course I won't get it.... and lets say they terminate me. Can I try to get in with EK right after that?
Well..... I'll just go ahead with the assessment day and just wait for what is "meant to be".
Hopefully I'll get this job.... otherwise there is always EK !!!
Anyway... one more question about this topic: switching from EY to EK.... is there any probation period... or is it possible to jump from one to the other without any problem?
Lets say there is a scenario that I get the job with EY and after some time they will require me to get an US visa..... off course I won't get it.... and lets say they terminate me. Can I try to get in with EK right after that?
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letīs see, i have no idea about us visa, all i can say is just do the interview and then, if u r succesful go to abu dabi or dubai with ek, live the experience and then letīs see the famous visa.
donīt complicate yourself and donīt worry about something you donīt know accurately, ask a lawyer......
donīt complicate yourself and donīt worry about something you donīt know accurately, ask a lawyer......
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As BelArgUSA says - that cardboard was your I-94 and they do eventually cross file them. Still the fact you stayed for 2 plus years and no one bothered to check or come looking for you shows how badly organized they are.
My advice - go the the official CBP websites and see what they say. The German CBP web site has a link to a 900 service you can call for info, on your dime.
I would say get a lawyer but you need to be very careful there. A lot of immigration lawyers are just bottom feeders and many of them are flat out wrong in what they tell you. Buyer beware.
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My advice - go the the official CBP websites and see what they say. The German CBP web site has a link to a 900 service you can call for info, on your dime.
I would say get a lawyer but you need to be very careful there. A lot of immigration lawyers are just bottom feeders and many of them are flat out wrong in what they tell you. Buyer beware.
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I don't know if there is some form of agreement between EY and EK, but i do know that you may not find it as easy as just 'transferring' from one to the other. If you leave before your contract expires, you may have to get your original employer's 'permission' (so to speak) to transfer your residence visa to your new sponsor.
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Hi guys and girls. i consider this is a helpful forum for all of us who want to become cabin crew. I have been reading carefully all what you write.
What i would like to hear now from you is some advices or some sugestions about my doubt. In next October 30 there will be an open day in Sao Paulo-Brasil (first time in South America) and i am thinking to go there, i am bolivian, 31 years old, i speak english, portugues and obviusly spanish, i live in Bolivia and i work for American Airlines as Security Agent, i have participated three times in Emirates selection process,(twice in Santa Cruz- Bolivia and one in Rio de Janeiro-Brasil) the three times i got the assesement day and twice i failed one stage before the final interview, but never got the final interview.
So, do you think guys that i would have any real chance to get the job with Etihad considering that i am 31 years old ??? do they take men in the same quantity that women?.
I ask you these because i live and work in Santa Cruz-Bolivia and as you imagine it is very expensive for me to travel to Sao Paulo for the open day and being separated in the first round, but obviusly i understand that is the risk that i would have to take to get hired, but what do you consider that is my real chance to get it, how many people do they take in each open day?, is the selection process in the same way as EK does?
Do you know about people that was hired being 31 yeras old?? is that real? what do you suggest me, advice me??
I have said to myself that i wont give up until i get it, but i also want to be realistic to know about Etihad policy. if the open day were in my own city would be great, but it is not.
I will thank so much to hear about you people, you advices, if theres is a current EY cabin crew, please what do you think?
Thanks in advance and luck for everybody.
What i would like to hear now from you is some advices or some sugestions about my doubt. In next October 30 there will be an open day in Sao Paulo-Brasil (first time in South America) and i am thinking to go there, i am bolivian, 31 years old, i speak english, portugues and obviusly spanish, i live in Bolivia and i work for American Airlines as Security Agent, i have participated three times in Emirates selection process,(twice in Santa Cruz- Bolivia and one in Rio de Janeiro-Brasil) the three times i got the assesement day and twice i failed one stage before the final interview, but never got the final interview.
So, do you think guys that i would have any real chance to get the job with Etihad considering that i am 31 years old ??? do they take men in the same quantity that women?.
I ask you these because i live and work in Santa Cruz-Bolivia and as you imagine it is very expensive for me to travel to Sao Paulo for the open day and being separated in the first round, but obviusly i understand that is the risk that i would have to take to get hired, but what do you consider that is my real chance to get it, how many people do they take in each open day?, is the selection process in the same way as EK does?
Do you know about people that was hired being 31 yeras old?? is that real? what do you suggest me, advice me??
I have said to myself that i wont give up until i get it, but i also want to be realistic to know about Etihad policy. if the open day were in my own city would be great, but it is not.
I will thank so much to hear about you people, you advices, if theres is a current EY cabin crew, please what do you think?
Thanks in advance and luck for everybody.
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Go for it, if you get the job and Etihad sends you to apply for a crew visa and you don't get it...BIG DEAL! You will become one of dozens who were unsuccessful. It makes NO DIFFERENCE to your employment....just can't go to the USA.
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I agree with Bredrin (and everyone else), just have a go!
I would try not to let on (don't lie if they ask, but don't offer up the info if you don't have to) during the interview process of your predicament though!
I would try not to let on (don't lie if they ask, but don't offer up the info if you don't have to) during the interview process of your predicament though!