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Its me 17th July 2012 13:02

@ Red Tree:

Well, perhaps you should get back to the basic concept of Pilot Training. RTFQ..

You donīt know what that means? Well, thatīs perhaps you never really were a Pilot. But still, trying to tell YOUR pilots what to do. :=

What I am saying is, that I never said that I was or am working for your precious company. All the information is stricly carried forward to me from your disappointed employees. I happen to know many of them. You know: Itīs a small world :ok:

Poor VJ world I must admit. All the blame and shame..:ugh:

Carry on Red Tree. Carry on...way to go!

RedTree 18th July 2012 08:07

@ It's me.

I never claimed to be a pilot ...just because I am proficient in English, doesn't automatically make me part of the VJ Management. I am here to merely balance the discussion for those reading this thread that your comments are both unfounded and misinformed.

For example: 2x LearJet 60XR F/O's are currently being upgraded to Captain as we speak. So your facts or those of your 'informers' are once again incorrect.

If there are aspects of working for VistaJet you don't like, then rather than acting like a petulant child and moaning on public forums about it, why don't you take the opportunity to talk to those people within the company who can make the changes happen. VistaJet, like any other business, isn't perfect but it's always encouraged an open discussion envrionment.....I suggest you take advantage of that.

Its me 19th July 2012 18:52

OMG...itīs you again. Above the Cloud with the UU...proceeding airport..

Thanks for the hint. Here is one from me:

Alkohol-Missbrauch: Russische Männer trinken sich in den Tod - SPIEGEL ONLINE

spherejet 23rd August 2012 00:08

Another pointless post
 
Get a life Above the clouds and stop spending one in them you haven't been gainfully employed for years for anything over a probation period it's pricks like you who if they put as much effort into working for a living instead of trawling the virtual world might actually contribute something to the industry:ugh:

Above The Clouds 23rd August 2012 15:17


Sphere jet
Another pointless post
Get a life Above the clouds and stop spending one in them you haven't been gainfully employed for years for anything over a probation period it's pricks like you who if they put as much effort into working for a living instead of trawling the virtual world might actually contribute something to the industry
you are talking you have the wrong person
I think you need to get your facts right before you start spouting rubbish like that above, been with my current employer for many years, so no idea who you are talking about.

Your very vocal with your remarks about someone you have no idea about for your first post.

Its me 1st September 2012 07:32

Well, whatever!

As long as everyone gets the grips that Vistajet is currently not your choice of employer we are all happy :ugh:...thatīs actually what this thread was about originally, isnīt it? ...so get back to it alright. :ok:

And spread the word...share the knowledge!

Cloud Chaser 1st September 2012 07:42

Any idea if/when there will be openings for non-rated crews again in the future?

FerrypilotDK 6th September 2012 12:39

Embarrassing
 
I am not on the forums that often, as I have a real life.... Butas I know some VJ people, former VJ people and a lot of others in this industry, I usually check headings about Ocean Sky, VJ, Comlux etc. when I do come on.

The tone, the misinformation, the nationalistic barbs are all embarrassing to read. Perhaps some of you need courses in CRM, communications and even morals before sitting down to your keyboards again!

I can only hope that non-pilots don't wander into these forums, as if they knew the caliber of some of the pilots in the front, they might take the train from now on!

:ugh:

...of course, never let facts confuse an issue.

tommoutrie 7th September 2012 21:05

..I wish I had a real life..

Gulfstreamaviator 8th September 2012 15:43

I had a life but then became a corporate pilot
 
It you dont like it, just wait, the company (any company) will go bust...almost 90% do....

glf

Uffie 7th October 2012 21:24

Does anyone know when VistaJet will start there next round of interviews?

jr of dallas 8th October 2012 09:29

Plus, they are wearing a red tie......:yuk:

RedTree 11th October 2012 12:15

I don't quite understand all the negativity towards VistaJet on this forum (or is it jealously?)

VistaJet continues to grow because the company is diverse, has clear direction and is not afraid to explore new territories. It doesn't hurt, either, that their aircraft are among the most beautiful on the market.

Month on month the company continues to break new records and expand both its customer and employee base and while other operators fall foul of the economic situation (Ocean Sky?), VistaJet is taking on more and more aircraft (30 currently)

Yes there were problems in the past (what company can say otherwise) but I honestly believe we are seeing the emergence of the new market leader here....

PURPLE PITOT 11th October 2012 14:32

Ocean sky did not fall foul of the economic situation. That was a premeditated train crash.

INNflight 21st October 2012 21:10

Malta
 
Just came here re. Malta as well.

One of their GLEX is now flying with 9H reg., seems to show progress? 9H-VJA is the one if I remember correctly.

tali 23rd October 2012 15:28

Where do we come from....
 
Just my opinion.....

I have worked with british, german and austrians pilots,
I really enjoyed working with all of them, with no differences.

Of course there are "snakes" everywhere but not all of them coming from the same place....

Vj looks is gonna be the TRTO of the corporate aviation...

All my best wishes to VJ crews.


Good night

Globalstream 23rd October 2012 17:15


Vj VJ looks is gonna be the TRTO of the corporate aviation
Eh? Vista Jet has an incredibly poor reputation as an employer and trainer, at least in the circles I mix in.

jr of dallas 23rd October 2012 19:32

plus they have to wear this red tie OMG !

Moonwalker 24th October 2012 11:39

What's wrong with a red tie?

aviatn 1st November 2012 12:41

Nothing wrong with a red tie. We had to wear one in a company I used to work at.
Not much seems to be moving at Vista as far as new staff is concerned, or am I wrong?

Gavno 3rd November 2012 19:02

Just saw on the news that the European president, Jose manuel Barroso was in Yangon/Burma with one their plane..looked like a Challenger...

stuckgear 3rd November 2012 19:29


Just saw on the news that the European president, Jose manuel Barroso
[pedant mode on]

Jose Manuel Barrosso is the President of the European Commission.

Herman Van Rompuy is the President of the European Council (aka the European President)

[/pedant mode off]

Barrosso was there to gift 125m to Burma - if you can credit that ! :hmm:

Iver 3rd November 2012 20:34

Also just saw a picture of Justin Timberlake and his new bride getting off a Vistajet 605 at Kilmanjaro...

Empty Cruise 5th November 2012 07:51

Telephone interviews going on this and last week, 4 flightcrew hired in the last 2 months, 3rd aircraft on V9-reg delivered, planning move to Malta and sales/memberservice move to London completed with little fuss.

In other words - compared with the competition, not doing too badly ;)

Its me 6th November 2012 09:57

...not doing too badly?
Well, I wouldnt be too certain ībout that. The move to Malta in deed comes along with a lot frustration and disgrace. Not everyone in the office agrees, that it is such a great idea to be dragged to BFE with the entire family. What would your wifes and kids say? ANd VJ does not leave an option. You agree or you go! How employee-friedly is that?

But overall this just one more time represents the company attitude. Swallow or Fu** *ff!

What a great company! Timberlake, Baroso and other VIPs only look at the money, not behind the curtain. If they discover a bargain, they take it. Donīt we do that too at Carrefour and Media Markt? So, what does all this bu****it have to do with the way the company operates and treats its loyal employees?

At the end, thatīs exactly why most pilots decide to leave and only use VJ as a TRTO.

Gavno 6th November 2012 12:18

Its me.....you funny lad, why are you so pissed off about this company ? I red your posts...you don't work there (neither do I)!!! Why so much hatred ?...R you a little obsessed or getting angry easily anytime you seen vistajet doing the headlines...ahah ! Take a rest mate ! life is just too too short to be pissed off at peanuts :E

Above The Clouds 6th November 2012 13:22

Gvano

I think you will find that "it's me" once worked for Vista Jet and was fired for being a well below standard pilot and now thinks he can do harm to a succeeding company by talking crap on the internet, that's from my inside source.

cldrvr 6th November 2012 14:08

So we had Jr of Dallas rubbishing TAG because he failed his interview and simride and now we got this guy rubbishing Vista because he was let go. In another thread we had a few ex NJE guys having a go at that company.

Pprune is taking a bit of a turn for the worst as of late. Need to take more posters with a bucket of salt I guess.

jr of dallas 6th November 2012 15:22

Oh hello Cldrvr...
Well if you read the post i was not rubbishing about TaG but another chinese company wich offered me a rather sh*** position.. As for the interview with TaG it was just not the conditions i was unfortunatly expecting so it didn't go any further (forgot my vaseline tube on that day) and I don't know where you got that I had a simride and that I failed it....:confused: ( or maybe it happened while I was sleeping)
As for the bucket of salt I conclude that you start washing your mouth with it straight away :E

RedTree 27th November 2012 15:06


...not doing too badly?
Well, I wouldnt be too certain ībout that.
It's me;

I hope this finally dispells your belief that VistaJet is struggling:

Historic Order | Private Jet Charter

tommoutrie 27th November 2012 17:54

Hey thats a good idea CLDRVR - I could do that with your for the accusations you made on the flap retraction thread and in your email to me.

Posted the data by the way, have a look..

Makes interesting reading and makes your knowledge look pretty ropey..

Above The Clouds 27th November 2012 18:11

Hey @ "it's Me"

Bet you wished you had kept your gob shut now with all your rants about VistaJet and how bad a company they are, seems to me they are doing very well with the biggest Bizjet order in history.

From ATC with the UU-- proceeding airport, rant on matey.

x933 27th November 2012 18:37

Anyone fancy a sweepstakes on how many they actually deliver?

Netjets ordered 33 Falcon 7X's - anyone know how many they have delivered? A very unscientific test

Most of these orders will be to artificially inflate the price of a Global - want one tomorrow? Well, Vista Jet will sell you one over list...

I'd be somewhat suprised if more than 15-20% of these aircraft actually deliver.

Its me 28th November 2012 07:43

Quote: "I'd be somewhat suprised if more than 15-20% of these aircraft actually deliver."

To be honest, Iīd be suprised if there are any delivered! :E How many times has TF already signed some kind of intentional letter to widen his fleet. There have been somewhat five or six "Letters of Intent" at all kind of airshows in the recent past. And, what has happened? Nothing...

Thatīs all BS... rather look at the people working there. Why is VJ looking for new crewplanner, aircrews, ops people?Browse the net guys. Youīll find it. Itīs simple, īcause management treats the employees like !!!!. They are mostly not even aware that VJ is looking for replacements. Anyway: Who wants to move to Malta? Well...guess how many..

VJ is nothing else than a TRTO for the most pilots. Get in, get a type rating and start applying somewhere else... One would be surprised how many pilots have actually sent their CV to AeroLogic, ACG, AirBerlin, EcexuJet, TAG, FAI, etc... thatīs really an achievement of a great management :D Chapeau!

INNflight 28th November 2012 09:16

All my best wishes to them - if they get the jets and can pair them with some serious business - congrats!

Still - I agree that they'll probably make a big load of cash on lots of options from people who want a Global two or three years down the road and are prepared to pay for it. Anyways...

RedTree 28th November 2012 10:15


Thatīs all BS... rather look at the people working there. Why is VJ looking for new crewplanner, aircrews, ops people?Browse the net guys. Youīll find it. Itīs simple, īcause management treats the employees like !!!!. They are mostly not even aware that VJ is looking for replacements. Anyway: Who wants to move to Malta? Well...guess how many..
Why are we advertising? More aircraft = more staff.

Crew planning have increased from 3 to 6 people…OPS have gone from 20 to 28 due to increased number of revenue flights. 3 ops staff aren’t going to malta, the other 25 are – so where are you getting your facts from Itsme?

You have left the company now, so drop it. Unless you realise that your negative attitude and resignation from VJ was the biggest mistake of your life.

RedTree 28th November 2012 10:56


To be honest, Iīd be suprised if there are any delivered! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ilies/evil.gif How many times has TF already signed some kind of intentional letter to widen his fleet. There have been somewhat five or six "Letters of Intent" at all kind of airshows in the recent past. And, what has happened? Nothing...
Again; wrong.

All 605s ever ordered were delivered.
All lear 60’s taken…

G6000, 7 more over next 12 months, none sold.
G8000 2016 deliveries.

We've taken 50 aircraft now in line with renewing fleet every 3 to 5 years. So if you add up the number of orders, taking those into account those aircraft which are not even flight tested yet (85 and 8000) you will see that we have sold very few positions.

taq511 28th November 2012 17:25

What about the Airbus? Was announched with a big bang and dropped tacitly into the wastebasket.
So belief it only, if you can touch the aircraft and are able to read the plate, where it says, to which Bank/Leasingcompany this aircraft with all of its components belongs.
Cheers

RedTree 29th November 2012 07:49


What about the Airbus? Was announched with a big bang and dropped tacitly into the wastebasket.
The Airbus was never intended for the VistaJet model.

3 were ordered and all sold.

LRpilot 29th November 2012 15:53

Hi guys,
I'm looking for someone working for Vista Jet able to share any update infos pilots likes (hiring? career progression,rosters, pay,bases, working enviroment etc.)
Any help it's really appreciate!
Many thanks!
LRpilot


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