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redsnail 20th Nov 2022 14:40

And just because on Day 1 you have an XLS on your desk, doesn't mean that's what you'll do your type rating on. As with anything with NJE, it'll change.

EatMyShorts! 21st Nov 2022 11:10


Originally Posted by redsnail (Post 11333999)
And just because on Day 1 you have an XLS on your desk, doesn't mean that's what you'll do your type rating on. As with anything with NJE, it'll change.

I was lucky, there was no rating-swap necessary. But others on my Indoc did that, due to body-height.

funkydreadlocks 29th Nov 2022 18:44

Disappointed to get the XLS on my training bond, but hey, an airplane is an airplane. Only disappointed because I like new tech and the XLS is the oldest airplane in the fleet. I’m excited to get a new type rating either way. And hopefully I can eventually bid onto something else. I’ll happily take the phenom. I know not everyone is keen on the lemon

on another note. How does one join the union? I’m given to understand that NJ has its own union.

i’m not exactly a “fight the man” kinda person but i do like representation.

redsnail 29th Nov 2022 20:23

Until the paper work is signed off, nothing's happened. Folks have moved types before Indoc's finished. Yes, we do. Are you in Indoc? Ask the lads. Otherwise, see your PM.

Boabity 30th Nov 2022 09:38

Indoc starts next week for me, looking forward to it!

EatMyShorts! 30th Nov 2022 10:13

Get ready for your liver-training!

Boabity 2nd Dec 2022 12:01

It didn't take that long for me but understand there's only 2 or 3 people looking at all the applications and also then conducting online and face to face interviews. So time probably varies a bit, you will definitely be told either way though so no news is good news for now.

Globally Challenged 2nd Dec 2022 16:20


Originally Posted by 4AE13 (Post 11340971)
Good afternoon everyone, I recieved the invitation to the second stage part one ( online tests) I did 2 weeks ago and still dont knowif I passed it . Do you know how long it takes to get the information if I am success to pass tothe next part ( online interview ). Thanks in advance.

Kura are extremely slow so try to relax and wait it out.

iFunFlyer 9th Dec 2022 17:39

Hi,

Can anyone tell me what a typical day at NetJets is like on the smaller size fleets?

I understand there's a lot of changes etc throughout the day but maybe a day from your roster in the past?

Thanks!!

redsnail 9th Dec 2022 17:58

Typical day? Are you talking Summer or Winter? Peak season? Special airports included?
A normal revenue flight would have you showing at the FBO around 1.5 to 2 hours before planned departure. Usual pilot stuff plus making sure the cabin is prepared and the catering put away. Keep an eye on the flight plan to see if there's any CTOTs etc. Negotiate the TSAT and work out if it's a push back or taxi off stand.
45-30 min before departure. One of us will go to the FBO to collect the pax and luggage. Liase with your colleague about the luggage and any delays if required.
Board and settle the pax. Brief the pax. Show where the food and drinks are. Serve a drink if there's time.
Normal pilot stuff.
During the flight go back and check that the pax are fine and happy with things.
30 ish minutes before landing, tidy up, prepare the cabin and brief the pax on the weather and check if transport is organised.
Normal pilot stuff.
Escort pax to FBO and make sure they and their luggage gets away fine.
Clean cabin, restock where required. Refuel and toilet service if required. Prepare aircraft for the next flight.
Repeat.

iFunFlyer 9th Dec 2022 19:00

Perfect, that's what I was looking for, thx!

Klimax 10th Dec 2022 18:15


Originally Posted by redsnail (Post 11345091)
Typical day? Are you talking Summer or Winter? Peak season? Special airports included?
A normal revenue flight would have you showing at the FBO around 1.5 to 2 hours before planned departure. Usual pilot stuff plus making sure the cabin is prepared and the catering put away. Keep an eye on the flight plan to see if there's any CTOTs etc. Negotiate the TSAT and work out if it's a push back or taxi off stand.
45-30 min before departure. One of us will go to the FBO to collect the pax and luggage. Liase with your colleague about the luggage and any delays if required.
Board and settle the pax. Brief the pax. Show where the food and drinks are. Serve a drink if there's time.
Normal pilot stuff.
During the flight go back and check that the pax are fine and happy with things.
30 ish minutes before landing, tidy up, prepare the cabin and brief the pax on the weather and check if transport is organised.
Normal pilot stuff.
Escort pax to FBO and make sure they and their luggage gets away fine.
Clean cabin, restock where required. Refuel and toilet service if required. Prepare aircraft for the next flight.
Repeat.

Clean?? WTF. Does this mean NJ pilots gets paid the Cabin Crew salary in addition to the pilot salary or that´s included in the pilot pay?

Globally Challenged 10th Dec 2022 19:24


Originally Posted by Klimax (Post 11345616)
Clean?? WTF. Does this mean NJ pilots gets paid the Cabin Crew salary in addition to the pilot salary or that´s included in the pilot pay?

Only 1 of the main euro fleets is big enough to require cabin crew.

The others have Inflight Service Reps some of the time and the small fleets only have 2 pilots.

Sorry if €300k isn’t enough for you to run a wipe over the tables after a flight.

EatMyShorts! 10th Dec 2022 21:01

The Falcons and the Globals have FAs, the Challenger may have ISRs "only". But essentially they do the same job, except for the safety briefing that has to be done by the flight crew.

Cleaning the cabin is - in 90% of cases - quickly done. There are only a few flights where the cabin may look like after someone has detonated a bloody food-bomb. And GloballyChallenged writes: I don't mind doing this for a salary like this. It's part of the job. If someone does not feel comfortable with this kind of work, stay away from business aviation!

funkydreadlocks 11th Dec 2022 04:56

Since when have pilots become too good to do some wiping of surfaces etc? Especially for this excellent salary. The whole point of working in GA instead of the airlines is to have that sense of “ownership” for the airplane while on tour. Can’t wait :8

I used to help the CC pick up rubbish on the turnaround if I had time when I flew a certain pink jet. It boosted morale, shortened the turnaround, and on rare occasions resulted in a wee token of gratitude like a bar of chocolate during the next leg.

Now,
where’s that bin bag?

TugaFly 11th Dec 2022 06:07

Netjets US just announced the start of home base airport program, instead of gateway, any idea if Netjets Europe will follow suit?

redsnail 11th Dec 2022 07:23


Originally Posted by TugaFly (Post 11345837)
Netjets US just announced the start of home base airport program, instead of gateway, any idea if Netjets Europe will follow suit?

No idea. No mention of it (so far) from the union and nothing on the union forum either.

As for

Clean?? WTF.
.
The way I see it and many of us in the company do is the faster the aircraft is cleaned and restocked, the quicker we get to the hotel. We're a team.

Klimax 11th Dec 2022 07:59


Originally Posted by EatMyShorts! (Post 11345687)
The Falcons and the Globals have FAs, the Challenger may have ISRs "only". But essentially they do the same job, except for the safety briefing that has to be done by the flight crew.

Cleaning the cabin is - in 90% of cases - quickly done. There are only a few flights where the cabin may look like after someone has detonated a bloody food-bomb. And GloballyChallenged writes: I don't mind doing this for a salary like this. It's part of the job. If someone does not feel comfortable with this kind of work, stay away from business aviation!

I guess when you´re on an aircraft of a smaller size with no FAs, you gotta do the cleaning then - suppose I only briefly touched that segment, but yeah I do seem to recall we did the same or someone did! It is what it is, I guess.

EatMyShorts! 11th Dec 2022 08:43

Even on planes with FAs/ISRs, the flight crew will usually help with wiping, hoovering, restocking, as soon as they have finished their post-flight duties... We are a team here, there is no door between the cockpit and the cabin/galley.

Klimax 12th Dec 2022 12:03


Originally Posted by EatMyShorts! (Post 11345892)
Even on planes with FAs/ISRs, the flight crew will usually help with wiping, hoovering, restocking, as soon as they have finished their post-flight duties... We are a team here, there is no door between the cockpit and the cabin/galley.

And that´s all good and glorious. However, I´ve more than once come across cockpit crews that tend to be all so helpful with stuff behind the curtain, only to find themselves behind when the sh@t show begins. I´m not impressed when the airplane is all shiny and ready and then you see a rushed briefing or a forgotten pre-flight checklist, because the attention was diverted somewhere else. In biz aviation there´s a "get the job done" mentality - and it´s not always completely appreciated what the no 1 objective is. Anyways, I believe NJ is a well oiled machine and that you fellows are professional enough to have it straightened out the right way. In private operations (whether managed or not) it´s not always straight cut where the main focus should be. Finally, it seems that some pilots even enjoy cleaning and polishing the owners airplane - I don´t personally fall into that group - I don´t mind flying it though (and assuring that priority no 1 is secured!).


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