I used Dauntless Safelog for a few years. Not bad, bit clunky but some good features.
Recently switched to Foreflight. Much simpler.

I use My Pilot Log. A new one and has both apps and web version. Also really cheap.
https://www.mypilotlog.co.uk

Buyer Beware

Like many others I bought a “Lifetime” subscription for MCC PILOT LOG. After less than 4 years of imports the programme is now completely useless and I am unable to download or import any past or future flights. The lifetime subscription was a complete scam and there will be other users whose “lifetime” subscription was significantly shorter than mine.

MCC highlights that the “lifetime” subscription is for the license only. The only problem is that the license is now linked to a completely useless piece of logbook software. That is very sharp practice and I would consider it a scam. I and many others paid for a lifetime “license” subscription to a piece of software that the developer new they were eventually going to leave unsupported causing it to be become useless for the purpose it was bought.

I have attempted to resolve the issue with MCC Crew Connect and after several emails they finally admitted that MCC PILOT LOG was no longer able to download or import data. I now have a “lifetime” subscription to a useless piece of logbook software.

MCC help desk stated that I had “Grandfather rights” to their new software. This initially sounded promising but it quickly became apparent that these “Grandfather rights” required another upfront payment of 3 years subscriptions...... what a rip off!!

I would strongly advise anybody looking for a long term logbook program to do their home work and avoid Crew Connect/lounge.

If I hear anything else I will update you, but don’t hold your breath.

why don't you use simply Airline FlightLog ? It's free ;)

I have tried that one but personally for me it has way too much clutter and too many options haha

Excel pilot logbook does the trick, simple easy to use and one off payment.
Doesn't have the fancy bells and whistles of something like Logten Pro however but does the job

For those lucky enough to be under a CAA that accept digital logbook but printed, is the electronic signature printed enough or are you required to sign every page by pen?

If you are referring to the UK CAA, you are required to sign every page unfortunately.
Each page must include a running total, and there must be a cover page stating your name also.

See here: https://www.caa.co.uk/General-aviati...ting-logbooks/

It's still unclear whether an electronic signature on the pdf once printed is valid. I guess signing it by paper would make sense. And just copies would suffice. Never sent my original logbook. Only copies.

The CAA recently accepted an electronically signed PDF (at the bottom of every page) of my logbook for ATPL issue. It was also emailed to them.

Signing PDFs on a Mac is nice and easy using the annotate function in Preview.app.

LogTen Pro is my weapon of choice. Can't recommend it enough.

+1 Another vote for Log10 Pro. Very good product, but expensive.

Agreed - and worth every cent.

Thanks to CrewLounge PilotLog I’ve reverted to pen and paper.
I use an Excel Spreadsheet to keep a record which I eventually transfer to my permanent Logbook.

I’ll never use LogTen Pro because, to me, no digital Logbook is worth the amount you’d pay in Sub fees over a career.

Logbooks aren’t complicated, and MccPilotLog was a fantastic piece of software with a one time purchase cost. When I first started using it some 10 years ago (give or take) I had a few issues with hours printing in the wrong columns of my Countries format. They were actually able to understand the problems and subsequently resolve them in a timely manner.

CrewLounge Support is non-existent. Multiple emails back and forward with them (over weeks, even months at their reply rate) got my no where… and that was just trying to resolve the same format issues that had been resolved previously in MCC!
The list of issues I have with PilotLog are extensive, and echo what previous posters have already mentioned.

My import of MCC data had many issues with remarks/comments. As my MCC Logbook had been printed (and backed up in PDF format), I started a new Logbook in PilotLog utilising the past experience function.

My Current Airline roster imports fine, but any attempt to import historic data (to get actual flight times and Aircraft rego’s) just downloads my current roster from the current date forward. So I input that data manually.

But the deal breaker, is I cannot print to my local format (required) as it places hours in the wrong columns for certain tasks.

2 years of support tickets and nothing.

I should of demanded a refund immediately, but instead, gave them the time they so desperately asked for to resolve the bugs. They’d resolved my issues with MCC so surely they can do it again right? Might just take a while longer due to the migration process. Sucker.

While some users claim to have had no issue with this Software, can you really trust a company who can’t (won’t) get a number to print one column to the right in 2 years?

While I hear good things about LogTen, they too could end up as another MCCPilotLog in due course, and how much are they costing you per year?
It seems to be all too common theses days. Companies get greedy and simply “re-brand” to extract more cash through premium features which were included in the original version.

Have you looked at SafeLog? I've been using it for years and while not perfect it's really not bad.

I used to have mccPilotLog and now I have a lifetime license of CrewLounge PILOTLOG. While the transition has not been buttery smooth, I am quite happy now with it.

On the contrary to ElZicho's experience, CrewLounge's tech support so far has been one of the best I've ever experienced. They strive to get back to queries in 2 days and over the past year they've been very proactive at improving the app and correct bugs I and others reported. At the moment the support is not available because they've been severely impacted by Typhoon Rai in the Philippines.

Works flawlessly with EASA format.

Used Skylog Pro, for as long as I can remember. One off fee, no repeat fees. Good service when I needed it .
Simply and efficient

Is Skylog Pro still getting updates? Is it accepted by EASA?

I suspect the varying experiences in migrating from one Software to the other comes down to the different operating environments and Logbook formats.
If your MCC Database was mostly RPT, Sector Logged from A-B, then you've likely had a smooth migration.
If however, some/all of your flying in MCC was Logged without Dep/Arr fields (as it allowed) and instead was Route logged via the Remarks section, then you were in for a bad time.... and I had a lot of Survey/Charter work logged like that in MCC. This might seem strange to some, depending on your local logbook format, but mine simply has a "Flight Details" column. It could read LAX - LHR or it could have the name of the Farm which had a paddock long enough to be called a "Runway".

When I migrated from MCC to PilotLog, almost all of my non-Airline flying got totally corrupted. Support told me they couldn't fix it and suggested I start PilotLog fresh utilizing the Previous Experience function which I did.
I then started having various other issues (as per my previous post) so gave up and walked away.
The whole process was an eye opener for me in just how easily a digital Logbook can get corrupted and did I really want to deal with this every time a new Version gets rolled out.

A few Colleagues use LogTen pro and absolutely rave about... suppose it's true, you do get what you pay for, but I've just fallen back to pen and paper.

Years later and I see Crew Lounge is still not worth it. I had MCC PilotLog for many years before the change over to CrewLounge. After spending days and hours trying to fix the bugs fixable, I switched over to LogTen Pro. I never wanted to as I did not want to pay a subscription for my logbook. I can again confirm that it has been more than worth it.

ilI would recommend that people do not waste their time.

Complete Aviation
 

I recently downloaded an app that someone sent on a company group chat. It’s free to use the logbook and has some other features like roster import and METARs etc. I imported my logbook from the over priced LogTen Pro. I think they’re releasing new features quite regularly as it was just launched. Link here Complete Aviation

Just had an email through from mccPILOTLOG that they are discontinuing their "grandfathering program", on the 24th November, one day before their Black Friday sale.

The old mccPILOTLOG software is running fine for me - but they say the cloud server running it is having frequent outages and will only remain alive as long as technically possible.

Is it worth the upgrade to the new CrewLounge PILOTLOG, what do you guys think?

I read that there were teething issues with the new rendition but that they might've been ironed out now?

I'm in the same boat.

For what it's worth their website has a different date than the email we all received:

I originally switched over to LogTen because Crewlounge had many issues at the beginning. Eventually switched back as it was still cheaper to "reinstate" my lifetime license than keep paying for LogTen. All seems to be working nicely now, no issues and easy sync with our rostering software. So it may be worth it to invest the €110 or so... just to have a valid option if mccPilotlog really stops working.

Exporting from LogTen was a pain and required manual clean up of the CSV file to have everything imported properly, despite exporting in supposedly the correct format according to Crewlounge FAQ. But coming directly from mccPilotlog should be straight forward I guess.

I had that email as well and since I figured that the "new" CrewLounge PILOTLOG was more mature now, I made use of my grandfathering right. Let's see for how long this "lifetime subscription" will be valid...

And, yes, the transition from mccPILOTLOG to CrewLounge PILOTLOG was really easy and worked out nicely. Just follow the given instructions to the dot.

I noticed that too - I think their original intention was for it to last until the end of the month - but they must've noticed that they were going to offer their usual Black Friday sale on the 25th November and decided not to extend this offer to the grandfathering program - hence the email. That's my guess, anyway.

Thanks EatMyShorts, anyone else care to comment now that the app is more mature or is it still a s#$tfight? I had the same issue with logten pro after paying for a lifetime subscription and my phone dying, so won’t be going back there.

My Crewlounge works well enough for me, I log my flights on my phone and use my PC for reporting - I'd say most of the bugs are worked out.

I took the dive. I actually still prefer the old application. The new one may be more modern, secure and have some more features - but it seems a bit clunkier/slower.
Anyway, it's done now. Hopefully they don't rinse & repeat this process in 5-10 years time.

I did not see a huge difference between the two versions. The current one has a few more options to configure tables etc.. But I do agree, I did not really want to change to the new system, but I felt it was the right time to do so to avoid the subscription scheme that new users have to enter. Even if they start over in 5 to 10 years, it will have been much cheaper for us than any other subscription based logbook provider.

I switched over to the newer PILOTLOG version at a fairly early stage, have not used it much over the past two years but it has been working well for me so far. Not too many issues and the few times that I had to contact support, they were helpful. My only gripe is that it runs as a non-native app on a Mac, which means that its reponses are sometimes a bit odd when switching between applications. No big issue but something that could be improved upon.

Hello Guys,
I have started several years ago with Flylogio because it was free at that time and very easy to use with a minimalistic UI, but then they changed to a subscription plan, and just two months ago they increased their price, so currently its pretty expensive for me (Basic plan with just the logbook - 4€/annually or 5€/monthly; Premium plan with the logbook, VFR navigation & flight recording - 8€/annually or 9€/monthly). So currently I'm trying to find any other solution, platform to change and migrate my datas. I heard about LogTen Pro, which is very nice, but it's also pretty expensive for me, and of course I heard about the new software of MCC Pilotlog -> the new Crewlounge Pilotlog. Right now I'm a bit struggling to choose, which would be the best option. I heard a lot of bad stuff about Crewlounge Pilotlog, but as they improve it continuously, its getting better and better, so maybe it looks the best option for me, especially due to they have a nice roster following function.
Any advice or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Csaba

If you are not to bothered about the airline rostering then you can try My Pilot Log its multi-platform and very customizable and reasonably priced. It fairly new so they seem to continue to keep adding new features etc

Best Electronic Logbook?
 

Hi all,

Starting with a new airline soon and wanting to change e-logbooks. I've used CrewLounge PilotLog for a few years and whilst I love how much info you can input (and extract) from it, the user interface is old and I've had numerous problems where their support team has taken months to solve seemingly simple problems which have prevented me from using it altogether.

I'm aware that LogTen Pro seems to have the best overall reviews but it's ~3x more expensive than PilotLog and FlyLog.io which I've been recommended by a good friend. My slight concern is that FlyLog seems to be targeted toward GA more than airline, not sure how much of an issue but maybe someone has experience.

Feedback on FlyLog.io is welcomed, along with any other e-logbook providers!

Cheers!

Just heard that Crew lounge (formally MCC) has been swallowed into a larger company. I hope this isn't the precursor to losing another 'lifetime' subscription. Took a lot of pride swallowing and ignoring principles to buy a new lifetime subscription after the last change.

+1

I can't imagine they can reneague on the terms of our licence. Then again, I would've said the same thing last time - look what happened. Whatever the case may be, I'm sure we have at least a few months of runway ahead of us to see what the outcome will be.

Yes.. 'no immediate changes' is the official wording!

It’s being bought up by Aviobook. A large EFB solution supplier from Belgium as well. I would think that a large company like that would be careful of getting a bad reputation in the aviation community.

I was using Smart Logbook after flylog.io, it is pretty basic but you can export to PDF and CSV.

Do you know if there is still a way or any option to join the grandfathering program of CrewLounge Pilot Log? (Changing from MCC)

Send a message to CrewLounge and ask 🤷🏼‍♂️