TTN: re your Victor story, Newark Air Museum which is at the old WWII airfield of Winthorpe took delivery of a Vulcan in '83. The pilot, S/L Neil McDougall stopped 60 tons of tin triangle in 700 metres in a snowstorm...can't imagine that getting past the risk assessors these days.

Edit: I fly from Gamston/Retford, not commercially by the way, and am always surprised at the ease at which the bizjets land and slow down before the turn off, around 700 metres (long enough for a Vulcan then!). I'm pretty sure they get off the deck in less distance than I do in an Arrow as well.

Dan Air used to run a scheduled service with 146s' into Berne, which is about the same length as Blackbushe.
The '787 landing at Farnborough was using the '24 long' threshold giving an LDA of 2080m; hardly a short runway; the 'normal' 24 LDA is 1800m.

This is a cool video of a Citation M2 (C525) landing at a 3000' strip and using about half of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JE5XfBK6b0

Wot no heavy metal ... personal best a 744 MIA - LHR . full load , 20 tonnes freight , normal div fuel [ about and hour = 10 tonnes ] , dry , 5kt headwind , 27R , ATC asked for short stop .................
Yerssss , F40 , auto brake 3 , full reverse ..... normal touchdown point ... turned off at 1500 Metres .
Still had 2 autobrake 4 or full , and an early touchdown up our sleeves .... oh and reverse to a stop ... but Flight data recording ! ...

rgds condor .

Flaps 40 on a 744 :confused:

Cancelled, replied to wrong post.

That was the same guy who reckoned that he had take the Citation out of Castlebar on one engine.

KINT
 

Runway 4 at KINT. 3,938'

But made the mid field turnoff.

Boeing 737

KT DA and BY plus OM/MON B737-200 ADV
Mykonos island

from 1984 when it was very short and very windy - return flights always stopped at ATH to refuel and cater...
late inbound Mykonos jets had to be airborne by dusk as no lighting (always had Greek ATC delays then )

Dash 7 jet prop
landed on some dirt strip in Kenya one of the Masai mara camps
that was as long as my mums garden

A 604 into and out of Plymouth from Farnborough. Pilots refused to do it next time on a very wet day. Had to land at Exeter and get a car down and back. Boss not amused..!!

Did you fly for Debonair?

I was an unintentional passenger on a Debonair flight to EDLN in that period, in the sense that we were actually going from Copenhagen to Munich, but a detour was made to EDLN to pick up passengers from another Debonair BAe 146 which had gone tech there...

Very entertaining landing and takeoff!

A lot of smaller airports (even without with wet/cont. runways) will now be mostly unusable under part NCC with mandatory landing factors. Bizaviation serving local communities again...

There are no mandatory landing factors in Part-NCC, so this is not true.

989 metres in a Fokker 70 with passengers. Even then, we didn't use it all and came of very easily at a cross runway. But it was bloody windy!

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