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Broomstick Flier 15th Nov 2011 21:27


Hi guys, just an interested observer; the video posted by Broomstick Flier, the approach looks a bit low, I'm guessing this is deliberate to minimise landing distance?
Hi FS,

Indeed this approach was made more low than a regular one, but this airport is VFR/VMC only and thus descent profile can be adjusted. Having a clear path along the final approach helps as well.

On our "network" of airports SBJR was the only we limited to captain only operation, for daylight landings.

Fitter2 15th Nov 2011 21:48

About 300 metres of grass.

But it was this one........

http://i44.tinypic.com/2ef2qfq.jpg

AN2 Driver 17th Nov 2011 05:36

Not me but this one is fairly interesting.

Place called "Mountain Air" (runway 2875 ft, 4500 msl) in North Carolina

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Don't know why it comes up twice... mods feel free to edit.

Have seen some interesting landings with the SE210 Caravelle at Mykonos, then 1400 m long IIRR. We had several captains who managed to get off at the mid runway taxiway, so 700 m landing distance approximately.

hung start 17th Nov 2011 09:43

G,day Rossy
It was a private operation about 10 to 15 years ago . And your right not much there except good aboriginal art , if thats what your into .It was my job to fly not to buy

fairflyer 17th Nov 2011 18:23

The good old BAe 146-100 - in the early days there were some legendary demo flights. Stripped out, minimum fuel and just a couple of guys up front, the British Aerospace demo pilots used to do amazing things at Hatfield, showing off no doubt, but mind-blowing for a commercial jet airliner. Around the world they've landed on grass strips (just let some gas out of the tyres) and all types of rough unpaved strips. Could drift in to the Hatfield runway almost silently and stop as if a carrier landing - absalutely incedible - no thrust reverser noise. All those RJs and Avros out there today can still play those tricks - converted as a business jet, its just about the largest thing you could possibly get in (and out), legally and sensibly into your local golf club! Definately best aircraft for drug running and importation of illegal immigrants......nobody can hear you land on your privately prepared airstrip. Rather large radar signature though.

However, the De Havilland Dash-7 is also pretty incredible when it needs to be - aircraft carrier compatible!

Falcon 50 though best of all business jets, by a mile.

con-pilot 17th Nov 2011 20:57


Falcon 50 though best of all business jets, by a mile.
Agree, as one can buy an used* early Falcon 50 for as low as 1.8 million USD and can one stop London from any place in the US **(lower 48) on any day with half way decent weather in London and do it off a 5,000 foot runway, it is hard to beat.

Also it's about the only business jet that I know that one can put eight adult passengers (fill all the seats), baggage, full fuel and still be under or right at MGTOW. Now why anyone would want to have eight passengers in it for six hours or more, beats me. :p

* They are all used now of course, Dassualt stopped building them, a mistake I think, but what do I know, I'm just a retired pilot. ;)

** I made a few trips from the LA area, to Gander for fuel, then on to Luton in a straight 50. No problem. Even easier in the 50EX, which I saw one of those for sale last week for 8.3 million USD. (Oh, the straight 50 did have the 3-D engines, I'll admit.)

Wycombe 18th Nov 2011 07:56

Fairflyer, some "fairly" STOL 146-100 ops for you, at EGLK a few years ago...interesting that they had a "look see" first and the rwy looks pretty wet aswell....for those not familiar runway length is around 1200m.
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GT London 18th Nov 2011 09:04

.... and the ABJ can still do it just as affectively. Cello took me and 40 pax ito Zilina (1150m) last year with no drama's at all :D

Slightly fewer pax on this 787 at FAB, but still an impressive stop.

BBC News - Dreamliner's international debut

GT

Togue 26th Apr 2015 23:11

For me it is 4000' on a Hawker 400XP

winkwink 27th Apr 2015 03:10

2000 EASy into Blackbushe and Sywell full of pax. EGLK 4379 and Sywell 1200 metres. A doddle with right fuel and crew.
The same operation puts a Mustang into Denham, though I didn't fly that. Same thing. I also went into Blackbushe in a Lear 60 once, and the PF flat spotted a tyre. Seem to remember he had challenges towing aircraft too :)

NuName 27th Apr 2015 06:12

Citation Elstree :p

Booglebox 27th Apr 2015 08:42


Blackbushe in a Lear 60
With or without the brake mod? (either way, you're a brave man)

chevvron 27th Apr 2015 11:18

C525 and C550s are occasional users of Fairoaks (EGTF) at 813m.
LDAs 760m (06) and 800m(24). Years ago, a Falcon 90 was flight planned in but diverted elsewhere.

dirk85 27th Apr 2015 11:36

Citation XLS out of Elba island, LIRJ.

TheWrongTrousers 27th Apr 2015 12:20

Wow what a great pissing contest! And the best bit is recently I think there was an advert for a "short-field jet experience" and there was nothing but slagging off. Where were you guys then? :cool:

fatmanmedia 27th Apr 2015 18:34

I once flew a B747-8 on to a aircraft carrier in FSX, does that count :E

fats

Niner Lima Charlie 27th Apr 2015 22:14

DC-8 lands at Marble Mountain.
 
During the Vietnam war (1969) a Seaboard World Airways DC-8 landed by mistake, at night, on Marble Mountain runway which was only 3300 feet (1000 meters). The airplane was loaded with 219 troops and gear on the landing after a long flight from Hawaii.

When Seaboard World Flight Operations got the word on what happened, they contacted Douglas Aircraft for advice...Douglas said "take it apart and ship it home". After fuel and passengers were offloaded, the plane was towed to the north overrun and departed five hours after the landing incident. Used 2800 feet (853 meters) for take-off.


Guptar 1st May 2015 03:09

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYU7jv0G4ak

Citation X gets into a 915m strip with ease

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThoZNxy2JZk

This one is a bit tighter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwvTV_GDBEM

Qantas 747-400 into Wollongong, 30nm south of Sydney. 1500m runway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0f8srL_mq4

Same landing, cockpit video/

Nick 1 1st May 2015 14:11

http://youtu.be/c6Wr3ilAWpo

No evidence of landing ..or maybe yes...

Mogwi 1st May 2015 15:55

Shortest landing in a jet? Runway was 60 feet wide and 60 feet long. Didn't need to use it all though. Wonderful beast the Harrier!

Swing the lamp!


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