European corporate pilot pay...
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I guess Netjets may end up bieng the rule of thumb for companies when comparing salaries, and that is not a good thing as they seem to be on less than the average corporate or air taxi set up.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
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How much does a Citation Co-pilot earn?
Hi all,
Information on what the airlines pay (either Capt. or F/O) is very readily available; however it is not so easy to find out about the rates of pay in the elusive world of corporate jet flying.
Would someone be kind enough to provide me with a idea of what typically a co-pilot (and Captain) on say a Citation could expect to earn(?)
Thanks in advance,
Information on what the airlines pay (either Capt. or F/O) is very readily available; however it is not so easy to find out about the rates of pay in the elusive world of corporate jet flying.
Would someone be kind enough to provide me with a idea of what typically a co-pilot (and Captain) on say a Citation could expect to earn(?)
Thanks in advance,
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Take a look here: http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/oper...php?reg=Europe
You'll find more info than I can sum up in one posting.
Erik.
You'll find more info than I can sum up in one posting.
Erik.
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Yes thanks for that Erik. I am still hoping to hear from pilots actually doing the job - and sorry I should have said in the UK (I keep forgetting this is an international forum)
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Thank you. I am still hoping to hear from someone who flys a Citation (or similar) owned by a Private/Public Limited Company rather than the likes of NJE, LEA, Gama etc.. I guess the pay must be comparable but as I don't know and I would prefer not to guess...
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To be honest Oluf I don't have a specific type in mind I'm just trying to get a general idea.
Perhaps I ought to explain a little more. I am an experienced yet presently unemployed Turboprop Captain. I am becoming increasingly frustrated by my failing attempts to re-enter this market. My lack of "currency" is proving to be a major obstacle with the airlines. I cannot consider - or rather they won't consider me - the airline jet operators for the same reason plus the fact that (aged 48) I am now far too old anyway!
I know that the corporate jet world is notoriously difficult to break into and I am just trying to ascertain if this is an option to me both as a career move and financially. Whilst if I am honest the corporate world appeals to me far more than the regional airlines (my Air Taxi days of flying piston twins still remains the most fun flying ever) the fact remains that IF I can get a Direct Entry Turboprop Command then I am once again earning 45-50k a year as opposed to ???? as a co-pilot on a business jet?
Perhaps I ought to explain a little more. I am an experienced yet presently unemployed Turboprop Captain. I am becoming increasingly frustrated by my failing attempts to re-enter this market. My lack of "currency" is proving to be a major obstacle with the airlines. I cannot consider - or rather they won't consider me - the airline jet operators for the same reason plus the fact that (aged 48) I am now far too old anyway!
I know that the corporate jet world is notoriously difficult to break into and I am just trying to ascertain if this is an option to me both as a career move and financially. Whilst if I am honest the corporate world appeals to me far more than the regional airlines (my Air Taxi days of flying piston twins still remains the most fun flying ever) the fact remains that IF I can get a Direct Entry Turboprop Command then I am once again earning 45-50k a year as opposed to ???? as a co-pilot on a business jet?
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Netjets is recruiting for the RHS. You can live anywhere you like (gateaway list available on their site plus some new one). Money as stated above.
Potential LHS quite quick (Although not garanteed).
You have to be current though.
Otherwise salaries vary greatly with the operator... I have heard 60/70 Ks for a RHS on Falcon based in the SW.
Then you had the beech 400 which used to be based at LBA. Horror stories went round such as cleaning the bosses car, filing invoices whilst not flying. Somehow I doubt the money was great either.
I expect the better jobs will be quite low profile ones.
Potential LHS quite quick (Although not garanteed).
You have to be current though.
Otherwise salaries vary greatly with the operator... I have heard 60/70 Ks for a RHS on Falcon based in the SW.
Then you had the beech 400 which used to be based at LBA. Horror stories went round such as cleaning the bosses car, filing invoices whilst not flying. Somehow I doubt the money was great either.
I expect the better jobs will be quite low profile ones.
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Thanks AMEX, much appreciated.
I would dearly love to fly for Netjets but as you say you have to be current and that's my problem - I'm not.
60/70k for the RHS! Now that would be nice!
I would dearly love to fly for Netjets but as you say you have to be current and that's my problem - I'm not.
60/70k for the RHS! Now that would be nice!
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Hi Thunor,
F/O Euros 180/day freelance, or Euros 2000/month plus expenses depending on country as employed
CAP 180% that Rate. Little more on FAR 25. Including all recurrency checks on the company. Could be better, but met also much worse conditions. Usually u got to bring your first rating into the company.
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F/O Euros 180/day freelance, or Euros 2000/month plus expenses depending on country as employed
CAP 180% that Rate. Little more on FAR 25. Including all recurrency checks on the company. Could be better, but met also much worse conditions. Usually u got to bring your first rating into the company.
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Thunor, when you say you're not current what exactly do you mean?
Could you get up to speed enough for a sim ride? If so why not aply to NJE? You don't need a type rating, chances are if you had one you'd go to a different fleet anyway.
You could do worse.
Could you get up to speed enough for a sim ride? If so why not aply to NJE? You don't need a type rating, chances are if you had one you'd go to a different fleet anyway.
You could do worse.
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getting a break
Hi Thunor
I think the only way into biz jet flying is by way of recommendation, you have to get yourself known.
As for salarys, i think they vary considerably from Company to Company, but for say a small CitationJet, 40-55 for a Captain and 22-26 for a Co-Pilot.
Netjets maybe a good place to start, if you have 1500 hrs total, 500 multi, ATPL or frozen one and especially previous corporate experience. I have a few friends there and they are all very happy, there is also a fair amount on here about how the interviews are conducted, which all helps for a successful outcome.
Hope it helps.
Good luck with the job hunting.
By the way, how out of currency are you?
I think the only way into biz jet flying is by way of recommendation, you have to get yourself known.
As for salarys, i think they vary considerably from Company to Company, but for say a small CitationJet, 40-55 for a Captain and 22-26 for a Co-Pilot.
Netjets maybe a good place to start, if you have 1500 hrs total, 500 multi, ATPL or frozen one and especially previous corporate experience. I have a few friends there and they are all very happy, there is also a fair amount on here about how the interviews are conducted, which all helps for a successful outcome.
Hope it helps.
Good luck with the job hunting.
By the way, how out of currency are you?
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Pilot Pay on Citations
Pay for US Corporate Part 91 Capt should be about 55k+ to start- And will go up to as high as around 120k.
Copilots generaly get about 45k to start and probably cap at 70k
Contract captains can get from 350 to 1000 day
Copilots are 250day to about 500 day.
If the captain and copilots get less then this then they are being taken advantage of, have no quals or experience, or it's a part time 75 hr a year gig and the guy is doing it in a retirement thing.
SSG
Copilots generaly get about 45k to start and probably cap at 70k
Contract captains can get from 350 to 1000 day
Copilots are 250day to about 500 day.
If the captain and copilots get less then this then they are being taken advantage of, have no quals or experience, or it's a part time 75 hr a year gig and the guy is doing it in a retirement thing.
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Thanks for all the replies. Been away for a few days so not ignoring anyone. Will read, digest and reply as appropriate asap. In the meantime, What would you expect an Embraer Legacy co-pilot to be paid?
Originally Posted by Arkwright
LEA First Officers on the Excel earn between £30-£35k. 
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Days off?????
Originally Posted by Sepp
Can earn that - if they are happy to work days off, have their phones on 24/7, take everything that comes their way, and understand that wearing the right shoes is of utmost importance.
retrospectively, of course.........
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lol - it's funny 'cos it's true ... allegedly 