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Hi there,
Well, obvioulsy depends on a lot of factors. If you are rated and experienced expect around 5000/month. If not around 4000. Thatīs for Germany. Salaries are relatively low here in this sector.
Depends very much on the company and your negotiation skills.
Corporate seems to be better paid than charter in Germany.
Don't just look at the salary but also consider the total package including roster, benefits and most importantly the professionalsm and safety standards of the operation.
For Comparison: In NetJets a captain makes around 7900/month gross which works out to about 5500/month net in Germany. The roster is 6/5 and the other details are on the website.
There are however no direct entry commands available.
You can make more money alsewhere, especially outside of Germany and flying larger planes (GV, Global Express, BBJ, ACJ and so on.) But it will be dificult to find a higher paying Excel job at least in Germany.
Well, obvioulsy depends on a lot of factors. If you are rated and experienced expect around 5000/month. If not around 4000. Thatīs for Germany. Salaries are relatively low here in this sector.
Depends very much on the company and your negotiation skills.
Corporate seems to be better paid than charter in Germany.
Don't just look at the salary but also consider the total package including roster, benefits and most importantly the professionalsm and safety standards of the operation.
For Comparison: In NetJets a captain makes around 7900/month gross which works out to about 5500/month net in Germany. The roster is 6/5 and the other details are on the website.
There are however no direct entry commands available.
You can make more money alsewhere, especially outside of Germany and flying larger planes (GV, Global Express, BBJ, ACJ and so on.) But it will be dificult to find a higher paying Excel job at least in Germany.
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Corporate seems to be better paid than charter in Germany.
Definitely true.
Don't just look at the salary but also consider the total package including roster, benefits and most importantly the professionalism and safety standards of the operation.
wise words...I was with a southwestern german operator, paid not that bad, (5500 on a CIII - comparable to the 560XL) but all the rest...
they are changing the fleet from C650 to 560XL/XLS. Very high staff turnover - which tells you probably what you need to know.
Definitely true.
Don't just look at the salary but also consider the total package including roster, benefits and most importantly the professionalism and safety standards of the operation.
wise words...I was with a southwestern german operator, paid not that bad, (5500 on a CIII - comparable to the 560XL) but all the rest...
they are changing the fleet from C650 to 560XL/XLS. Very high staff turnover - which tells you probably what you need to know.
Last edited by His dudeness; 15th Jun 2007 at 16:56.
Imho you should not accept anything below 5k/month regardless if you are rated or not. And dont accept 24/7 stand-by! Looks like some companies have a hard time filling left seats. Dont sell yourself below your market value 
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i know of the new salary for a big austrian operator:
4500 14 times a year plus per diem.
Type Rating paid and direct command possibilities.
Roster is 24 on six off and 25 days of vacation. Based in VIE, Cannes or in a Baltic Country...
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4500 14 times a year plus per diem.
Type Rating paid and direct command possibilities.
Roster is 24 on six off and 25 days of vacation. Based in VIE, Cannes or in a Baltic Country...
Bye
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24 on and WHAT off?!?!? 6?! You are joking, right? Think I sent in an application to the same job, but got a "Thanks but no thanks" back. Now I know why.
As someone said earlier, donīt sell yourself for peanuts, there are better deals around.....
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As someone said earlier, donīt sell yourself for peanuts, there are better deals around.....
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Iharle - as I understand (from the initial post) it this would be for a left seat... I know for a fact that there are companies out there offering E 5000 + /month basic pay for experienced FOs...and that on A LOT better rosters then the 24/6 mentioned here. That should give you some idea of what to expect, ask for.
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I know for a fact that there are companies out there offering E 5000 + /month basic pay for experienced FOs...and that on A LOT better rosters then the 24/6 mentioned here. That should give you some idea of what to expect, ask for. /orange
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Hi, the market here in Germany is also improving!!
Last month there was an ad stating Euro 6500/month for a CJ PIC in Speyer, which might be handled with CPL/IR. Euro 5000/month seems to be the standard now, including 14/17 days of duty plus daily allowance, medical and required courses. Extra days vary between 150 und 250 / per day.
Roaster seems to be different everywhere you ask. IMHO if you do a good job and are standing firm you have more manoeuvring space to adjust your schedule.
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Last month there was an ad stating Euro 6500/month for a CJ PIC in Speyer, which might be handled with CPL/IR. Euro 5000/month seems to be the standard now, including 14/17 days of duty plus daily allowance, medical and required courses. Extra days vary between 150 und 250 / per day.
Roaster seems to be different everywhere you ask. IMHO if you do a good job and are standing firm you have more manoeuvring space to adjust your schedule.
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I fly a Hawker 850XP from the right hand seat, 2 weeks on / 2 off, 5.500 EUR a month. For freelance work I charge 400 EUR a day. I think that is about the maximum you can get for that kind of airplane.
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There's a UK operator paying Ģ400 per day for a C550 captain.
However the words 'touch', 'bargepole' and 'don't' spring to mind. Something like five full time captains fired or walked away in the last year. I hear they weren't sufficiently 'commercially minded' if you get my drift?
However the words 'touch', 'bargepole' and 'don't' spring to mind. Something like five full time captains fired or walked away in the last year. I hear they weren't sufficiently 'commercially minded' if you get my drift?
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Freelance contract??????????????????
Hey Guys,
Is any of you guys farmiliar with working "full-time Freelance".
I have been offered a position in Europe. Working under a sort kind of freelance contract for one company only, but still I will receive a minimum amount of days paid (even if I am not flying).
The contract seams very reasonable for me on the first view.
I need to arrange my own taxes, personal insurances, pension, etc, etc.
Are any of you working under such contract and how have you made your arrangements and in which country are you paying tax????????
I thank you guys for your kind attention and friendly reactions.
Pringlesking!!
Is any of you guys farmiliar with working "full-time Freelance".
I have been offered a position in Europe. Working under a sort kind of freelance contract for one company only, but still I will receive a minimum amount of days paid (even if I am not flying).
The contract seams very reasonable for me on the first view.
I need to arrange my own taxes, personal insurances, pension, etc, etc.
Are any of you working under such contract and how have you made your arrangements and in which country are you paying tax????????
I thank you guys for your kind attention and friendly reactions.
Pringlesking!!
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Freelance contracts such as you describe are quite common and although terms and conditions vary you are almost always liable for your own taxes etc.
Without knowing the specifics of your particular contract it would be difficult to comment further.
Without knowing the specifics of your particular contract it would be difficult to comment further.
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salary
Could anyone tell me what is the average salary of pilots (especially) FO's in business aviation in Europe. I would be very grateful if guys from Jet Alliance from Vienna and NetJet Europe would replay.
Secondly, is there are anyone who has dear to speak about pilots right in eastern Europe, which are often forced to fly under paid and under the rules of "take it or leave it".
Help guys.
Secondly, is there are anyone who has dear to speak about pilots right in eastern Europe, which are often forced to fly under paid and under the rules of "take it or leave it".
Help guys.
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HI don't want to sounds rude but have you ever done any search?
If I would want to know about the salary of Netjets Europe i would....umm...lets see...I got it MAYBE, but just MAYBE....I would go to Netjets website and then maybe click on career...read everything and maybe I will notice that itīs all there...written in black and white...clear as the sun
Option 2...maybe I would visit a site as ppjn where itīs written every single salary in the world
Option 3 if after i have done all this I still havenīt found what I am looking for I would ask
HOPE THIS HELP
Ps I though that having a little bit of initiative was quite an essential caratheristic in avaition
