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"FANS is acceptable"
Says who? FANS is only capable of linking with the ATSU's located adjacent to the Atlantic, in the rest of Europe you need ATN. We have just spent a lot of money retrofitting our aircraft with CPDLC only to discover that they can't communicate with European ATC.
Says who? FANS is only capable of linking with the ATSU's located adjacent to the Atlantic, in the rest of Europe you need ATN. We have just spent a lot of money retrofitting our aircraft with CPDLC only to discover that they can't communicate with European ATC.
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The EC gives us an opportunity to share our views on the draft of the exemptions:
EC "better regulations"
The draft is on there as well. The feedback period ends on March 7th.
The original 29/2009 can be found here:
29/2009
And implementing rule 2015/310 is here:
2015/310
For us (my operator), the crucial sentence is:
Thats why we need to give a positive feedback, vs. a possible negative one by individual retrofitters etc.
EC "better regulations"
The draft is on there as well. The feedback period ends on March 7th.
The original 29/2009 can be found here:
29/2009
And implementing rule 2015/310 is here:
2015/310
For us (my operator), the crucial sentence is:
This Commission’s proposal includes the (EBAA request for) exemptions for aircraft which have a certified maximum seating capacity of 19 passengers or less and a MTOM of 45359 Kg (100000 lbs) or less, with a first individual certificate of airworthiness issued before 5 February 2020;
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New regs out:
2019/1170
2019/1170
Regulation (EC) No 29/2009 is amended as follows
1)
In Article 3, paragraph 3 is replaced by the following:
‘3. Paragraph 2 shall not apply toa)
aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued before 1 January 1995;
(b)
aircraft which have an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued before 31 December 2003 and which will cease operation in the airspace referred to in paragraph 3 of Article 1 before 31 December 2022;
(c)
aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued before 1 January 2018 and fitted prior to this date with data link equipment compliant with the requirements of one of the Eurocae documents specified in point 10 of Annex III;
(d)
aircraft which have a certified maximum seating capacity of 19 passengers or less and a maximum certified take-off mass of 45 359 Kg (100 000 lbs) or less and with a first individual certificate of airworthiness issued before 5 February 2020;
(e)
State aircraft;
(f)
aircraft flying in the airspace referred to in paragraph 3 of Article 1 for testing, delivery or for maintenance purposes or with data link constituents temporarily inoperative under conditions specified in the applicable minimum equipment list required by point 1 of Annex III.’
(2)
in paragraphs 1, 2 and 3 of Article 6, references to Article 3(2) and 3(3) are replaced by references to Article 3(2);
(3)
in paragraphs 1, 2 and 3 of Article 8, references to Article 3(5) are replaced by references to Article 3(4);
(4)
in Article 14, paragraph 2, ‘Article 5(3) of Regulation (EC) No 549/2004’ is replaced by ‘Article 127(3) of Regulation (EU) 2018/1139’;
(5)
in Article 14, paragraph 3 is replaced by the following:
‘3. The criteria referred to in paragraph 1 shall be the followinga)
aircraft types/models combinations, reaching the end of their production life and being produced in limited numbers; and
(b)
aircraft types/models combinations for which re-engineering costs required would be disproportionate due to old design.’;
1)In Article 3, paragraph 3 is replaced by the following:
‘3. Paragraph 2 shall not apply to
a)aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued before 1 January 1995;
(b)
aircraft which have an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued before 31 December 2003 and which will cease operation in the airspace referred to in paragraph 3 of Article 1 before 31 December 2022;
(c)
aircraft with an individual certificate of airworthiness first issued before 1 January 2018 and fitted prior to this date with data link equipment compliant with the requirements of one of the Eurocae documents specified in point 10 of Annex III;
(d)
aircraft which have a certified maximum seating capacity of 19 passengers or less and a maximum certified take-off mass of 45 359 Kg (100 000 lbs) or less and with a first individual certificate of airworthiness issued before 5 February 2020;
(e)
State aircraft;
(f)
aircraft flying in the airspace referred to in paragraph 3 of Article 1 for testing, delivery or for maintenance purposes or with data link constituents temporarily inoperative under conditions specified in the applicable minimum equipment list required by point 1 of Annex III.’
(2)
in paragraphs 1, 2 and 3 of Article 6, references to Article 3(2) and 3(3) are replaced by references to Article 3(2);
(3)
in paragraphs 1, 2 and 3 of Article 8, references to Article 3(5) are replaced by references to Article 3(4);
(4)
in Article 14, paragraph 2, ‘Article 5(3) of Regulation (EC) No 549/2004’ is replaced by ‘Article 127(3) of Regulation (EU) 2018/1139’;
(5)
in Article 14, paragraph 3 is replaced by the following:
‘3. The criteria referred to in paragraph 1 shall be the following
a)aircraft types/models combinations, reaching the end of their production life and being produced in limited numbers; and
(b)
aircraft types/models combinations for which re-engineering costs required would be disproportionate due to old design.’;
