Private jet crashed at Moscow Airport Vnukovo: 4 killed
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Do they have ground radar there?
http://rt.com/news/197700-total-plane-crash-driver/
“Some of the main theories being investigated at this time are a mistake by air traffic control and the actions of the snowplow driver. Bad weather conditions and the possibility of a mistake by the pilot will also be considered”
There are several companies that provide positional maps for powered ground equipment. They use GPS to show position on the airport and also show movement. The version I know also gives details of type of equipment, drivers name etc etc.
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Why are those of us who frequent this awful place not surprised?
BTW, you should have been there 20+ years ago, back then it really was awful...
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How very convenient for the Russian authorities to have discovered so quickly that the snow plough driver was drunk!
Report concluded............some poor lamb has been thrown to slaughter to cover up the numerous deficiencies at that dump of an airpport!
Report concluded............some poor lamb has been thrown to slaughter to cover up the numerous deficiencies at that dump of an airpport!
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Information of MAK (in Russian):
Falcon 50EX F-GLSA 20.10.2014
FDR and CVR are already in their possession and currently read out. French investigators are on the way and will join the investigation.
Fields of enquiry are (apart from the recorders): ground control and tower recordings, CCTV recordings, radar recordings, weather conditions, condition of aircraft (before and after crash), actions of airport staff, controllers, pilots.
Falcon 50EX F-GLSA 20.10.2014
FDR and CVR are already in their possession and currently read out. French investigators are on the way and will join the investigation.
Fields of enquiry are (apart from the recorders): ground control and tower recordings, CCTV recordings, radar recordings, weather conditions, condition of aircraft (before and after crash), actions of airport staff, controllers, pilots.
How very convenient for the Russian authorities to have discovered so quickly that the snow plough driver was drunk!
Report concluded............some poor lamb has been thrown to slaughter to cover up the numerous deficiencies at that dump of an airport!
Report concluded............some poor lamb has been thrown to slaughter to cover up the numerous deficiencies at that dump of an airport!
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BTW, you should have been there 20+ years ago, back then it really was awful...
Too early to speculate, but knowing the place I wouldn't be surprised if the reason for this will be established as a failure of one single person. In Russia, it can never be an organization or larger group that takes responsibility for a failure of any kind.
Bear that in mind and be careful out there. Winter and bad weather are coming.
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@deefer dog:
Typical conspiracy theory !
It is a fact that test results for alcohol intoxication of survivors who played a role in an accident are quickly available.
This intoxication may or may not be a causal factor.
Typical conspiracy theory !
It is a fact that test results for alcohol intoxication of survivors who played a role in an accident are quickly available.
This intoxication may or may not be a causal factor.
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Testing the guy who cleared the plow driver out onto the runway would be another thing to do. As well as the testing those who employed and trained them all. Now THAT would be sobering for some who have never been there.
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Russian prosecutors claim the driver of the snowplow which crashed with Total CEO Christophe de Margerie’s jet was drunk. His lawyer, however, says he was completely sober, due to a heart condition preventing him from drinking.
“My client is suffering from an acute heart condition; he does not drink at all and his relatives and friends can testify to that,” Aleksandr Karabanov, the lawyer, said.
“He was sober at the time of the crash,” he also said, adding that a number of lawyers will be involved in Martynenkov’s defense. “We don’t want the blame for the accident to fall on an ordinary man,” he added.
Karabanov also made clear that he will insist on an independent expertise to determine the presence of alcohol in his client's bloodstream.
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BBC quoting the Govt - sounds like a fair summary of the various factors they need to look at
Russia's emergencies ministry said in a statement the accident had involved a Falcon-50 plane shortly before midnight local time (20:00 GMT) on Monday.
"Among the chief versions for what happened, investigators are looking at a mistake by the air traffic controllers and the actions of the driver of the snow plough. Apart from that, they will also check the versions of poor weather conditions and mistake by the crew," said Russia's Investigative Committee, a federal agency that answers to President Putin.
"At the current time, it has already been established that the driver of the snow plough was drunk."
Pictures from the scene show the driver looking shocked, but walking unaided and without any obvious serious injury.
Reports say the visibility at airport was 350m (1,150ft
Russia's emergencies ministry said in a statement the accident had involved a Falcon-50 plane shortly before midnight local time (20:00 GMT) on Monday.
"Among the chief versions for what happened, investigators are looking at a mistake by the air traffic controllers and the actions of the driver of the snow plough. Apart from that, they will also check the versions of poor weather conditions and mistake by the crew," said Russia's Investigative Committee, a federal agency that answers to President Putin.
"At the current time, it has already been established that the driver of the snow plough was drunk."
Pictures from the scene show the driver looking shocked, but walking unaided and without any obvious serious injury.
Reports say the visibility at airport was 350m (1,150ft
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Le Figaro:
EN DIRECT - Mort de Margerie : la France perd «un grand capitaine d'industrie»
EN DIRECT - Mort de Margerie : la France perd «un grand capitaine d'industrie»
A "criminal negligence" in causing the accident
The plane crash in which perished the head of French oil giant Total, Christophe de Margerie, the Vnokouvo Moscow airport is due to "criminal negligence" in the direction of the airport, said Tuesday the committee Russian investigation.
"This is not a tragic set of circumstances, but criminal negligence of officials" failed to properly coordinate the work of their employees, the committee said, adding that some members of the management Vnukovo who might try to obstruct the investigation would soon be "suspended from duty."
The plane crash in which perished the head of French oil giant Total, Christophe de Margerie, the Vnokouvo Moscow airport is due to "criminal negligence" in the direction of the airport, said Tuesday the committee Russian investigation.
"This is not a tragic set of circumstances, but criminal negligence of officials" failed to properly coordinate the work of their employees, the committee said, adding that some members of the management Vnukovo who might try to obstruct the investigation would soon be "suspended from duty."
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And the press just keep on giving (or grasping at straws).
Here RT, that well known yet hardly respected Russian broadcaster, says ... well look at the graphic at 3'52".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmkH3h-tbGk
If I was the owner of this 900, I'd be making a beeline for my rolladeck and 'L' for lawyer ...
Here RT, that well known yet hardly respected Russian broadcaster, says ... well look at the graphic at 3'52".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmkH3h-tbGk
If I was the owner of this 900, I'd be making a beeline for my rolladeck and 'L' for lawyer ...
