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Imperial Jet and Jet AIr not doing tyre pressure check - see tech logs :(
Thanks guys, and thank for the PM over help for jobs! Imperial Jet tell the crew that they dont need to do tire pressure checks, they are going to have an incident soon and I think everyone knows hows S$$T this AOC is! this monkey guy tries to put water up hill - they ignore people with thozands of hours and put a money as a accountable managers in place! 
soon the LBA will sort this out then we all lose a job 
they will keep pushing the illegalss until it is shut down and they already lost the Lebanon AOC
soon the LBA will sort this out then we all lose a job they will keep pushing the illegalss until it is shut down and they already lost the Lebanon AOC
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paybeforefly: wrong information
Dear all,
My name is Martin Spiegl and I am writing to you in my capacity as a Managing Director of Jetair Flug GmbH.
Very few members of this forum are trying to defame Jetair and ImperialJet with incorrect information.
Let me respond to the allegations of the user paybeforefly and shipshape79Charlie:
- "Tire Pressure check is not done on the Learjet fleet." Firstly, I am wondering why paybeforefly complains about Learjet issues, when he is saying in another thread that he is on the Challenger fleet. Secondly, and much more important, we are complying with the respective AD, like any other operator does. The required documentation is regularly reviewed by the CAMO organisation and audited by the German Civil Aviation during their normal audits.
- „ImperialJet lost their AOC in Lebanon“ ImperialJets AOC is valid, the highest court of Lebanon has ruled that it is valid. It is true, that there have been attempts to revoke this AOC,
But the highest Lebanese court has acknowledged in their decision that this was done wrongfully by the CAA and in order to give commercial advantage to other favored operator, which are owned by persons trying to influence politics and its administration.
- “No Fuel Cards” All of our Aircrafts are equipped with Shell, AirBP, Petrofer, Nautilus and ExxonMobil Fuel carnets. I think this is more than the average Businessjet is equipped with.
- “Flying outside ICAO regions” Jetair is flying in the regions EUR, AFI, MID/ASIA. We have not conducted any flight outside the approved regions, I am wondering how paybeforefly could keep such flightlogs as evidence.
- “Not getting paid” Everybody gets paid for his work and services. Every supplier and every employee. Anybody who feels that he didn’t got paid in the past and there is something owed to him, he should contact me via email or in this forum, but with full facts and full name. I am ready to discuss any issue in public, I think that this makes it clear once more, how confident we are that everybody is paid what is owed to him.
- “Flying with no duty time regulation” Jetair has been audited by the LBA (German Civil Aviation Authority) in March 2011 for the renewal of the AOC, which was done successfully without limitations. Beginning of August 2011, we have hosted the Civil Aviation inspectors for an audit. Flight duty time limitations have been checked during this visit aswell. Being responsible at the end, I am very confident, that everything is in order with the Flight duty time limitations.
Let me close this issue with the invitation, that whoever feels for, can contact me anytime. My email address is martin.spiegl@imperial-jet.
Lets hope that I have been able to clear these issues with the major part of this forum, however, I am not sure my answers will fly on a fertile grounds with users like Paybeforefly and ShipshapeCharlie.
Brgds,
Martin Spiegl
My name is Martin Spiegl and I am writing to you in my capacity as a Managing Director of Jetair Flug GmbH.
Very few members of this forum are trying to defame Jetair and ImperialJet with incorrect information.
Let me respond to the allegations of the user paybeforefly and shipshape79Charlie:
- "Tire Pressure check is not done on the Learjet fleet." Firstly, I am wondering why paybeforefly complains about Learjet issues, when he is saying in another thread that he is on the Challenger fleet. Secondly, and much more important, we are complying with the respective AD, like any other operator does. The required documentation is regularly reviewed by the CAMO organisation and audited by the German Civil Aviation during their normal audits.
- „ImperialJet lost their AOC in Lebanon“ ImperialJets AOC is valid, the highest court of Lebanon has ruled that it is valid. It is true, that there have been attempts to revoke this AOC,
But the highest Lebanese court has acknowledged in their decision that this was done wrongfully by the CAA and in order to give commercial advantage to other favored operator, which are owned by persons trying to influence politics and its administration.
- “No Fuel Cards” All of our Aircrafts are equipped with Shell, AirBP, Petrofer, Nautilus and ExxonMobil Fuel carnets. I think this is more than the average Businessjet is equipped with.
- “Flying outside ICAO regions” Jetair is flying in the regions EUR, AFI, MID/ASIA. We have not conducted any flight outside the approved regions, I am wondering how paybeforefly could keep such flightlogs as evidence.
- “Not getting paid” Everybody gets paid for his work and services. Every supplier and every employee. Anybody who feels that he didn’t got paid in the past and there is something owed to him, he should contact me via email or in this forum, but with full facts and full name. I am ready to discuss any issue in public, I think that this makes it clear once more, how confident we are that everybody is paid what is owed to him.
- “Flying with no duty time regulation” Jetair has been audited by the LBA (German Civil Aviation Authority) in March 2011 for the renewal of the AOC, which was done successfully without limitations. Beginning of August 2011, we have hosted the Civil Aviation inspectors for an audit. Flight duty time limitations have been checked during this visit aswell. Being responsible at the end, I am very confident, that everything is in order with the Flight duty time limitations.
Let me close this issue with the invitation, that whoever feels for, can contact me anytime. My email address is martin.spiegl@imperial-jet.
Lets hope that I have been able to clear these issues with the major part of this forum, however, I am not sure my answers will fly on a fertile grounds with users like Paybeforefly and ShipshapeCharlie.
Brgds,
Martin Spiegl
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sims are only sims
Westhawk: Please note that most sims are only programmed for the data point experienced by the flight test department, combined by the remained of the general test data.
As the situation that you mention has probably not been flight tested, the data points are only guestimates.
I have played with Gulfstream sims, and conducted several out of the box procedures. (experiments).
glf
As the situation that you mention has probably not been flight tested, the data points are only guestimates.
I have played with Gulfstream sims, and conducted several out of the box procedures. (experiments).
glf
Gulfstreamaviator:
Yes, that's understood. You're correct to warn against placing too much faith in simulation. Especially when performance is extrapolated to ranges outside of the actual data points used to program the simulator, inaccuracies in the "modeled" flight parameters should be assumed to exist. For instance, airplane behavior beyond the critical AOA would be one example of unknown extrapolated data accuracy.
We discussed that at the time and agreed that this would not be a significant factor in whether or not we could re-create the sequence of events accurately enough for learning purposes as we executed variations on the crew response and systems behavior based upon the factual data then available to Bombardier. Some fellows from engineering, maintenance training and simulation were interested too. From what I heard later, Bombardier did a full-on re-creation of the accident sequence with the NTSB as a part of the investigation of the accident. I'm sure they'd done more research and testing by then. Yet it's my understanding that those later simulations produced outcomes which were similar to ours. The final report conclusions seem to agree for the most part. I think any differences are most likely the result of different assumptions regarding crew actions rather than simulation error.
In any case, thanks for bringing it up.
It was a most interesting learning experience for me. I'd been flying the plane for awhile, but I knew a whole lot more about operating the plane AND the simulator after participating in this unique exercise. Many thanks to the staff at Bombardier/DFW.
westhawk
Yes, that's understood. You're correct to warn against placing too much faith in simulation. Especially when performance is extrapolated to ranges outside of the actual data points used to program the simulator, inaccuracies in the "modeled" flight parameters should be assumed to exist. For instance, airplane behavior beyond the critical AOA would be one example of unknown extrapolated data accuracy.
We discussed that at the time and agreed that this would not be a significant factor in whether or not we could re-create the sequence of events accurately enough for learning purposes as we executed variations on the crew response and systems behavior based upon the factual data then available to Bombardier. Some fellows from engineering, maintenance training and simulation were interested too. From what I heard later, Bombardier did a full-on re-creation of the accident sequence with the NTSB as a part of the investigation of the accident. I'm sure they'd done more research and testing by then. Yet it's my understanding that those later simulations produced outcomes which were similar to ours. The final report conclusions seem to agree for the most part. I think any differences are most likely the result of different assumptions regarding crew actions rather than simulation error.
In any case, thanks for bringing it up.
It was a most interesting learning experience for me. I'd been flying the plane for awhile, but I knew a whole lot more about operating the plane AND the simulator after participating in this unique exercise. Many thanks to the staff at Bombardier/DFW.westhawk
