Directfly UK / Paul Crowther?
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perhaps you should, if not money the mid-blue Masseratti will suffice wouldnt it ?? take mates, they can all have some of his newly earned fortune from the latest mug that hasnt heard of him perhaps, or sup coffee with his wife, she is the new entrepeneur in the house, gather she is a shareholder in the new AVTECH nowadays, goodness they are a go-ahead couple arent they,
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The net is closing in
Just came across this website
Claims against Paul Crowther
May get more hits than Susan Boyle's You Tube video!
I watch this space with interest.
Claims against Paul Crowther
May get more hits than Susan Boyle's You Tube video!
I watch this space with interest.
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I don't wish to make light of those who are out of pocket to this guy as that’s a very serious issue but the above post and associated website is one of the funniest things I've seen in ages.
What a great way to consolidate information and claimants. Bravo to those behind it, hopefully it will lead to more truth coming out.
What a great way to consolidate information and claimants. Bravo to those behind it, hopefully it will lead to more truth coming out.
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Interesting
A quick search of paulcrowther.co.uk reveals that the website was registered by a certain individual that was an original investor in Planechartering, who I assume lost a lot of money when the it went wrong with Club328. Lets hope he takes him to the cleaners.!
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I wonder what this Paul Crowther made different to the other dozens of airlines folded in the UK in the last couple of months ? Why there is nothing about the founders of these companies written or is it that they paid the last salary before the company collapsed ? Is there any evidence that Mr Paul Crowther personally stole any money or is it just that he took the **** with 80 Mio. pound in arreas and tried to rescue it ? I even heard that loyal employees of BA forget about one months salary to help the company, was there anything like this in Club 328 ? What does this all has to do with Direct Fly ?
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Originally Posted by dl777jet
I wonder.........Is there any evidence that Mr Paul Crowther personally stole any money or is it just that he took the **** with 80 Mio. pound in arreas and tried to rescue it ?
Does any one know if Directfly/Crowther have any plans relating to Mustangs? I only ask because elsewhere dl777jet wrote that a friend had bought one and was looking to ferry it to Europe. Any connection?
Merely curious
Me too... and I also wonder whether night follows day... 
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Would be careful what to write here. After reading it I called my friend flying for them in Poland and he gave me number of the president there. According to the accountable manager there are no issues with anything like this, he asked me where I got such information and gave him this website adress. He said that he will take legal action against it. I asked also if he know PC and he said that it is one of his business partners. Dont wanted to ask more because probably he can read.
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wow, such venom
This entire thread seems to be based around only 5 or so idiots who have an axe to grind with Paul Crowther. It is good to see that healthy competition still breeds such jealousy! The fact that PC cannot take action for Slander as PPrune protects users names and seems to allow anyone to say just about anything they want without fear of retribution, seems to make the perfect venue for cowards to get together and slate an individual. Cowards.
However, When the rest of you readers realise that the people involved in this thread are..........(names deleted to avoid accusations of slander).......it does not take much to put 2 and 2 together. This should be renamed the "personal slander" thread. It has no basis in fact as usual.
From what I heard........(content edited to remove baseless rumours)......24/7 Jet suiing Xlcusive for pulling their AOC cover last year without notice. Go Mr Mulligan! Mind you, Loveridge has been bust a few times before, so I guess it wont make much difference, he will just Phonenix the business again. I wonder if they will still fly that 15,000+ hour heap of junk Ciation G-JMDW or give to to the scrap man this time on safety grounds?
In the meantime, this comment on the Direct Fly AOC appears to be rumour from .......(content edited to avoid...you get the idea).......... They hate good competition! Turns out that Direct Fly flight Ops manager was an ex Club 328 guy. He was fired this morning, so I wonder where this new rubbish came from!
It's good to see Direct fly doing so well and flying every day... someone had to go with an EU ops based company and beat the CAA charges. Well done to them. Thge Polish have some good aviation guys. A great concept. I see from CFMU that things are runing well and the my broker freinds say that they have a great service.
Both Speedyflyer's posts were removed for editing purposes. Now reinstated to preserve continuity of this thread (minus comments that contravene PPRuNe's T&C's).
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However, When the rest of you readers realise that the people involved in this thread are..........(names deleted to avoid accusations of slander).......it does not take much to put 2 and 2 together. This should be renamed the "personal slander" thread. It has no basis in fact as usual.
From what I heard........(content edited to remove baseless rumours)......24/7 Jet suiing Xlcusive for pulling their AOC cover last year without notice. Go Mr Mulligan! Mind you, Loveridge has been bust a few times before, so I guess it wont make much difference, he will just Phonenix the business again. I wonder if they will still fly that 15,000+ hour heap of junk Ciation G-JMDW or give to to the scrap man this time on safety grounds?
In the meantime, this comment on the Direct Fly AOC appears to be rumour from .......(content edited to avoid...you get the idea).......... They hate good competition! Turns out that Direct Fly flight Ops manager was an ex Club 328 guy. He was fired this morning, so I wonder where this new rubbish came from!
It's good to see Direct fly doing so well and flying every day... someone had to go with an EU ops based company and beat the CAA charges. Well done to them. Thge Polish have some good aviation guys. A great concept. I see from CFMU that things are runing well and the my broker freinds say that they have a great service.
Both Speedyflyer's posts were removed for editing purposes. Now reinstated to preserve continuity of this thread (minus comments that contravene PPRuNe's T&C's).
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Karl watkin
That link that goes to the illegal slander website at paulcrowther dot co dot uk is disgusting. Using someones personal name to create a site like that! this was created by Karl Watkin, an investor who purchased a aircraft that was leased into Club 328 and has lost his investment, but unlile all the other investors is behaving like a spoilt child and trying to blame it all on one individual, namely PC.
If you want to see a little more about the real nature of a man who takes other peoples money and then screws them have a look at this:
British dot-com executive returns with vegetable-oil firm. | Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News | Find Articles at BNET
after all - Karl pocketed over £3.5M GBP after investing only 30K and then closing the company after a total flop. Not a bad return for not much better than theft!
Karl Watkin and his wife Jill are just bitter like everyone else at Club 328. ............edited, sailing really close to the wind..........
Some just get on with their lives though. to learn the truth about club 328 just read the last posting at http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...rouble-15.html and look at the links. PC wast just the "last man standing" and seems to make a fair target because of it.
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If you want to see a little more about the real nature of a man who takes other peoples money and then screws them have a look at this:
British dot-com executive returns with vegetable-oil firm. | Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News | Find Articles at BNET
after all - Karl pocketed over £3.5M GBP after investing only 30K and then closing the company after a total flop. Not a bad return for not much better than theft!
Karl Watkin and his wife Jill are just bitter like everyone else at Club 328. ............edited, sailing really close to the wind..........
Some just get on with their lives though. to learn the truth about club 328 just read the last posting at http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...rouble-15.html and look at the links. PC wast just the "last man standing" and seems to make a fair target because of it.
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Speedyflyer.
Once again you leap to Crowther's defense. This time with two posts* each containing a remarkable amount of detail. You cry "slander!" yet name almost half a dozen people yourself with some fairly outrageous accusations. You broke my irony-o-meter and I demand a new one.
Shall we comment on your........sorry, Paul Crowther's, attempt to operate a certain Citation which had been modified for a higher MLW but for which the paperwork had not been completed? I'm sure it was only a one-off incident but the (then) AOC holder was informed by the crew. Oh, and the flight wasn't conducted overweight but only because the crew stood their ground. Oddly enough much in the same way another operator you cheered for in your now deleted posts used to try it on. No wonder you're.......ooops, there I go again, Crowther's on his side.
Speedyflyer, you make the mistake of judging people here by your own standards but few of us are that thick.
*Edit. Both Speedyflyer's posts disappeared.
Once again you leap to Crowther's defense. This time with two posts* each containing a remarkable amount of detail. You cry "slander!" yet name almost half a dozen people yourself with some fairly outrageous accusations. You broke my irony-o-meter and I demand a new one.
Shall we comment on your........sorry, Paul Crowther's, attempt to operate a certain Citation which had been modified for a higher MLW but for which the paperwork had not been completed? I'm sure it was only a one-off incident but the (then) AOC holder was informed by the crew. Oh, and the flight wasn't conducted overweight but only because the crew stood their ground. Oddly enough much in the same way another operator you cheered for in your now deleted posts used to try it on. No wonder you're.......ooops, there I go again, Crowther's on his side.
Speedyflyer, you make the mistake of judging people here by your own standards but few of us are that thick.
*Edit. Both Speedyflyer's posts disappeared.
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Follow the link from Speedyflyer's post......
.............and read his latest ramblings 
That is sooooooooo funny. Any last vestige of the pretence of Speedyflyer being anyone else other than PC just went out the window. So wound up he's not even finishing his sentences!
Originally Posted by Speedyflyer
Crowther
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Actually, Crowther helped in the making of the program as I heard it. The facts, not the rumours, tell the real story. Crowther bought the Club 328 company in it's last death throws. Loosing 200K a month with pilots that didnt fly and management that didnt work or know what was going on! The only crtiscim Crowther should accept is that if you play with fire, you may get burned. He gambled on buying the company for it's AoC and clearly didnt know what he was getting into. He, and everyone else lost a fortune.
In the absence of anyone else, he makes a pretty good scapegoat though!
As you say, I the investigation is continuing. Crowther is
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Actually, Crowther helped in the making of the program as I heard it. The facts, not the rumours, tell the real story. Crowther bought the Club 328 company in it's last death throws. Loosing 200K a month with pilots that didnt fly and management that didnt work or know what was going on! The only crtiscim Crowther should accept is that if you play with fire, you may get burned. He gambled on buying the company for it's AoC and clearly didnt know what he was getting into. He, and everyone else lost a fortune.
In the absence of anyone else, he makes a pretty good scapegoat though!
As you say, I the investigation is continuing. Crowther is
That is sooooooooo funny. Any last vestige of the pretence of Speedyflyer being anyone else other than PC just went out the window. So wound up he's not even finishing his sentences!
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CFMU and Speedyflyer
Looked on CFMU, none of Direct Fly's aircraft feature today. So they must be flying around in a smokescreen, probably to avoid Eurocontrol charges.
If Speedyflyer is not Mr Paul Crowther I will eat my wings!
Someone prove me wrong, I am starving!
If Speedyflyer is not Mr Paul Crowther I will eat my wings!
Someone prove me wrong, I am starving!
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Selective editing
Funny - yes, I suppose you would think so unless you were Paul Crowther. It seems to be OK to not only post his name right accorss this Thread, but you cant post anyones name from Exclsuive jet like the real names of Yorskshre Airways, Oooahh and Pummet. Duck Rogers seems to thanks that would be Slander, so has removed it. But it is fine to leave Paul Crowther's name up there in lights where he cant defend it.
Duck, do you work for Xclusive Jet as well?
Duck, do you work for Xclusive Jet as well?
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I wouldn't normally become embroiled in a thread but to keep things clear I'll make this one exception.
No, I don't work for Xclusive.
The difference between what has been posted here about Paul Crowther and what you (Speedyflyer) wrote about others is that the former is in the public domain whereas your accusations about people's private lives is not. Feel free to post their names, just be careful what you post with them. You also sought to undermine an apparently stable company with an unsubstantiated comment about them, one that could have serious knock-on effects for the owners and employees particularly in the current climate. Your posts were a completely different prospect to discussing the failure of the ex-328 Jet.
If it proves to be true then we'll all get to know about it and the subject will be allowed on here, until then spiteful retaliatory posts will continue to be deleted.
Duck
No, I don't work for Xclusive.
The difference between what has been posted here about Paul Crowther and what you (Speedyflyer) wrote about others is that the former is in the public domain whereas your accusations about people's private lives is not. Feel free to post their names, just be careful what you post with them. You also sought to undermine an apparently stable company with an unsubstantiated comment about them, one that could have serious knock-on effects for the owners and employees particularly in the current climate. Your posts were a completely different prospect to discussing the failure of the ex-328 Jet.
If it proves to be true then we'll all get to know about it and the subject will be allowed on here, until then spiteful retaliatory posts will continue to be deleted.
Duck