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Old 30th Mar 2008, 15:51
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Is there another Farnborough where it's shown on the BBC's map (ie NE of Biggin Hill) or have the BBC simply moved it because they feel that since it's aviation Farnborough needs to be close by?
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 15:53
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Capot... Farnborough KENT is precisely where it is shown - to the NE of Biggin Hill...
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 15:55
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The BBC heli has just departed (15:50Z) to go and have a look, so hopefully we'll get some airborne visuals on the tail No soon.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 15:57
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Farnborough

There are 2 Farnboroughs in S UK - 1 in Kent, near the Bromley/Biggin Hill area, the other in Hampshire, where the Air Show is held. It appears that the media did get this one right!
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 16:03
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Just heard an eye witness on the news - "It was banking in a stall position"....
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 16:08
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I agree with poss, not right to jump to conclusions on tail no whilst details are still sketchy. If any friends or family of crew or pax of VPBGE were to read these initial posts, would not be nice for them reading that the aircraft had gone down when in fact it was somewhere over France perfectly intact.

However, like any air crash, awful to see. Looking at where it crashed (in romsley close, farnborough), if it was taking off, did not get far at all out of 21.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 16:18
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Lady Eye witness on the Phone to BBC ,
'Sometimes i hear the planes coming to land and they cut the engine off , And they start it again, You can hear the engine going put..put..put - and the flight path is on the way to school - we can't have flight paths over schools '


My thoughts with the Family of the people onboard
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 16:20
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Very sad for all involved.

When will both the Beeb and Sky News realise that Chris "Erm.erm" Yates knows naff all and bluffs his way through every interview for which he is hired as an industry expert.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 16:35
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Cannot believe that someone would be stupid enough to put a reg.up so soon. A little bit of thought towards the next of kin please.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 16:40
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Tragic news for all involved..

A real shame that the best the fools on sky/beeb can do is ask how many children were playing nearby and how many houses there are in the street etc.. jeeeesus it makes me so mad.

People have lost their lives!!

RIP

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Old 30th Mar 2008, 16:43
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I agree with the lack of sensitivity, however it doesnt stop there, maybe Sky News should not have broadcasted a "local resident who lives 3 mins from the crash site" they interviewed about 45 mins ago who....wait for it..... "clearly saw the terror on the faces of the passengers at the aircraft windows".
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 16:48
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....and while we're on the subject of Sky News

The neighbour that, perhaps inadvertantly, mentioned the first name of the lady living in the badly damaged house. The reporter then, rather sneakily said "can you just remind me of their names" - and the lady then gave out first names, surname, the fact that the lady comes back from holiday today and the man tomorrow.......

I hope no identity theft practitioners are listening.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 16:50
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One witness has just stated he "thought at first it may have been a flying bomb"???????
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 16:54
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I don't agree with the likes of the busy bodies getting involved and making stories that could be disrespectful to next of kins ...

However ... I doubt they will be reading PPRuNe at this terrible stage of their lives - Reg and other info does give us all an immediate knowledge of many of our fellow colleagues and friends that fly from BQH aswell. I see no reason why this forum shouldn't be used for 'useful' information providing its accurate !

RIP, a very sad day for corporate aviation !

Thoughts to family and friends.

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Old 30th Mar 2008, 16:56
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Bloody Sky News - it's the News of the World on TV, makes me so angry.

My thoughts go out to all onboard and their families.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 17:01
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If it makes you so angry, dont watch it.

Wait until the facts come out, of course the likes of Sky news will try to sensationalise news to keep people watching.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 17:03
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I think the news people are interested in the possibility of innocent bystanders being killed. It seems obvious the passengers and crew are dead but they can't say that without confirmation.
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 17:08
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Sky showing "old pictures of Cessna Citation VP-BGE - the aircraft involved in todays incident"
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Old 30th Mar 2008, 17:10
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W/V?

17.05z - It seems that either Sky News reads what is written on PPrune, or they know something we don't.... they've just shown a Photo of VP-BGE saying that this IS the a/c....!?!?

Also, looking at the Metar History, winds are 200-250 mostly all day, presume Biggin were using rwy21 at the time? If so, yet MORE rubbish aired on TV!

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