Club 328 in trouble????

[2604]

G-JMDW

Phoenix Air was set up when this private owner purchase JMDW from MAS Airways. Phoenix Air owns the areoplane and lease it to companies and that is it I believe.

[x933]

Understood - I couldn't work out the link. Who's peddling it around the bazaars at the minute?

[Crosswind Limits]

Who or what is DA in Oxford?

[NewTimer]

Direct Air | Aircraft Charter and Management Services

at a guess.

[FlyingGasMain]

Only the brains of a small squirrel were needed to work out that doing a deal with PC was not a good idea. As DA had considerably more than that, the deal fell through.

[office bod]

Outstanding!!

As an ex employee, I was wondering if any others had any updated info re official written confirmation / news of P45's before the tax man starts wringing out my nether regions

[Phil Brockwell]

Anyone know if the Ops Bods have found alternative employment, I may have a lead on a job going.

[office bod]

ops guys

I believe that 2 of 4 have jobs- 1 now temping (moi) and one more, I believe, still looking although probably for f/o position.

[S Midgeon]

Okay, heres the chance if you are owed money by PC. The CEO who was dismissed by him with no pay has brought a winding up order for Club 328 to court in Brighton next Friday at 1500. Im told that he will be contesting this personally as he thinks he is being hard done by. If she wins the case its bye bye PC and Club 328. All those who would like to support her are allowed in to court if they are creditors and inform her solicitors that they will be attending. Details can be found in Mondays London evening Gazette(on line) Im also told that PC is desperate to keep his company afloat..... so lets go and support the plug pulling

[TP102]

I'll be there if I'm not flying that's for sure and anyone else who possibly can should make the effort. Ironic really seeing as some of us have been asked if we'd like to freelance for him now... ha ha ha!
Be interesting to see if the judge really has any sympathy for a businessman like him with such a huge number of creditors owed money.
T.

[Grum]

I emailed the 'Insolvency Service' asking for the status of 328. They replied;

According to the records available to me on the website at Companies House,
there is currently no record of any insolvency proceedings against Club 328
Limited (CRO 04748427).

The number above is the company reference number. You can do a search on Companies House to view company details. If there is an 'L' next to it it is in liquidation. This will also list the liquidator's details, if one has been asigned. Further contact details for a
particular insolvency practitioner (IP) can be obtained from the searchable
IP database on our website at The Insolvency Service Website

The address given for the company is the Maritime House address, which is the only place i can think of to keep calling asking for your P45.


Unfortunately the email ends with;

If the company does not become subject to formal insolvency proceedings you
can pursue it for the money owing to you by any legal means available, upon
which you may wish to take legal advice.

Personally i'm all for nicking the avionics out of his aircraft!

[TP102]

PC told me 2 days ago it will be liquidated next week...only thing is why should I start believing him now.
T.

[FlyingGasMain]

The staff keep getting told by one of the main investors and the finance manager that the company is winding itself up and that a liquidator has been appointed etc. We're only getting this information by phoning up and pestering people. However, there seems to be no real movement week after week and there has been no formal communication with any of the employees, including a P45. It's bad enough that no-one was paid and the company ceased operation, but to then ignore the staff afterwards is terrible.

The ex-CEO's petition to wind up the company IS scheduled to be heard next Friday and is advertised in the London Gazette as mentioned above.

[Hasher]

I left Club 328 a few years ago and I want to know why the people who really brought this company into the state it is today are not being persued?! This guy PC is the last in the line. I hope you all get your money and jobs soon, I'm owed a grand or so, but thats a diffrent story.
Whats happened to the Aussie ex chief pilot has he got a job and the great great Martin Doetzer is he being looked after?

Hasher

[S Midgeon]

Morning Hasher, with reference to GM and MD. GM is doing some freelance work and awaiting a decision from Direct Air ar Oxford. MD is now Hawker rated and also awaiting word from Direct and has a freelance job working at the Dornier sim in Schipol, and flies the occaisional hospital flight. On a lighter note MD is to get married on the 2nd August and if you are who I think you are you might like to attend.

[Hasher]

The greatest living German pilot ever, he is a Mentor, a skilled aviator and he taught me about maintaining standards.
Well done to the Gent he deserves the love of a good woman, this is fantastic news yes I would love to come if I can or at least send a card etc. can you PM me please.
Ta
Hasher

[ewe.lander]

Flying a Dornier over London Docklands rushing back to EGHI from Eindhoven was always a pleasure with Hauptmann Doetzer - a gentleman!! Hasher would you buy the beers at his wedding, if so the Dornier class of 04 might turn up!! Happy days dude.....

[S Midgeon]

Hey ewe lander,

Why dont you get in touch and then you can buy the beers ...its long overdue!!!!

[LGW Vulture]

......for anyone interested in leasing / buying G-SOVA here is the spec, just put out by Mr Crowther.

1991 CESSNA CITATION II

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Equipment Specifications

Year 1991
Manufacturer CESSNA
Model CITATION II
Price US $2,950,000
For Lease Call
Location Hove, Great Britain
Condition USED
Serial Number 550-0649
Registration Number G-SOVA
Total Time 6900 Hours
Overhaul 0 SNEW / 0 SMOH
Flight Rules IFR
Number Of Seats 7

General Information
Full JAR OPS compliant Citation II C550. Cessna weight incease.

Detailed Description
Full EFIS. Freon Air Con. Zero time motors. This aircraft is to be supplied in first class order, push button JAR OPS compliant for EU Commercial or private operations. FMS, EGPWS, TCAS II etc.


Airframe:
The airframe is low time and in good order throughout. Clean and well maintained with full history. Operated by UK AOC and UK maintenance facility.
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Engine Specs:
2 x JT15-4. One Zero time rebuild from Dallas Automotive and a second engine "Brand New" from P&W on the new for old scheme. Therefore both Zero time!
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Prop(s):
N/A
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Modifications/Conversions:
This aircraft features the last integral modifications from Cessna that preceeded the Bravo with the Cessna beefed up gear and additional MTOW. The aircraft also has all the MODS for EU Jar OPS. RVSM compliant. All stc's approved by the CAA. Freon Air Con also fitted.
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Avionics/Radios:
COMM [Dual] Collins VHF-22A
HF King KHF-950
NAV [Dual] Collins VIR-32A
FMS Allied Signal GNS-XLS
ADF [Dual] Collins ADF-60A
RMI [Dual] Collins RMI-36
TRANSPONDER [Dual] Honeywell MST-67A
DME Collins DME-42
AUDIO CTRL Avtech 5640-1
COMPASS SYSTEM Sperry C14-D
FLT-DIR Sperry FZ-500
ADI Sperry AZ-241
EFIS No 1 Sperry ED-800
HSI No 2 Sperry RD-450
RADAR WEATHER Honeywell ART200
MFD Honeywell KMD540
RADIO ALTIMETER Collins ALT-55
S/BY GYRO AIM AI-804
EGPWS Honeywell Mark VIII
TCAS Allied Signal TCAS-II
CVR Fairchild GA100
FDR Fairchild F1000
ELT Artex 100-4 ELT
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Additional Equipment:
Thrust Reversers
64 Cu Ft Oxygen bottle
Freon Air Con
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Year Painted:
2004
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Year Interior:
2003
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Inspection Status:
Recent valuations and inspections carried out.

[S Midgeon]

I wonder if that could be described as an asset to be got rid of before somebody happens along and impounds it for payment to creditors