Club 328 in trouble????
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Speedyflyer.
I know you've been here since I invited you to 'go public' with me (the little light beneath our usernames goes green when we're online
) so I can only assume that you won't be coming out. In the absence of any evidence to the contrary my suspicions seem founded.
I've no particular beef with you apart from wishing to see those who worked for nothing paid what they are due. If S Midgeon's post is anything to go by that may well come to fruition. I am only thankful that I got my relatively small amount of money out of you early on.
As for the rest of you, good luck. I know some are finding jobs and I hope the rest are successful.
I know you've been here since I invited you to 'go public' with me (the little light beneath our usernames goes green when we're online
) so I can only assume that you won't be coming out. In the absence of any evidence to the contrary my suspicions seem founded.I've no particular beef with you apart from wishing to see those who worked for nothing paid what they are due. If S Midgeon's post is anything to go by that may well come to fruition. I am only thankful that I got my relatively small amount of money out of you early on.
As for the rest of you, good luck. I know some are finding jobs and I hope the rest are successful.
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G-SOVA
Had a little laugh today when I popped in to the hangar to have a look at sova after that ad was pasted on here to find it still only has one engine and what's more no interior or glass avionics. $3million now seems a bit steep.
Guess they'll be re-fitted when someone buys it........
T.
Guess they'll be re-fitted when someone buys it........
T.
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No one to blame except PC
I get rather tired of PC and his lapdogs trying to lay the blame on everyone else for the failure of Club 328, the ineptness of his understanding of the business and his inability to listen to the professionals he had on his staff were contributing factors to the demise.
As the CEO the buck stops with him and not his underlings. He has a lot of questions to answer and a lot of debt to settle, doubt either of these will happen.
It is absolutely obscene of Speed Flyer (PC) to slur the good guys down at Xclusivejet. SL gave PC a platform to promote his business giving him his expert advice and total utter support. Look at the FACTS - once PC started doing so-called 'PRIVATE FLIGHTS' and ignoring expert advice that is when the relationship started to sour, then the bills stopped being paid, sound familiar?
As an AOC holder you have to be totally transparent, no under hand deals, no illegal flying and a reputation to uphold. Who is still going strong? XJC or Club328? The facts speak for themselves.
I congratulate EY for taking her stance and all the ex-employees for their loyalty to this despot, unfortunately the loyalty was only one way and now they are paying the price.
PC where are you? A lot of people want to talk. You can run but you can't hide, as I am sure the authorities will track you down one day and then you get your day in court but in this instance you will have to prove your innocence as we all know you are guilty.
As the CEO the buck stops with him and not his underlings. He has a lot of questions to answer and a lot of debt to settle, doubt either of these will happen.
It is absolutely obscene of Speed Flyer (PC) to slur the good guys down at Xclusivejet. SL gave PC a platform to promote his business giving him his expert advice and total utter support. Look at the FACTS - once PC started doing so-called 'PRIVATE FLIGHTS' and ignoring expert advice that is when the relationship started to sour, then the bills stopped being paid, sound familiar?
As an AOC holder you have to be totally transparent, no under hand deals, no illegal flying and a reputation to uphold. Who is still going strong? XJC or Club328? The facts speak for themselves.
I congratulate EY for taking her stance and all the ex-employees for their loyalty to this despot, unfortunately the loyalty was only one way and now they are paying the price.
PC where are you? A lot of people want to talk. You can run but you can't hide, as I am sure the authorities will track you down one day and then you get your day in court but in this instance you will have to prove your innocence as we all know you are guilty.
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Plane Chartering Operations
Couldnt help but notice that Plane Chartering(PC) is still advertising flights on thier website under a UK AOC. I wonder what he is using for aircraft considering the E90 is out of hours on both engines,there is a Citation in the hangar at Biggin Hill with only one engine and Club 328s AOC is in suspension at Gatwick and he has no staff!! Could this be wishful thinking?
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Pie in the Sky
PC - "Pie in the Sky, where?"
PC - "Can we use it for charter?"
PC - "Do we need and AOC for a pie?"
PC - "Tell you what, don't tell the CAA lets just do it, no one will ever know!"
Of course not, you don't have a crust to buy it, or do you?
If you have a crust I know lots of people who would like a bite!
Anyone want to buy a house in the south of France, if you have a crust you could get it cheap! If you have a pie you could get it for free!
I heard PC auditioned for the new Batman movie but they already had a Joker! So now he has auditioned for Crimewatch, they accepted him at the first attempt!
PC - "Can we use it for charter?"
PC - "Do we need and AOC for a pie?"
PC - "Tell you what, don't tell the CAA lets just do it, no one will ever know!"
Of course not, you don't have a crust to buy it, or do you?
If you have a crust I know lots of people who would like a bite!
Anyone want to buy a house in the south of France, if you have a crust you could get it cheap! If you have a pie you could get it for free!
I heard PC auditioned for the new Batman movie but they already had a Joker! So now he has auditioned for Crimewatch, they accepted him at the first attempt!
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Any news on the RP1 forms ex employees are supposed to be receiving, so we can claim at least some of the money owed! Seems a painfully slow process.
No correspondence or contact from anybody! Its f_
_ing disgusting the way the whole thing has been handled.
DG
No correspondence or contact from anybody! Its f_
_ing disgusting the way the whole thing has been handled. DG
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Can't believe PC's website is still there and has pictures of (unpaid) staff on it, including some staff that he unceremoniously and illegally chopped at the start of the year.
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Hope this helps. The sooner this website is down, the better.
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DawnB NO 
I'm sure if you were owed as much money as some of us on this site you would not be making comments like that. I'm also assuming you don't know the man, otherwise you certainly wouldn't be making comments like that.
DG
I'm sure if you were owed as much money as some of us on this site you would not be making comments like that. I'm also assuming you don't know the man, otherwise you certainly wouldn't be making comments like that.
DG
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I am only a woman in aviation so I don't know $.1t! anyway your not the first people in the world to loose money when a company goes tits up.
I do sense that some of you will moan for the sake of it and this place gives you the facility to do that.
Why would any of you keep working or flying if you were owed a lot of money over a period of time and if it was over a short period then it can't be that much.
Dawn B
I do sense that some of you will moan for the sake of it and this place gives you the facility to do that.
Why would any of you keep working or flying if you were owed a lot of money over a period of time and if it was over a short period then it can't be that much.
Dawn B
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As an outsider looking in on the 328 debacle I'll beg your forgiveness for poking my nose in here however...
Perhaps they kept flying because they are genuinely good people who thought that by doing so they could help?
As for the amount. Excuse me but who the hell are you to decide whether or not it was "...that much"? These people were ripped off. The amount involved is neither here nor there and however much it was (to you) is irrelevant. How dare you be so condescending?
Originally Posted by DawnB
Why would any of you keep working or flying if you were owed a lot of money over a period of time and if it was over a short period then it can't be that much.
As for the amount. Excuse me but who the hell are you to decide whether or not it was "...that much"? These people were ripped off. The amount involved is neither here nor there and however much it was (to you) is irrelevant. How dare you be so condescending?
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Sorry Dawn, but have you been in this situation before ? It actually takes time to set yourself up with another job and get out. Three people did manage it before things turned bad, but one deferred his start date in order to help the company out. The other 2 were owed some of their money. Even if you suspect the boss is an eejit there's often a desire to stay and help your colleagues and friends out as much as possible, which is a risk I admit.
The comment about amounts is a bit daft. One month's salary is a fair old whack especially if it's part of your budget. For some of the pilots there were several K in expenses as well, built up over a longer period. On top of which some people took quite a while finding another job and some have not found one. That can start hurting quite quickly.
The comment about amounts is a bit daft. One month's salary is a fair old whack especially if it's part of your budget. For some of the pilots there were several K in expenses as well, built up over a longer period. On top of which some people took quite a while finding another job and some have not found one. That can start hurting quite quickly.
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You guys (and gals) are all losers. If the guy doesn't pay you, why on earth would you fly ? If he hasn't got the cash to pay you today, what makes you think he will have the cash tomorrow ? I know it is all wishful thinking, but after all is said and done, he will only think about himself and not pay you. As and when your pay is due, and it isn't paid, the show is over. It may not be good news, but that's what it is !!! Start writing your CVs.
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