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Leavit has a point, something's definitely amiss at Gama, morale at FAB is desperate, at least 3 serving notice and 2 more that I know of, just about to serve theirs. The lack of roster and open ended trips seems to be the main source of unhappiness. There is a very high level of professionalism, with lots of good people, but with the current, exteme level of activity, the whole plot is pulled to the buffet, not sure anybody is listening to all the horns!
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"I think if you cannot come up with something concrete, and your observations are based on a couple of pilots bar room end of a long day moaning you should be careful about tainting a companies reputation."
Hear Hear Phil!!
I think "Leavit" should come clean about his connection with this fable or at least address specifics eh??
Jez.
Hear Hear Phil!!
I think "Leavit" should come clean about his connection with this fable or at least address specifics eh??
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Gama G4 for sale
I hear that they are selling a G4, and it is a heap.
Is this true?
A few years ago GAMA where the leading Moscow operation; paying good money, free hospitality for crew.!!!!, good rosters, and even perhaps respect. and good clients.
Then GAMA lost a good contract, and then the rot set in.
Whats next?
Removal of crew from Renaissance hotel in Moscow to apartments. Thats the rumour.
Guys "vote" with your feet.
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Is this true?
A few years ago GAMA where the leading Moscow operation; paying good money, free hospitality for crew.!!!!, good rosters, and even perhaps respect. and good clients.
Then GAMA lost a good contract, and then the rot set in.
Whats next?
Removal of crew from Renaissance hotel in Moscow to apartments. Thats the rumour.
Guys "vote" with your feet.
windy
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[quote=Phil Brockwell;2830325]Without any knowledge of Gama's specific ops, it's an air ambulance contract and by definition incredibly dificult to roster......your perception that it is a shambles is probably best interpreted as it's tricky and sometimes involves some firefighting, like all ad-hoc last minute rostering.
I assume I am talking to someone who has a good knowledge of airline ops management and am not patronising someone unqualified to comment?
I think if you cannot come up with something concrete, and your observations are based on a couple of pilots bar room end of a long day moaning you should be careful about tainting a companies
No,Phil I am qualified to comment but as I, said'watch this space !'
Its a pity this outfit is not as professional as some of their pilots are.
The Air Ambulance is a job which is not for the faint-hearted in winter especially and takes enthusiasm and dedication.
I assume I am talking to someone who has a good knowledge of airline ops management and am not patronising someone unqualified to comment?
I think if you cannot come up with something concrete, and your observations are based on a couple of pilots bar room end of a long day moaning you should be careful about tainting a companies
No,Phil I am qualified to comment but as I, said'watch this space !'
Its a pity this outfit is not as professional as some of their pilots are.
The Air Ambulance is a job which is not for the faint-hearted in winter especially and takes enthusiasm and dedication.
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As a current member of staff at Gama, I feel I have to answer some of the criticisms:
Yes, the G4 is for sale (as are all aircraft for the right price). It's not the newest of aircraft, but it's a perfectly good G4. And it's only for sale because the owner has upgraded to a G550.
The contract was not a good contract - infact I believe the owner of the aircraft we lost is struggling to find an operator for them once the current managment contract expires
Simply not true.
The CAA have just conducted their first routine audit since the start of the new ambulance contract, during which they looked at the rostering at GLA & ABZ, and raised no concerns. Incidentally, no pilots at GLA or ABZ have raised any problems with rostering through the company's internal quality system.
Yes, the G4 is for sale (as are all aircraft for the right price). It's not the newest of aircraft, but it's a perfectly good G4. And it's only for sale because the owner has upgraded to a G550.
The contract was not a good contract - infact I believe the owner of the aircraft we lost is struggling to find an operator for them once the current managment contract expires
The CAA have just conducted their first routine audit since the start of the new ambulance contract, during which they looked at the rostering at GLA & ABZ, and raised no concerns. Incidentally, no pilots at GLA or ABZ have raised any problems with rostering through the company's internal quality system.
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As a current member of staff at Gama, I feel I have to answer some of the criticisms:
Yes, the G4 is for sale (as are all aircraft for the right price). It's not the newest of aircraft, but it's a perfectly good G4. And it's only for sale because the owner has upgraded to a G550.
The contract was not a good contract - infact I believe the owner of the aircraft we lost is struggling to find an operator for them once the current managment contract expires
Simply not true.
The CAA have just conducted their first routine audit since the start of the new ambulance contract, during which they looked at the rostering at GLA & ABZ, and raised no concerns. Incidentally, no pilots at GLA or ABZ have raised any problems with rostering through the company's internal quality system.
Yes, the G4 is for sale (as are all aircraft for the right price). It's not the newest of aircraft, but it's a perfectly good G4. And it's only for sale because the owner has upgraded to a G550.
The contract was not a good contract - infact I believe the owner of the aircraft we lost is struggling to find an operator for them once the current managment contract expires
Simply not true.
The CAA have just conducted their first routine audit since the start of the new ambulance contract, during which they looked at the rostering at GLA & ABZ, and raised no concerns. Incidentally, no pilots at GLA or ABZ have raised any problems with rostering through the company's internal quality system.
'internal quality system'........exists only on paper !
This outfit suffers from 'Air taxi' mentality, apparently and is dismal in its attitude to its pilots !
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I don't and never have worked for GAMA and this is only my observation, but as unimuts pointed out earlier by dai rear
why has no one bothered to post exactly what is dangerous ? What should Air crew be aware of ?
No comments, Perhaps because there is no problem; maybe and I say MAYBE, Nothing dangerous too.
leavit
You cant really come on here and slate GAMA for explaining that nothing has been reported on the internal ordit. Fact is fact. If grimsdale is a liar and you know different, then why not explain.
Otherwise, if there is a serious situation then what can you lose ? Allegedly, as the flightcrew are leaving anyway, perhaps they need explain all.
So what exactly is dangerous then ?
A frightening and danegerous place to work
No comments, Perhaps because there is no problem; maybe and I say MAYBE, Nothing dangerous too.
leavit
You cant really come on here and slate GAMA for explaining that nothing has been reported on the internal ordit. Fact is fact. If grimsdale is a liar and you know different, then why not explain.
Otherwise, if there is a serious situation then what can you lose ? Allegedly, as the flightcrew are leaving anyway, perhaps they need explain all.
So what exactly is dangerous then ?
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I don't and never have worked for GAMA and this is only my observation, but as unimuts pointed out earlier by dai rear why has no one bothered to post exactly what is dangerous ? What should Air crew be aware of ?
No comments, Perhaps because there is no problem; maybe and I say MAYBE, Nothing dangerous too.
leavit
You cant really come on here and slate GAMA for explaining that nothing has been reported on the internal ordit. Fact is fact. If grimsdale is a liar and you know different, then why not explain.
Otherwise, if there is a serious situation then what can you lose ? Allegedly, as the flightcrew are leaving anyway, perhaps they need explain all.
So what exactly is dangerous then ?
No comments, Perhaps because there is no problem; maybe and I say MAYBE, Nothing dangerous too.
leavit
You cant really come on here and slate GAMA for explaining that nothing has been reported on the internal ordit. Fact is fact. If grimsdale is a liar and you know different, then why not explain.
Otherwise, if there is a serious situation then what can you lose ? Allegedly, as the flightcrew are leaving anyway, perhaps they need explain all.
So what exactly is dangerous then ?
This company has the same operating procedures as any other as far as limitations,minima,etc.and is operating in what can sometimes be a harsh environment which can often call for the pilots' skill to be frequently tested.............dangerous ....no !
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The 'dangerous' comment came from Dai Reader, I think he should clarify what he meant. For my part, and I've been close to the action for 18 months now and have never witnessed or heared of anything dangerous. Chaotic somtimes, thats the nature of this business, but never hazardous. So, Mr Reader, whats on your mind
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Oh dear,oh dear...........What can we say! I say 'we' because this username is a cartel of 5 individuals.A recent bit of verbal abuse by p.m. ( turned out it was an attempt to identify one individual from this username and was very libellous) was wide of the mark by 80% in identifying that individual.
Cheers all !
(and watch this space)
Cheers all !
(and watch this space)
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Now leavit,
I want you to read that back to yourself, and with hand on heart tell me it doesn't look like it was written by a schoolgirl, or is it schoolgirls.....who cares.
Phil
I want you to read that back to yourself, and with hand on heart tell me it doesn't look like it was written by a schoolgirl, or is it schoolgirls.....who cares.
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Well mr Phil (self appointed know-it-all) Brockwell, why don't you know what's going on here then ?
I suggest you check out the main forum ''rumours and news'' and have a look under 'fun and games at the Scottish Ambulance service''.
You are a bit of a twit methinks with your wiseass comments on things you know nothing about ! (or do you have you big fish friends in that particularly small pond ?)
I suggest you check out the main forum ''rumours and news'' and have a look under 'fun and games at the Scottish Ambulance service''.
You are a bit of a twit methinks with your wiseass comments on things you know nothing about ! (or do you have you big fish friends in that particularly small pond ?)
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well done there bilderberger, you must be really pleased with that post, because it doesnt sound at all like a schoolgirl as Phil suggested.
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Phil,have you always been a toss** or is this a fairly new thing ?
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Relax,Phil........windup only !
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