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leavit 1st Sep 2006 08:42

GAMA
 
Just heard,100% of GLA based pilots looking for new jobs with 3 working notice at present !
What does that tell you ?
Confused at PD.

Phil Brockwell 1st Sep 2006 08:56

I have no insight, but would expect that they are Kingair pilots who are building lots of hours on turboprops and ready to take a step to jets / larger aircraft.

Aren't most Kingair Pilots working towards the next aircraft?

Phil

leavit 1st Sep 2006 08:58

GAMA
 

Originally Posted by Phil Brockwell (Post 2817514)
I have no insight, but would expect that they are Kingair pilots who are building lots of hours on turboprops and ready to take a step to jets / larger aircraft.

Aren't most Kingair Pilots working towards the next aircraft?

Phil

No,these guys have been here for 6 months since the base opened !

Margarita 1st Sep 2006 10:10

...and now ready to move on?

Phil Brockwell 1st Sep 2006 10:13

I don't know how many turbine hours they've built over that time, but suspect it is an increase in job options based on that more than indicative of conditions etc.
Has anyone asked them.
Phil

leavit 1st Sep 2006 13:44

GAMA
 

Originally Posted by Phil Brockwell (Post 2817705)
I don't know how many turbine hours they've built over that time, but suspect it is an increase in job options based on that more than indicative of conditions etc.
Has anyone asked them.
Phil

Well,yes that would be a stab in the dark at the reason (but wrong unfortunately as I believe !)

Jinkster 1st Sep 2006 23:39

does anyone have an email for Gamma?

PM if you may!

Jinkster :ok:

lobanski 2nd Sep 2006 04:04


Originally Posted by leavit (Post 2817490)
Just heard,100% of GLA based pilots looking for new jobs with 3 working notice at present !
What does that tell you ?
Confused at PD.

So what, and your point is?

It's clear you're not a Gama employee.

Sherry Bobbins 2nd Sep 2006 12:37

Jinkster,

Check your PM's.

SB

Dai Rear 4th Sep 2006 10:32

The pilots are revolting
 
GAMA operation at GLA is a shambles. An object lesson on how not to run a new operation.
See my entry on the other thread "Medevac/Air Ambulance Work"
A frightening and danegerous place to work.

unimuts 4th Sep 2006 11:26

Dai Rear


A frightening and danegerous place to work.
What is dangerous ? Glasgow ? or GAMA ?

If it is GAMA then should you not tell the CAA ? :confused:

unimuts

lobanski 4th Sep 2006 12:47


Originally Posted by Dai Rear (Post 2823802)
GAMA operation at GLA is a shambles. An object lesson on how not to run a new operation.
See my entry on the other thread "Medevac/Air Ambulance Work"
A frightening and danegerous place to work.


Another moron talking out of place.....

I believe it's slander........

Phil Brockwell 4th Sep 2006 13:37

It's only one persons definition, and who knows how qualified that persons opinion is to define shambles.

Judging by Rears name he obviously has an axe to grind.

I'm sure the person who cleans my office thinks my desk is a shambles....who cares?

Phil

The Streets 6th Sep 2006 08:18

I just dont believe for one minute the sort of garbage being spouted on this thread about Gama.

I can only talk from the days that the King Airs flew out of ABZ, the contract back then was tough and demanding and requires a certain type of individual that can react to getting woken up at 01:00 and respond to the mission, in the 2 years that I was involved I dont think I ever heard a grumble as the conditions were tough (they knew what they were getting into) but the rewards were good, as was the time off etc etc. Most of the guys back then seemed to get a buzz out of the fact that they really were naking a contribution to saving lives.

I cant comment on todays operation, but I find it very difficult to believe things have changed that much, the infrastructure at Gama was superb and the management was sound and always aproachable.

leavit 6th Sep 2006 19:03

GAMA
 
Just Watch This Space !

Phil Brockwell 6th Sep 2006 21:54

Any current Gama Kingair chaps care to comment on this unsubstantiated hogwash.

I'm sure if any real scary dangerous stuff was going on it would have received more factual posts from people on the inside than this bar room tosh.

Sometimes people have to fly in the dark when it's windy....hmmmmmm.

Phil

leavit 7th Sep 2006 05:33

gama
 
The only 'frightening and dangerous' thing about this company is management's inept ability to run the operation properly ! Apparently the rostering is a shambles. Talked to several at abz about the gla base and all is definitely not well there.Also the abz base is now bringing into question the antics of the management.

Phil Brockwell 7th Sep 2006 06:13

Without any knowledge of Gama's specific ops, it's an air ambulance contract and by definition incredibly dificult to roster......your perception that it is a shambles is probably best interpreted as it's tricky and sometimes involves some firefighting, like all ad-hoc last minute rostering.

I assume I am talking to someone who has a good knowledge of airline ops management and am not patronising someone unqualified to comment?

I think if you cannot come up with something concrete, and your observations are based on a couple of pilots bar room end of a long day moaning you should be careful about tainting a companies reputation.

Phil

cambioso 7th Sep 2006 15:24

"I think if you cannot come up with something concrete, and your observations are based on a couple of pilots bar room end of a long day moaning you should be careful about tainting a companies reputation."

Hear Hear Phil!!

I think "Leavit" should come clean about his connection with this fable or at least address specifics eh??

Jez.

Phil Brockwell 7th Sep 2006 15:55

I'm sure Eddie Stobbart has the same problem with his drivers :E


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