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Old 5th Nov 2005, 15:48
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NetJets Pay

Hi all

I'm currently flying widebody for a small european operator. The moral is low among the drivers and I'm very unhappy.
I'm considering aplly to NetJets Europe. I appreciate very much if any of you could give some idea about the take home (after taxes) for the NetJets drivers and if there is any medical plan and loss of licence insurance.

Thanks a lot for your time.

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No LOL
Med insurance taken care off
Net Take home :

FO : approx 3500
Captain : approx 6000

Per diems not included. 70 E per day

Work = 18 days per month, roster is fix schedule is not not.
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Old 5th Nov 2005, 17:40
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Thanks a lot for the information, much appreciated.
By the way, those figures are tax free or not?
If not, In which country are the taxes paid.
Once again, thanks a lot for your time.

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UK tax is paid at source.
I believe Portugal tax is paid at source.

New pay deal coming in the new year for the small cabin fleet.

Other European countries have different arrangements.

Have a look at PPJN for more info.
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Angel

I was just wondering what would be the pay on long range Jets (GV....) since as o f/o on falcon 900, I get 3500 euros net (plus medical...retirement profits )

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Tax are paid in your own country at the local rate (exept UK and portugal).Unless you have a specific deal with your taxman.
AT NJE, two pay scales starting next year: 800XP and below, and F2000 and above.
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Hi all

About the rosters, are you happy with it?
I assume that taxes in Portugal and Uk are paid in accordance with their law.
What do you think, if I apply and pass the assessment (of course), which fleet should I expect. I mean there is a standart entry level for every new joiner regardless the experience?
From what I read here in the forums, everybody joins as a F/O. What about time to command?

Once again, thanks a lot for your time.

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Rosters have been a touchy point for some. You are contracted to work 18 days a month. Generally that is 6 on-4 off-6-5-6-4 or 5. It can be 6 on 3 off or even 6 off.
It depends on how many days are in that month and what season it is.

You can only do 55 hours duty per tour.

Fleet types. It depends on how many hours you have, how many jet hours you have prior and the company's needs on the day.

You will start as an FO and it could be on any thing from the Hawker (known as the Beech) 400XP, the Bravo, Citation Excel, Hawker 800XP and XPC, Falcon 900 or 2000, G4 etc...

You can be selected for command whilst you're doing your line training as an FO to having to wait a couple of years. It's up to you, the fleet and your hours. If you don't have jet time, you are usually required to get 500 hours jet before shifting seats. If you have a type rating on one of the fleet types, that will not guarantee you a slot on that machine.

You will find out at Indoc and even then it may change.

Taxes are very hard to escape.
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thank you but how much would a f/o on the long_haul fleet will get ??? ( see my previous message for the "continental" pay)
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Have a look at PPJN
While they don't have the fleet pay as such, the info is reasonably close to the mark. The Larger cabin fleet get slightly higher pay.

I know I am being a tad vague but we have signed agreements and I don't want to upset those in the head office.
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ok ,thank you for the link....!
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Hi guys, is there a website where i can find out more information about Net Jets and who to talk to about applying?
Do they need crew at the moment? i have BBJ, G4 and Hawker 800 time.
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Cool

26.2

You beat me to it............

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HI Stress Free,
Interesting times eh!!, now, what was that link again....

Net Jets will be my first choice going by what ive heard about them, my kind of work too.

time we had a beer


Thanks for the info Mike.
I checked out the website and will be sending in a C/V by E-Mail.
i noticed the 70 Euros per working day on top of the salary... am i right in assuming that covers lunch/dinner? and that hotels are covered by the company on top as required?

I see they dont take direct entry Captains, is there any flexibility there???

Appreciate your help,


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Thanks again Mike, thats great and just the stuff i need, i guess you're happy at NetJets.
I exchanged contracts on a house on Friday so i know how busy you will be!!

Cheers,

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26.2.

Mike Jenvey is very happy. Perma-grin happy. Life through his rose-tinted spectacles is great.

Not so for the several dozen pilots who resigned over the last few months. Those resignations served to make the company implement the pay scale adjustment they had been promising for about three years but there are still areas that cause friction.

I'm sure you're sensible enough to ask around and not make any rash decisions on the strength of one testimony. A search in this forum might be a good place to start.
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Old 17th Nov 2005, 13:12
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MJ.

Why does it bother you so that someone might have more information than you? Does it not occur that taking a step back and having a good objective look might grant you the same insight?

Take in ALL the options rather than sticking with your own blinkered opinions. Listen to those around you who might, just might, have a valid point.

26point2. As MJ says I post mainly in the negative about NJE (though not always), a role forced upon me by the happy window lickers at the back of the bus. As I've said before it's not all doom and gloom but you need to be aware and know some history. A search of this forum is as good a place as any to start.
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but you kept coming, back, & back & back.....
Oh the irony.



I listen very well
You have no idea how hard it is to bite my tongue on this one.


The 'forced' comment was tongue in cheek but we all know how you develop tunnel vision in your defence of all things NJE so I'm not surprised you missed it.

Keep it up MJ, we know you do it because management are watching.
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Dear Smeagel,

May I respectfully ask, as one very new to this company, why you choose to air publicly on this forum your grievances with NJE.

Furthermore, I am intrigued why you continue to work for NJE, when you appear to be somewhat unhappy with the terms and conditions. There are, afterall, many other jobs advertised weekly in Flight International.

Maybe I'm missing the plot here, but you are giving a very bad impression of this company, which so far has treated me very fairly.

Thanks in anticipation,

M2M
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Gee Smeagal, you must be a barrel of laughs to fly with !!
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