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Beamr 26th Nov 2021 09:42

interesting... initial feeling is a mock up of a Hawker Tornado with 24-cyl Vulture X-engine, but it isn't it...
The Italians had the Isotta Zeta 24-cyl X-engine, but can't find anything even remotely resembling the ac in the picture.

EDIT: while I was searching for (false) answer Noyade already nailed it. Ignore this post, big hand to Noyade for getting it!

Pypard 27th Nov 2021 19:04

Yes it is indeed the SNCASE SE 580: Noyade it's your helm!

Noyade 27th Nov 2021 21:38

Cheers Pypard!


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....503d8e3efe.jpg

Noyade 30th Nov 2021 04:48

Wiki says 41 were built between 1928-1930 (another source says 30).
USA.
Steve Whittman took over as test pilot when the company founder died in an aircraft crash and eventually relocated the company to Wisconsin.
Curtiss OX-5 engine.

Asturias56 30th Nov 2021 14:51

I think it's a Pheasant h-10? - there's one in the Air-venture Museum I believe

Noyade 30th Nov 2021 21:03


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11149372)
I think it's a Pheasant h-10? - there's one in the Air-venture Museum I believe

That's the one.
Over to you.

Asturias56 1st Dec 2021 07:30

Thanks - the clues made it (relatively) easy...................... try this
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7c28c5c742.jpg



Noyade 1st Dec 2021 10:09

I've read there were plans to produce this aircraft in West Germany as the Messerschmitt Me 100.

Asturias56 2nd Dec 2021 07:30

Really? I hadn't read that...........

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....75424f32da.jpg
A lot were built but didn't get to fly .

Noyade 2nd Dec 2021 09:28

I read it here...

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7f3560e280.jpg

(And the Hispano HA-200-RI Saeta was to be the Messerscmitt Me 200 Pfeil)

Asturias56 3rd Dec 2021 08:00

Yes - the Hispano HA100 designed by Messerschmidt - nice looking beast tho better without the tricycle undercarriage I always felt . They built a load and then the US wouldn't provide engines so they were scrapped........


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4ffc4fc250.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3b88494549.jpg

Noyade 3rd Dec 2021 21:40

Thanks A56.
Time again for OPEN HOUSE.

Self loading bear 10th Dec 2021 17:11

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....db7cb8613.jpeg
Something to ponder over, over the weekend

Noyade 11th Dec 2021 01:36

The Putzer SR.57 Bussard?


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6b0a4b2915.jpg

UV 11th Dec 2021 18:21

Looks as if the empennage went through several re-designs.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f57516abeb.png

Self loading bear 11th Dec 2021 18:42


Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 11154304)
The Putzer SR.57 Bussard?

Noyade nails it down again!
The Putzer SR.57 Bussard.
Although I had it with a ducted propeller

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ff80ab90d.jpeg


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7a462d1c3.jpeg

Noyade 12th Dec 2021 06:34

Thanks Bear!


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....92331df4c1.jpg

Noyade 14th Dec 2021 21:20

From the USSR.
First flight in 1933.
Seventy nine built (Wiki).
Two pilots and six passengers.
Power was a 480 hp M-22 (Gnome-Rhone Jupiter).
Used by Aeroflot until the summer of 1941 - then taken over for military work.

Self loading bear 14th Dec 2021 23:01

American?
I only see 2 bladed propellers with Ryan and Stinsons,
Distinctive wide window frame, but no hits.

Noyade 15th Dec 2021 04:34


Originally Posted by Self loading bear (Post 11156067)
American?

No mate, Soviet - see my post above you.


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