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Kitbag 28th Oct 2011 21:01

Bombardier Learjet Model 60?

SincoTC 28th Oct 2011 23:49

Hi spook

Seeing as you said it was hung underneath a bizjet, could it be a Pratt and Whitney Canada PW306B on a Fairchild Dornier 328JET ??

spook 29th Oct 2011 06:01

Kitbag has it:ok:

Noyade 29th Oct 2011 10:58

How did you get the photo?
 
Hi spook!

Standing on a ladder or are you a tall guy? :)

spook 29th Oct 2011 12:40

Hi Noyade - Actually I couldn't see what I was taking as I had to reach up - but not much! They're not very big these Lear's :)

http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o...1568resize.jpg

skytrain10 29th Oct 2011 14:55

Hi spook....looks like Farnborough?

SincoTC 29th Oct 2011 16:42

I just re-read the clues spook gave and I realise that he didn't say it hung under (that was LM's question) but on a bizjet, my confusion DOH!!

spook 29th Oct 2011 17:53

SincoTC - Even I was confused and had to double check! Skytrain - Yes Farnboro'! Anyway I guess we're awaiting Kitbag's next challenge.

Kitbag 30th Oct 2011 06:54

Apols, just checked in. OH unless I find something first.

Lightning Mate 30th Oct 2011 08:27

Did I hear OH?....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/u...29/jetpipe.jpg

skytrain10 30th Oct 2011 14:19

Wing mounted? A turboprop exhaust maybe?

Lightning Mate 30th Oct 2011 14:36

Neither mate. :\

skytrain10 30th Oct 2011 15:53

Ok, so a rear mounted integral jet then?

Lightning Mate 30th Oct 2011 16:11

Rear-mounted pure turbojet - 1955....:)

Lightning Mate 30th Oct 2011 16:28

I have just booked another long weekend in the Lake District, so will not be around next weekend for four days.

Have booked a very expensive country house hotel by Coniston Water. ;)

Going for an all day boat trip including lunch with wine.

safetypee 30th Oct 2011 17:15

Then perhaps your weekend thoughts of a pure turbojet would include 'blue' boats and Coniston Water?

Lightning Mate 30th Oct 2011 17:33

Maybe.................

safetypee 30th Oct 2011 17:50

…… and bits of a Gnat (?) stuck on the back of a pseudo high speed catamaran?
And your lunch would include a ‘Scottish’ named soup. OH!

Lightning Mate 30th Oct 2011 17:56

Well....what is it?

sycamore 30th Oct 2011 18:26

It would have to be Donald Campbells `Bluebird`....,SP should have control....

Lightning Mate 31st Oct 2011 15:35


SP should have control....
He should indeed, but he has declared Open House.

jindabyne 31st Oct 2011 16:10


Have booked a very expensive country house hotel by Coniston Water
There isn't one! See you in the Black Bull :D

SincoTC 31st Oct 2011 21:57

Well at least this one was intended to fly! Sorry, I'll get me coat.....

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...allenge005.jpg

safetypee 1st Nov 2011 01:46

Something vertical, with more than one of these engines?

Re the small disc-sectors on the external ring at base of the exhaust, are these thrust trimmers?

SincoTC 1st Nov 2011 07:09

Morning safetypee, good call on LM's Bluebird :)!


Something vertical, with more than one of these engines
Correct on both counts, but I have no idea of the function of those semi-circular shaped parts, initial thoughts were brackets for a nozzle extension but if so, why would they be oddly spaced, they also seem to vary from engine to engine! They're rather small, but maybe they have some influence on the flow/noise, possibly at max thrust, pehaps someone can enlighten us?

BTW, I'm after the engine type and aircraft.

Lightning Mate 1st Nov 2011 08:10

Morning.


pehaps someone can enlighten us?
I think safetypee is correct. They appear to be exhaust gas temperature trimmers, but there are rather a lot of them.


Something vertical
Still trying to work out what that means......Helo?

JEM60 1st Nov 2011 08:53

Something vertical,like a Shorts S.C.1 or Flying Bedstead, perhaps.?

SincoTC 1st Nov 2011 09:18

Good morning gentlemen (and evening Graeme if you're lurking) :)

At work now, but will monitor as often as possible.

Not a Helo LM, JEM60 is on the right track but it's not one of those two.

Lightning Mate 1st Nov 2011 09:31

Off we go then.

Bell Model 65 Air Test Vehicle?

SincoTC 1st Nov 2011 09:52

Sorry David, not the Bell 65 ATV

Lightning Mate 1st Nov 2011 09:56

Another shot....German/Russian.

SincoTC 1st Nov 2011 10:10

That narrows it down a lot mate, it is one of those two :E!!

Noyade 1st Nov 2011 10:13

Morning.

Thought VAK 191...but now Dornier Do 31?

Lightning Mate 1st Nov 2011 10:18

Evening Graeme.


"two vertically mounted engines"
A Yak 36?

Maybe the engines are RKBM Rybinsk RRD-41 liftjets.

SincoTC 1st Nov 2011 10:26

Evening Graeme,

Yes mate, it is one of the six RR RB-162 lift engines in the Dornier DO-31 :D

Noyade has Control :ok:

Noyade 1st Nov 2011 10:38

Thanks Trevor. Concentrated on the VAK 191 and found a photo of it in a museum...and next to it was the Dornier. :)

OPEN HOUSE.

Lightning Mate 1st Nov 2011 12:11

I always loved reheat.....hooligan kit.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/u...9/burnergo.jpg

safetypee 1st Nov 2011 14:03

Reheat – a very British term. Always required for Thrust, and often to get supersonic, but not necessarily to get airborne.
Or just a lost Phantom of my memory?

Lightning Mate 1st Nov 2011 14:07

I just love the way you answer things. :)

Imagine a Lightning with two Avons in burner, and you're only 21 years old.

The thread is all yours. :ok:

safetypee 1st Nov 2011 17:42

For the those lacking imagination - the 'Thrust SSC' supersonic car which used two RR Spey engines:
Thrust SSC | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Even with a vivid imagination, my record was only 195kts during takeoff with O/W jugs at a 6000ft alt airfield in Iran!
You could ponder the ground speed at the time as well as what the squadron was doing in that part of the world.

Open House – currently on ‘Atlantic’ time.


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