Horta in the Azores.

Open House if correct.

Yes, my next guess was going to be somewhere in the Azores. But, I don't know where exactly.

Horta it is. India Four Two has declared open house.

Sorry if this seems like I'm being a party-pooper, but would it maybe be worth having a no-Google Maps rule? I know we've got no way of checking but GM seems to take a bit of the fun out of this. Apologies for the Scrooge-like comment - I do appreciate the revival of this thread by I42, nvubu an others.

Agreed. As an aside, Horta a few years back. The island has some interesting aviation history.

https://azoresislandhopping.files.wo...0812.jpg?w=640

I agree with the no-Google Maps rule if it is the only image being posted - otherwise I've just found a host of locations when checking out all the airfields in Ireland for CGB's challenge. However, when there are old images being posted, and some of mine are 100 years old, posting the equivalent current view in b&w to show the difference/similarities can be a great/only help when things are getting sticky.


I've got one ready if no-one else wants a go :)

jensdad,

You raise an interesting point, which hadn't occurred to me before. I freely admit to having used Google Earth to track down posted images. In the case of Horta, my logic was:

1. I knew we were in the Atlantic but the vegetation was too lush to be Scotland or Ireland.

2. Wearing my geologist's hat, I thought the chunk of rock in the foreground looked distinctly igneous and the sloping terrain had the signature of the flanks of a volcano.

3. So I started looking at the Atlantic volcanic islands, starting with the Canaries and then moving to the Azores.

As a retroactive experiment, I tried searching for images, using "Canary airports" and then "Azores airports". It took me about the same amount of time to zero in on Horta as using Google Earth.

I'm happy to try the latter method in the future, but I'm a bit concerned the game may degenerate to a PPRuNe version of Twenty Questions:

France? Yes.
NW France? No
NE France? Yes
Lorraine? No
Alsace? Yes
and so on.

A few years ago a "frequent flyer" here was fond of doing an image search and then asking a few desultory questions before posting the answer. That MO seems to have gone away (at twice the speed of sound :E), thank goodness.

nvubu,
Can you clarify your post? I don't understand.

I hadn't taken it to mean don't use GM/GE to search, but rather don't post an image taken from GM/GE as an Aerodrome.

This is a screenshot taken from GE of CGB's challenge - and as such I was meaning I don't think it should be used as the initial image for a challenge.
https://o4c8da.bl3302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

However, I think if we had been stuck, it would have been OK to post it up a bit further down the line as a clue - as I have done previously with some of my WW1 aerodromes in Alsace Lorraine.

As for using GE/GM to search for the answer, I wouldn't have found a couple of your ones without GE - following the Mackenzie River at lunchtime was a nice way to spend an hour :ok:

Re Frequent Flyers:
The one I remember didn't even bother asking the desultory questions, but rather just came out with the answer immediately - very frustrating when you have spent some time putting a challenge together with a number of follow-up images :ugh:

As no-one has posted up a challenge, here's the one I had prepared earlier - click the image for a larger version
https://ylepuq.bl3302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

I agree with nvubu and India 42 - no GE images for the question and let the discussion run a bit longer before providing clues....

Now above those look like P39 Aircobra's to me - so maybe the Aleutians or S Alaska? Maybe Chignik Lake ??

They are taildraggers.

P-40 Warhawks??

Not Aleutians or Alaska.


P-40 Warhawks were certainly stationed there.

Akureyri in Iceland looks a possible............. but I don'tthink it was built during the war

Mountains don't look right..........

I did Narsarsuaq a few pages back - so it isn't that one.

HH - you are very very close, It isn't the current Akureyri airfield, but is certainly prefixed by Akureyri in an accident report I've seen.

If you search for the name the image has stamped on it and is referred to elsewhere - you get an island in the Greek Islands.

edit to add:

go south young man..... but not too far.

Melgerdismalar Gliding field?

Glad to see this thread so active.
I missed it.

Jenkins has the name, I think HH has the location - although I'm not 100% sure of the latter.

I think it probably is where the Melgerdismalar Gliding field is now, but I found a weather website earlier today (with readings from WW2) with a Lon/Lat that put it further north and across the valley away from the mountains - which didn't look right to me. Of course, now I can't find the website :(

Here's another view.
https://yplq9g.bl3302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

So Jenkins has it for the name, but HH for the location.

nvubu,

Your second image with the distinctive ridge in the background nails it.

See the ridge in the centre left of this GE view:

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/...psixputxm7.png

And as a nice tribute to the gliding connection, there's a photo of a Grunau Baby landing at the airfield (bottom right)!

albatross - I was surprised how inactive it was when came back to the site. I'm glad to see others are getting back involved as well.


Who's going to be next then :)

What exactly is the problem if this is done? :confused:

It's not really a problem, but it is more interesting with photos, and also in the very first post in the first Which Aerodrome thread

OK. That makes sense.
Thanks.

OK. Here's an "elderly photo", from one of my favourite books, which I acquired from a discard pile in my school's library:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...s27ihzfiq.jpeg

Is that a Short S33 biplane?

Interesting question. When I posted the picture, I was sure I knew what the aircraft was. After doing some research, I'm not so sure anymore.

However, I do know it was not made by Short.

Maybe it is a Wright No.1 seaplane?
http://flyingmachines.ru/Images7/Put...arly/269-2.jpg

Damn ... Better not "guess a floatplane" then :) - Terry I thought the pointy end was the front (but I know nothing about aeroplanes) and there a quite a few with the pointy end at the front, as well as a number at the rear as well!

Looks like the right shape for Windermere, Lake District - but I am guessing here


Waterbird & Henry Stanley Adams?

Terry,

Wright's not right. ;)


nvubu,

Good guess!

Also, the pointy end is at the front!

I guess that's a Good guess - wrong, rather than a Good guess - right?

Or should I have been more precise, Bowness-on-Windermere ?

Yess,
Good guess,
Bowness!

Well blow me down. I have no idea why, but Windermere just jumped out at me from the off. But I looked for floatplanes and came up with Frances McLean and the Short 33 flying under bridges - thought this would be worthy of being in a book.

Is it Herbert Stanley Adams, Waterbird ? - modern link


edit to add: OPEN HOUSE

nvubu,

Sorry, I missed your reference to Waterbird. I think the picture was taken from Waterbird, but it might have been Waterhen, the successor aircraft.

BTW, your link doesn't work.

The picture was taken by Gertrude Bacon, who marvelled at the fact that she could see the lake bottom. From her book "All About Flying". I have always felt that she must have been Roger Bacon's favourite aunt. ;)
This is a fascinating but little known piece of English aviation history. Lots more information here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakes_Water_Bird

Britain's First Seaplane

Waterbird

Gertrude was an amazing person, with lots of aeronautical firsts to her name:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Bacon

I see that Herbert Stanley Adams was her pilot. You have to admire an Edwardian lady, who not only goes for a joyride in a floatplane, but takes a camera with her! :ok:

This photo had been on my list for a long time, but my copy of the book is in storage. However, I have discovered that a reprint is available and amazingly, the whole book is online, including the pictures!

http://bookdome.com/science/All-Abou...l#.WGWZuJImTJo

Recommended. The picture of Bowness is in Part 6.

nvubu has the helm!

PS Beatrix Potter was one of group protesting about the aviation activities on Lake Windemere. I've just looked on GE and have seen what the lakefront at Bowness looks like now. Ms. Potter must be rolling in her grave!

Apologies for the thread drift but some details of the Waterbird replica can be found here ; Replica of Waterbird seaplane which inspired Winston Churchill is nearing completion - Chronicle Live

David,

No need for apologies. I see from the article that the replica was due to fly in September 2015. Did it fly?

No not yet , sadly it appears that the project has ground to a halt . The maiden flight was due to take place on 17 September 2015 but was postponed until Spring 2016 and I've heard nothing since although some dated news does appear on the project website ; Waterbird .

Going back ...
... seems like in those days the designers had trouble in deciding where to have the pointy bit.
Notice any design flaw here?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahi16kyfep...nery1.jpg?dl=1