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just a nondescript open field now. |
Thought that would help. Yes Morhange Aerodrome / Mörchingen Flugplatz it is. Unlike the 2nd world war, there was nothing phony about the start of the first. I couldn't believe how active and bloody August 1914 was until I researched the airfield.
The auction I found is here - some interesting images. Over to you Terry |
Nothing handy right now, so it's OPEN HOUSE.
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Well this one will last about 30 seconds, given the huge clue with the aircraft (it's just to keep the thread going, Your Honour):
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30 seconds?
Yeah right! You are a sneaky bugger, Rod. I think that airfield does not exist now. http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/...psz8dq6un9.jpg I reckon it is the (ex) Laverton RAAF base in Victoria. |
Laverton it is, now covered by housing.
Actually my previous submission (Werribee), lies just out of the top of the frame. Over to you... |
OK. Try this.
Here is another one that is not what it used to be. You can still see the ghosts of old runways. http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/...psv1etw5ff.jpg |
Looks like Tocumwal to me.
Open house if correct. |
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I did think about winding Ted up by saying "it's McIntyre Field"!
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Wanna buy a Kittyhawk for 15 pounds?
Tocumwal (aka McIntyre Field :D ) it is.
For those not familiar with the region it used to look like this. http://ozatwar.com/airfields/tocumwal04.jpg Interesting history. Wanna buy a Kittyhawk for 15 pounds? From 'History of the Tocumwal Airfield and its surrounds (by Bob Brown)' Link- At the war's end, Tocumwal as Australia's major aircraft depot, received hundreds upon hundreds of all types of aircraft for mothballing and storage. The rows of aircraft, packed wing tip to wing tip stretched as far as the eye could see, from one perimeter fence to the other. Nobody wanted these faithful machines that served Australia so well. Everyone wanted to forget the war and alll things warlike. After languishing in the elements for ten years or more, they were all, every last one of them, chopped up and smelted down into ingots of aluminium. Post-war, with everything in short supply, aluminium was a much needed commodity. It was needed for pots and pans and for the new Holden motorcar coming into production. Scrap metal merchants set up smelters on the aerodrome and bought the planes by the hundreds - 157 Pounds 12 Shillings and 6 pence each for complete Beaufighters, 20 Pounds for Beaufords, 15 Pounds for Kittyhawks, 8 Pounds for Vultee Vengeances - Liberators, Flying Fortresses, Mustangs, Mosquitoes, Wirraways, all went to the furnaces. Today, any one of these aircraft would be priceless. It's easy to be wise after the event, but it's beyond understanding that someone, somewhere did not have the foresight to save a few of these Australian treasures. Similarly, nearly all the 450 aerodrome buildings and all the hospital buildings were sold and removed. After the war when building materials were virtually unobtainable, the hangars, huts and workshops were snapped up by builders, giving no thought to any historical value. This photo is from the B-24 restoration project archives (well worth a look) Home | B-24 Liberator Restoration Australia chimbu warrior em i tok 'OPEN HOUSE" |
No-one else going to leap in?
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Since you insist. ;)
Here's one I've driven past a few times and never knew it was there. Not surprising really, considering it's on top of a hill and surrounded by trees. http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/...psrk5eufzh.png |
Somewhere in Canada?
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No. Further south.
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Rainelle, West Virginia ?
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bri,
That's amazing. Such a precisely defined answer and so precisely wrong! :) I just had to look it up. I can't believe there is another field with such a similar runway layout. Go further south. |
Time for a clue.
Go MUCH further south. Here's where you turn off the highway to go to the mystery aerodrome: http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/...psak8uls2b.png |
That looks like they are driving on the correct side of the road :)
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It may be correct, but it's not right! ;)
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New Zealand?
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Yeah, bro!
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Bit of research into road markings from here - blimey, you get led into the weird and wonderful on this thread.:ok:
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Hmmm, looks like the Te Marua? gliding site just north of Upper Hutt. I last flew from there 25 years ago - is it still open?
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siftydog,
That's the one, Kaitoke Airfield, home of the Hutt Valley Gliding Club. I stumbled across it on GE, when I was looking for information relating to the recent Rimutaka Incline thread on Jet Blast. You have control. |
Have to make it OH, though I've got a couple of tinkers from some old slides I'll copy for another challenge. SD
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Here we go then - a slightly different one from me
https://ppzf3g.bl3302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none Here's a link to the full-sized image as there is a huge amount of detail lost as I've had to shrink it down from 23465px to 1024px wide - although I have obscured the writing which gives away the name, date & photographer. |
What a great photo. Thanks for posting it.
blimey, you get led into the weird and wonderful on this thread That means the aircraft are not British or French as I originally thought. So that makes the aircraft Curtiss JN-4s (Jennys) around 1918. https://www.dropbox.com/s/xmb5cg216z...ndels.JPG?dl=1 The hangars seem to match with this photo. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Texas_1918.jpg I'll go for it being Dallas Love Field (KDAL) just after America entered WW1. |
It's not in Dallas, but you do have the right state :ok:
edit to add - the date of the photo is Jan 5 1919 |
I have just learned that the US Army Air Force marking started as a plain red star, then it changed to a roundel for commonality with other WW1 allies. 1. What would the Russian Airforce have done if the red star was not available? :E 2. I now know what the DH-4's markings are, in Kiwithrottlejockey's great photos: http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/o...y.jpg~original http://www.pprune.org/aviation-histo...ml#post9612142 |
It's not in Dallas, but you do have the right state Kelly Field ? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...xas_-_1920.jpg |
You have it in two - Kelly Field it is. I've changed the photo and links to the in-edited images - name in the centre, photographer on one of the buildings on the right.
Fascinating panoramic photo, and the level of detail is amazing. I do wonder what they are doing in the centre of the image. Holding hands? Control back to you. |
I do wonder what they are doing in the centre of the image. Holding hands? Maybe the aircraft arrived a bit early before they had finished. |
Staying on the same theme then.
Here is another; same era, same purpose, but nothing like the same scale. https://www.dropbox.com/s/s9pnopkggo2xg8x/PC.JPG?dl=1 |
Fly past?
The photograph was taken from the water tower. I think the letters are "SO" plus two others in the process of forming or breaking up. A panoramic photo like that would take perhaps a minute to take. What surprises me about the picture is that I can't see any* automobiles or trucks. *Whoops, let's change that to very few - perhaps five. |
The photograph was taken from the water tower. I thought it was amazing resolution to get from an airborne camera so long ago. |
Is it both a land and water drome?
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Is it both a land and water drome? Yes, it was also once a seaplane base too. Here is a photo of some seaplanes there in 1925 that could misdirect you completely. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3zob8yz4m7...lanes.JPG?dl=1 |
According to Wiki, USS Richmond:
In January 1925, Richmond, flagship of Light Cruiser Divisions, Scouting Fleet, again participated in Caribbean exercises. In February, she transited the Panama Canal and during March trained off the California coast. In April, she steamed to Hawaii for joint Army-Navy maneuvers, after which she joined the Battle Fleet for a good will cruise to Australia and New Zealand. Possibly Point Cook - if what I thought was a slipway is a jetty/pier (bloody long one), the buildings seem to match up. |
Coco Solo?
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There was a ramp at the end of the jetty.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2w845dlyk80vl97/Pier.JPG?dl=1 Point Cook it is. (or RAAF Williams for Dora-9 :E ) Point Cook is the oldest continuously operating military airfield in the world. It started in 1914 with some leading edge technology like a Bristol Boxkite. https://www.dropbox.com/s/cdz892k66l...xkite.JPG?dl=1 Well done nvubu, you have control. You can download free .pdf copy of the history. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ywmukayw92kccn/book.JPG?dl=1 at http://airpower.airforce.gov.au/publ...1914-2014.aspx |
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