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SincoTC 16th Aug 2013 10:28

Evening Graeme,

Yes, it is the Belgian Renard R.37 well done :D

Former unfinished R.36 evaluation aircraft completed with a 1100hp (823kW) Gnome-Rhône 14N-21 radial engine, aircraft captured by German forces in May 1940.

Back to you again :ok:

Noyade 16th Aug 2013 10:42

Thanks Trevor!

Next one...

http://i44.tinypic.com/35d21pt.jpg

evansb 16th Aug 2013 17:25

Piaggio FN.305 ?

Noyade 16th Aug 2013 21:41

Sorry Brian, turns out I already used this before here...back in 2009. No mate, not Italian...

http://i42.tinypic.com/29woc3m.jpg

http://www.pprune.org/aviation-histo...ml#post7995682

evansb 17th Aug 2013 16:20

Looks a wee bit like this, doesn't it?
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...psa5b5c315.jpg

SincoTC 17th Aug 2013 21:22

G'day Graeme,

It certainly does look a "wee bit" like the Piaggio, but I think it looks more like the Marcoux-Bromberg Special :-)

http://aerofiles.com/marcoux.jpg

Noyade 17th Aug 2013 21:47


Looks a wee bit like this, doesn't it?
It does mate....I think a lot of the racers of that time did.


Marcoux-Bromberg Special
But that's what it is. Well done Trevor, control is yours. :ok:

SincoTC 17th Aug 2013 22:01

Thanks Graeme,

Nice challenge :ok:

Here's a nice looking little aeroplane that didn't make it off the drawing board :sad:

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps55548971.jpg

Noyade 18th Aug 2013 21:25

Hello Trevor. From the USA?

SincoTC 18th Aug 2013 21:40

Not from the USA Graeme!

Noyade 18th Aug 2013 22:39

Truly wild stab....British Project?

SincoTC 18th Aug 2013 22:43

You're good at stabbing tonight mate :ok:

MReyn24050 19th Aug 2013 08:02

Hi
Trevor. I believe that might be the Essex Aero Sprite?
Mel

SincoTC 19th Aug 2013 08:22

Good morning Mel,

You believe correctly, it is indeed the Essex Aero Sprite, well done :D

http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPD...20-%200799.PDF

You have control sir :ok:

MReyn24050 19th Aug 2013 09:57

Good Morning Trevor.
Many thanks. Some very interesting information contained the the Flight Archives. My first thoughts, after Graeme had identified the aircraft as being a British Project, was possibly a Miles Project but nothing found in Don Brown's book "Miles Aircraft Since 1925". Next search was on Flight Archives for "Butterfly Tailplanes" and there she was. Great Challenge.
This one I am sure will cause no problems:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...ps2b73d3d1.jpg

SincoTC 19th Aug 2013 22:19

Thanks Mel,

Afraid that I've not had much free time today to look at your Parasol. Immediate impression was of a Morane-Saulnier of some kind, but now I don't think it can be a M-S as closer inspection reveals N type struts and cabanes (although I haven't trawled all of them), but the "house-style" doesn't fit, but is it French?

How many seats, it looks like there are two foot-boards so a trainer maybe?

Is there a radial lurking in the silhouette?

MReyn24050 19th Aug 2013 23:42

Trevor. My source says it is a Morane-Saulnier of some kind.

Noyade 20th Aug 2013 00:45

Morning Mel.


Morane-Saulnier of some kind.
Somewhere between the MS.340 and MS.345 maybe?

SincoTC 20th Aug 2013 05:51


it is a Morane-Saulnier of some kind
Thanks Mel, I should have stuck with gut instinct and trawled deeper :)


Originally Posted by Noyade
Somewhere between the MS.340 and MS.345 maybe?

I think you're probably correct there Graeme, although not the 345 as that had a single strut according to Airwar. However, why should I believe them!! I found a photo of a 340 with N struts but it only showed one wing, Wiki had no photo so I checked Airwar and it looked good but the text said it had 180 deg wing sweep (= unswept in bad translation), I though bugger and went to bed, I should have read Wiki, where it said 18 deg sweep, so it was a typo and not bad translation, although I should have looked closer at the Airwar photo, where you can see it's swept :ugh:

MReyn24050 20th Aug 2013 08:08

Well Trevor as you say you should have stuck with your gut instinct. graeme went for

Somewhere between the MS.340 and MS.345 maybe?
.
My source states it is a MS.341.

You have control Graham.


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