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Perhaps Three views are too easy.... |
A Bucker something? A Bestmann variant with new aerofoils?
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Not a Bucker......but it was a variant
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Looks French to me.
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Looks but is not....
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Is it a KZ?
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Not a KZ ...as per the reply to your first shot, it is a variant whose features are far less distinctive in the missing side view
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Is it a Bu##er 111 ?
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the u/c looks odd. Was it folding?
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Bu180???????
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Not a Bucker but it appears to be a Bu**er to identify. The wheels, tail and the wing are the features which distinguish this variant from the source design, of which approx 30 were built.
And to recap, not French, not Bucker or any other German and not KZ or Danish. Oh and the undercarriage was fixed. |
Then it simply must be the Kinnel KI-WTFO.
OK, I'll go now...... |
Today the Government announced a series of project cancellations . The research programme which this challenge was part of was itself cancelled and aviation historians have been arguing ever since about how misguided a decision that was.
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Good evening/morning one11,
I looks like it's the Miles M3 "Gillette Falcon" (L9705). Converted from an M.3B Falcon Six and used to test a wooden model of the "razor" sharp thin wing design for the M-52 supersonic research aircraft (at low speeds!!) That wing shape was bugging me this afternoon; it looked a dead ringer for the M-52 , but I dismissed it as being too unlikely to be related and I didn't have time to follow it up before I went home. Then I had to come back in, to do a remote support session for a customer and your latest clues prompted me to dig deeper while I was waiting for him to come online and it all fell into place. Please declare Open House when you confirm, as I'm going home now and its going to be very busy tomorrow. Good Challenge! |
Yes, a very nice challenge. It is now so apparent! Well done! RR
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Well done SincoTC - the Miles "Gillette" M-52 aerofoil test Falcon
http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/u...prune1706p.jpg and this explains the odd undercarriage...... The decision was taken to test the full size wings and tailplane of the M.52 on an existing aeroplane. Accordingly a pre-war Miles M3a Falcon Six (L9705) belonging to the Air Ministry arrived at the Miles experimental workshops at Woodley. This particular Falcon Six , powered by a 205 hp D H Gipsy Six had been used for some time previously at the RAE Farnborough for the testing of different aerofoil sections. In order to fully test the bi-convex wing the undercarriage was remodelled and fixed to the fuselage instead of the wings. This was a shortened M.38 Messenger undercarriage with the addition of cross bracing struts . Thus the highly polished knife-edge wing , of all wood construction was free from all unnecessary airflow obstructions. The cockpit was filled with instruments and extra fuel tanks making it a single seater. By the time of its first flight on August 11 1944 by Hugh Kennedy it had been popularly christened the “Gillette Falcon” |
Did I see an open house?
This is an interesting aircraft: http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/u.../wossat199.jpg |
does it really fly with such a deflection on the tailplane? I looks about to nose in!
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It's an artists impression, since no photographs of it exist to my knowledge.
It's possible that this one will need some clues.:) |
oo er.... I will definetly need a clue then!
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