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cringe 9th May 2006 19:38

Mel,

Not American. Inspired by a German type, but it comes from another country.

MReyn24050 9th May 2006 20:38

Another wild quess perhaps the Morane-Saulnier M.S.505 Criquet (Locust).Although I think it had a central windscreen frame and dual front seats.

cringe 9th May 2006 21:05

You're on the right track, though it's not a Morane-Saulnier.

treadigraph 9th May 2006 21:25

I've no idea whether it was inspired by a German type, but how about the Nord 3400?

cringe 9th May 2006 21:38

About the right era. Not the Nord 3400 - not French. Go East...

Churchill Polar Bear 9th May 2006 22:42

Benes-Mraz K-65 Cap, then ? (Czech-built Fieseler Fi-156 Storch)

cringe 9th May 2006 23:08

Inspired by the Storch, yes. Not Czech.

treadigraph 10th May 2006 07:28

How about the Slepcev (sp?) "mini-Storch" from Down Unda? Sorry don't know the full designation, but was mightily impressed by its low speed flying display at Biggin a few years ago!

cringe 10th May 2006 08:45

Sorry, not the Slepcev Storch or its variant. Nearly 150 built. Used by a European air force till early 1970s.

treadigraph 10th May 2006 11:53

LET Brigadyr?

cringe 10th May 2006 12:22

Nope. Not Czech.

jabberwok 10th May 2006 14:30

In addition to the German/French/Czech productions, the Storch was produced on license in Rumania by ICAR, who produced 80 Fi 156C-3 from 1943.

Failing that may I presume it is not a Storch variant but a new design "inspired" by the original?

One fascinating snippet from another Storch page:


The Fieseler Storch was the last dogfight victim of the western front. Pilot Duanes Francies and his observer, Lieutenant William Martin, of the 5th US Army Division, spotted a Storch circling below them while looking for ground targets in their Piper Cub. Diving on the Storch, the two men opened fire with their Colt .45s and the plane spiraled to the ground. After a short gun battle, Francies and his observer took the two Germans into custody. Lt. Martin was awarded the Air Medal for his part in the fight, but Francies would have to wait until the story was reported in Cornelius Ryan's book "The Last Battle," to finally be awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross. The USAF was 22 years late. Apart from being the last Luftwaffe plane lost in the west, this Storch was also the only enemy plane downed by pistol fire during the war.

cringe 10th May 2006 14:41

Not a license-built Storch. Not from the Romanian ICAR... Another pic:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ge_/unk43a.jpg

cringe 10th May 2006 18:39

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ge_/unk43b.jpg

treadigraph 10th May 2006 22:04

Ummmm... Even with your third "in yer face" pic, I simply haven't a clue Cringe, that one's really got me stumped! Cowling looks rather Zlin-ish, but you said not a Czech machine... A PZL design perhaps?

cringe 10th May 2006 22:31

No, not Polish either. The manufacturer featured in this thread before.

Genghis the Engineer 10th May 2006 23:01

Piston Porter?

G

cringe 10th May 2006 23:05

Not a Pilatus. I honestly didn't expect it to be that difficult. This should help:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ge_/unk43c.jpg

Genghis the Engineer 10th May 2006 23:31

It's very pretty - where can I get a go in one?

G

MReyn24050 11th May 2006 07:03

Ikarus Kurir L. As used by Yugoslavian Air Force.
Wow, now that was a challenge cringe.


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