Vickers Viscount - performance issues.
Interesting you noted that the Avro 748 seats of 44-48 was a 'Coach load' - never thought of that.
I always thought that Skyways had much input into the 748 design. They had established their coach-air operation from Lympne to Beauvais, with coaches to London and Paris. They initially used DC-3s, 21-24 seats, so two DC-3s were run for one coach. They were the first operator of the 748, and likely the first to order it. A "coach-sized aircraft".
Back to Channel Airways, they also adapted a DC-4, squashing in a record (I think) 88 seats, running on their Southend to Ostend shuttle many times a day. Ostend was the centre of coach operators for British coach holidays in Europe. Why 88 seats ? Two coach loads.
Dragging us back (yet again) to Viscounts, that Channel Airways livery on the Trident originated with a fleet of 11, no less, Viscount 800s that Channel bought from Continental Airlines in the USA. Their gold and black livery was retained almost unaltered by Channel, including keeping Continental's encircled eagle emblem, which they took for their own, and even the one notable change, the Channel Airways fuselage title, was done in Continental's distinctive font. They formed Channel's mainstream fleet at Southend for the rest of the airline's existence.
Are there other examples of airlines effectively taking on another ones livery for their own? I think I'll start a new thread later.
Probably Trident G-AVFA a Trident Two E.
The Trident 3B's were allocated from G-AWZA and so on...
All BEA and BA Tridents has some sections of rearward facing seats, including the One-E's with Northeast.
So all three types at BEA had at least some rear facing seats. The One and Two had more than the Three.
The Trident 3B's were allocated from G-AWZA and so on...
All BEA and BA Tridents has some sections of rearward facing seats, including the One-E's with Northeast.
So all three types at BEA had at least some rear facing seats. The One and Two had more than the Three.
Apols no Viscounts ..
Chev , thanks for the '' approved winds '' in Shetland . We needed them sometimes , even in ATP times !
Sorry for 19th Feb '76 , not on GIB , I was being 'retreaded after redeployment .. A double to DUB and AMS on T2 G-AVFF and T1 G-ARPD .
Apols to DR for harmonic echo , they all had front 1/2 of rear cabin [ down to emrg. exit ] with rear facing seats .
Gordo with his lack of landings ... Mainline Trids operated with 3 pilots , thus if Skipper gave every other ldg away , you as F/O only got 1 in 4 as both F/Os alternated sectors on P2 [ RH seat ] and P3 [ panel , Flt Eng seat ].
Capt Fred Terry , excellent Captain , pilot , aviator .
My 1st trip on the line after training , P3 to Athens , P2 back ... Capt. Fred gave me the t/o and ldg ! And another next day on a 4 sector Zagreb , Belgrade .
Mind you , quickly sussed out that from hot and heavy destinations , skipper often gave flying away ... They had Their Big , Hairy , Old , Mitts on the throttles and could decide how much , how long , an over temp and/or over RPM of the engines would be tolerated . Not some junior sprog straight out of training .
Fred's method of communicating with 'eyetalian ATC was just to shout louder , but equally he had delicate hands flying his beloved Tiger , UK's second oldest .. G-ACDJ .
Rgds condor .
Chev , thanks for the '' approved winds '' in Shetland . We needed them sometimes , even in ATP times !
Sorry for 19th Feb '76 , not on GIB , I was being 'retreaded after redeployment .. A double to DUB and AMS on T2 G-AVFF and T1 G-ARPD .
Apols to DR for harmonic echo , they all had front 1/2 of rear cabin [ down to emrg. exit ] with rear facing seats .
Gordo with his lack of landings ... Mainline Trids operated with 3 pilots , thus if Skipper gave every other ldg away , you as F/O only got 1 in 4 as both F/Os alternated sectors on P2 [ RH seat ] and P3 [ panel , Flt Eng seat ].
Capt Fred Terry , excellent Captain , pilot , aviator .
My 1st trip on the line after training , P3 to Athens , P2 back ... Capt. Fred gave me the t/o and ldg ! And another next day on a 4 sector Zagreb , Belgrade .
Mind you , quickly sussed out that from hot and heavy destinations , skipper often gave flying away ... They had Their Big , Hairy , Old , Mitts on the throttles and could decide how much , how long , an over temp and/or over RPM of the engines would be tolerated . Not some junior sprog straight out of training .
Fred's method of communicating with 'eyetalian ATC was just to shout louder , but equally he had delicate hands flying his beloved Tiger , UK's second oldest .. G-ACDJ .
Rgds condor .
