Name that Flying Machine

[Self loading bear]

By-Tor
welcome on this thread.
as you have been the first correct replier, you may stage the next challenge
If you have a problem with linking photos I will help you if you send a pm.
If you have no challenge yet please say so then Jelle Hieminga (nr 2 replier) will fill the gap.

the Aironix Airelle lives on as the Eulair Twin2

[Jhieminga]

Originally Posted by FlightlessParrot

What would be the efficiency of the pusher prop in that bizarre machine? It looks like the air it's working in would be very dirty indeed.

I understand it’s a flapped wing, which is interesting in itself on a canard, but with the flaps down I don’t see that rear prop doing much beyond 30% of what it’s capable of. Just a guess of course. It’s got two small engines, you might well get the same or better performance from a single O-200 if you’d have a good place to mount it.

[By_Tor]

I've tried posting a new challenge but I think something went wrong, so better make it an OH.


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[fauteuil volant]

I think, By Tor, that when you have made ten posts then you acquire the right to post attachments here. But until then, rather than refrain from posting your challenge, you could, if you wish, send the image to me and I'll post it for you and refrain from the competition. If that appeals to you, please send me a PM to let me know and I'll reply with my e-mail address so that you can send your image to me as an attachment. Then if you make a point of giving us nine clues in quick succession, you'll be ready to post your next challenge!

[Self loading bear]

Fauteuil,

By-tor also has no right to PM yet.
Jelle has something ready and can go ahead.
I hope By-Tor will soon reach 10 posts so he can join in the challenges.

[fauteuil volant]

Thank you, SLB. I didn't realise quite how draconian the regime is for newbies. Maybe By Tor should make nine consecutive posts which say no more than:

nine to go
eight to go
seven to go
..... !

[Jhieminga]

I'll break the impasse and put this one up. I thought we'd stay in the canard family...


Ask lots of questions By_tor.... I know from another thread that moderators are not that happy about posts purely for the sake of increasing your post count (am I allowed to use the term?).

[asw28-866]

Gosh, is it a "Bi-canard", "Cantriplane"? I imagine the aerodynamic interaction between to two Canard aerofoils is interesting?

[FlightlessParrot]

Originally Posted by Jhieminga

I'll break the impasse and put this one up. I thought we'd stay in the canard family...

Another canard ... from the Netherlands ... ? Canard a l'orange?

[fauteuil volant]

Surely judging by the positioning of the two forward winglets it must be a nenadovich biplane canard. And if one assumes that the lower undercarriage struts also are lifting surfaces, well ..... !

[treadigraph]

Originally Posted by FlightlessParrot

Another canard ... from the Netherlands ... ? Canard a l'orange?

Canard? Yes it is difficult isn't it....

Another pic I recognise but can't recollect the type. Sorta reminds me of the Libellula which maybe confoosing me.

[Self loading bear]

I think it is a Camping built plane?
At least he forgot to take out his Camping chair!

[FlightlessParrot]

Originally Posted by Self loading bear

I think it is a Camping built plane?
At least he forgot to take out his Camping chair!

The seat is rather like the front seats in the Citroen 2CV. I don't know if that is any sort of a clue.

[fauteuil volant]

Originally Posted by treadigraph

Sorta reminds me of the Libellula which maybe confoosing me.

You may have something there, treadigraph, with the Miles connection. It looks as if the forward fuselage of that canard started life as that of a Gemini!

[Jhieminga]

Let me start with a disclaimer: I don't know a a lot about this type myself. I can confirm that it is not from The Netherlands though.... I'll leave you to ponder this a bit more.

[fauteuil volant]

What it is not is the Ambrosini SS.4 but this is the only tailless canard pusher of which I can think which had biplane (or probably, strictly speaking, nenadovich) forward flying surfaces.

[Jhieminga]

You’re right, it is not the Ambrosini SS.4, but you’re in the right country.

[fauteuil volant]

Even though we now know that it's Italian, it appears that we're all stumped. Another clue might help to ease the wheels .....

[Jhieminga]

The problem is that I am running out of clues.... does it help if I say that it was a one-off? Probably not.... I also found that it was designed in 1944.

[Self loading bear]

Bazzocchi EB.4


Strange that it didn’t turn up when searching “Italy canard”
but does pop-up when searching “1944 canard Italy”

some more info on
More info EB.4

Link from the link