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Lufthansa L-1649A "Super Star" Project Alive and Well

Old 16th Mar 2018, 01:32
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Lufthansa Starliner Project gets the nix

Lufthansa Board of Directors has decided to pull the plug on the Super Star (L1649A) project in Auburn, Maine. The restoration was begun in 2008 and, after spending a reported $200M on the project, the board has made the misguided decision to end the project, which was nearing completion.

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Chopping off the wings can't be overly helpful to bring it back to flying condition.
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Perhaps if they had not wasted so much on a "new image" which has been roundly rejected by all who have seen it there may have been something left to complete this project. I hope either their board see, some sense or another party takes it on, Mr Cruise perhaps ?

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Breitling just ended all of it's aviation sponsoring. This leaves only Red Bull and Paul Allen to hope for.
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Ironically Lufthansa has just reported RECORD PROFITS of approx €3 billion for 2017!!!

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Chopping off the wings can't be overly helpful to bring it back to flying condition.
Where does it say anything about "chopping off the wings"?
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Lufthansa to move ?Super Star? from Auburn to Germany - Lewiston Sun Journal
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The 1649 has a one-piece wing. If they do chop it.. well then... that's all she wrote..

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Old 17th Mar 2018, 09:26
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The 1649 has a one-piece wing. If they do chop it.. well then... that's all she wrote..
I suspect that the poster who made that comment is getting confused by the photos of the R7V (L-1049) that's now at Townsville.
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All the Connie wings from the L-49 throgh the L-1049 were attached just outboard of the fuselage to the center section wing. Don't recall how the L-1649A wing was built.
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I suspect that the poster who made that comment is getting confused by the photos of the R7V (L-1049) that's now at Townsville.
No he isn't.
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No he isn't.
Fair enough, then he must have a vivid imagination if he reckons the 1649 in question has had its wings chopped off.
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The major difference between the 1049 and 1649 is the wing which was specifically designed to extend the range for the Trans Atlantic crossings.
The wing unlike all the earlier series is one piece. The only way to move the aircraft would be to separate the wing which was always transported separately during construction.


Referring to the mention of FEs. The museum operator that I was with until recently, specified 2 FEs. There are emergency procedures that require moving plumbing around in the fwd holds which is accessible in flight. Also some circuit breakers down there as well.

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although I don't have a link (yet) I have just learned that the Swiss Super Constellation (ex Breitling) has lost her caretakers association. They simply don't have the budget to maintain the aircraft.
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This link refers to the sad news that atakacs refers to.
https://www.superconstellation.org/fr/

Basically says the Flyers Association is being dissolved, decided on 23 April 2019. The 20 million CHF needed to restore HB-RSC has not been guaranteed.
There is a mention that this is not definitively the end of the story and efforts continue to save the situation.
Sounds a rather forlorn hope though.

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The wing is one piece with a center joint. Once joined, it is mounted under the fuselage by a small number of fittings only, fairly easy to separate again..You may call that 2 piece as well... But definitely no center wing box.The Flight global archive contains a nice multi pages report about the design of the L1649, don´t know the year by heart.
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Originally Posted by l.garey View Post
This link refers to the sad news that atakacs refers to.
https://www.superconstellation.org/fr/

Basically says the Flyers Association is being dissolved, decided on 23 April 2019. The 20 million CHF needed to restore HB-RSC has not been guaranteed.
There is a mention that this is not definitively the end of the story and efforts continue to save the situation.
Sounds a rather forlorn hope though.
As an aside this is somewhat related to the Ju-52 crash.

During the initial investigation it turned out that there was substantial corrosion inside the wings as recovered post accident.

This prompted a review of all vintage aircrafts in Switzerland, including the Connie. And low and behold it turns out that she would also need a substantial restoration which was not really planed till then.
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Good news: apparently HB-RSC has found a new home ! Let's hope they can indeed restore it to flight worthy.
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Thanks for that potentially good news, atakacs. I can't open the link you posted. Can you check it? Thanks

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Originally Posted by l.garey View Post
Thanks for that potentially good news, atakacs. I can't open the link you posted. Can you check it? Thanks

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I think it should be superconstellation DOT org/images/MV_4JUL_E.pdf
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