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Old 25th Nov 2019, 14:32
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Originally Posted by sycamore View Post
Are we in the realms of Thompson Trophy racers...judging by the instrumentation and past F1 experience...?
This aircraft type was not involved in Air Racing. However I believe the first of it's type did take part in a race against a speedboat. This particular aircraft was built to win a long distance record for light aircraft.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 09:08
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Think we're going to need more clues - is it Canadian?
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 09:29
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Not Canadian but right side of the Atlantic
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 11:16
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Travel Air Type R Mystery Ship Texaco 13?

Can't find a picture of the cockpit but it looks like a dog to fly
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 12:16
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
Travel Air Type R Mystery Ship Texaco 13?

Can't find a picture of the cockpit but it looks like a dog to fly
Not the Travel Air Type R. It was hoped, by the manufacturer of this flying machine, that it would do for aeroplanes what the Model T had done for autos.

Incidentally the attempt, back in 1928, to win a long distance record for light aircraft.in the subject aircraft failed and unfortunately the pilot was lost..
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 15:59
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Now with that clue...... The Ford Flivver?

https://www.thehenryford.org/collect...rtifact/264186

OH if correct
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 16:07
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
Now with that clue...... The Ford Flivver?

https://www.thehenryford.org/collect...rtifact/264186

OH if correct
It was indeed the Ford Flivver.

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Old 26th Nov 2019, 18:00
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Quite an unpleasant aircraft according to all concerned................
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 19:03
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Looks a complete different cockpit from my Flivver challenge of 9 October!
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 22:41
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Originally Posted by Self loading bear View Post
Looks a complete different cockpit from my Flivver challenge of 9 October!
The image was a screenshot from the Youtube video Ford Flivver 3218 (1928) which is a Pathe News film entitled "The Flying Flivver Lands in Washington
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 08:54
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According to Wikkipedia there were 3 protypes plus a completely new build version so the cockpits could come from any of them:-

Ford unveiled the Flivver on his 63rd birthday, July 30, 1926. Ford's chief test pilot was Harry J. Brooks, a young employee who had become a favorite of Ford. Brooks flew the Flivver regularly from his home garage to work at the Ford Laboratory, and later, used the second Flivver to move about the Ford properties. He once flew the aircraft in a race against Gar Wood in Miss America V on the Detroit River during the Harmsworth Trophy Races.[10]

In an attempt to draw on his popularity, Charles Lindbergh was invited to fly the Flivver on a visit to Ford field, August 11, 1927, and was the only other pilot to fly the Flivver prototypes.[11] He later described the Flivver as "one of the worst aircraft he ever flew".[12]
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A third prototype, tail number 3218, with "long" wings[13] was built to win a long distance record for light planes in 440 to 880 lb (200 to 400 kg) "C" class.[N 3] The race was set from Ford Field in Dearborn Michigan to Miami, Florida. A first attempt launched on 24 January 1928, witnessed by Henry Ford, landed short in Asheville, North Carolina. A second attempt, flying the second prototype, witnessed by Edsel Ford, Brooks launched from Detroit on February 21, 1928 but landed 200 mi (320 km) short in Titusville, Florida, where the propeller was bent, but still achieved a 972 mi (1,564 km) record.[15]

During his overnight stay at Titusville, Brooks had repaired the aircraft, using the propeller from the aircraft involved in the forced landing. He had also placed wooden toothpicks in the vent holes on his fuel cap to prevent moist air from entering and condensing overnight. On February 25, Brooks took off to complete the flight, circled out over the Atlantic where his motor quit and he went down off Melbourne, Florida. The wreckage of the Ford Flivver washed up, but the pilot was never found. Investigation of the wreckage disclosed that the toothpicks had plugged the fuel cap vent holes, causing an engine stoppage.[16]

Following the death of Brooks, Henry Ford was distraught at the loss of his friend, and light aircraft development was stopped under the Ford brand. In 1931, a new "Air Flivver" or Sky Car was marketed by the Stout division of Ford.[17] Ford went back into light plane development in 1936 with the two-seat Model 15-P. The prototype crashed during flight testing and did not go into production.
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 10:21
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Just to keep the Thread running

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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 10:47
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Possibly an Aero 145....?
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 11:00
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certainly looks a strong possibility - tho they varied in detail a bit I think
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 20:23
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Thats the aircraft. Aero 45 or 145.

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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 20:31
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Thanks,nothing at moment,soooo...OH......
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Old 2nd Dec 2019, 23:13
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Try this one:


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Old 3rd Dec 2019, 12:25
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Aeronca 11 AC Chief perhaps, it is certainly an Aeronca aircraft I am sure.
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Old 3rd Dec 2019, 21:19
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Nothing perhaps about it, as the original photo, reveals:





I've always felt it looked a bit odd with the snub-nose.

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Old 4th Dec 2019, 00:42
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Thanks Simon great challenge. Here is the next one:-


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