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Old 19th Mar 2021, 18:37
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Wow. 90 degrees of bank. zero ft., 33 knots and total electrical failure.
No idea.
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Old 19th Mar 2021, 19:06
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Looks like Smiths instruments, cross pointer FD, SEP 6 type AP servo indicator, large rad alt, twin turbo prop - red beta lights?
Square shutter system indicators.
Perhaps a 748, BA flight deck version and equipment.

or

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Old 20th Mar 2021, 21:13
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Originally Posted by dixi188 View Post
Wow. 90 degrees of bank. zero ft., 33 knots and total electrical failure.
No idea.
under normal conditions the aircraft would be between 200 to 500ft at 220kts and up to 60 degrees of bank. Definitely not a prop or a twin but sometimes flown as a twin.
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Old 20th Mar 2021, 22:59
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issa helo ,or something like an Osprey(V-22)......?
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The altimeter sub-scale is millibars only, so definitely not American.
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Old 21st Mar 2021, 02:53
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No idea from the original image, but the clues have pointed me towards the Nimrod MR2.

Nothing to hand so OH I'm afraid if correct.

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Old 21st Mar 2021, 04:12
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It looks like the Nimrod's AHs go to sleep on their side when not powered.
I wonder if that is an intentional feature?
Probably a great British design to go on one of the world's ugliest aircraft

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Old 21st Mar 2021, 16:05
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Originally Posted by asw28-866 View Post
No idea from the original image, but the clues have pointed me towards the Nimrod MR2.

Nothing to hand so OH I'm afraid if correct.

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It certainly is the P1 panel from the Mighty Hunter. There's a reason the horizon topples to 90 degrees; I could explain but it's been a long time and the flight instruments are not exactly straight forward (the picture is actually from the ground school Flight Instruments lesson slides!).

For those wondering about the 'flown as a twin' comment, The Speys (RB.168 Mk.250) were at their most efficient at 92% RPM so to keep them in that band on task, we'd shutdown (or idle) engines on task to conserve fuel (obviously dependent on AUW and Alt).
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 07:48
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Old 23rd Mar 2021, 21:52
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Fast.
Floater.
Italian.
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Old 24th Mar 2021, 14:02
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The picture gives it away, it so looks like a Schneider Trophy aircraft. Built for the 1930 race but wasn't finished on time; did establish a speed record in 1934 though. My guess is the Macchi Castoldi MC-72. Open house if right.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 22:41
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Macchi Castoldi MC-72.
Open house if right.

That's him Bob.

Open House.
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Old 26th Mar 2021, 19:23
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I found this cockpit in state of despair during restauration

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Old 27th Mar 2021, 17:51
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Same type but completely different dashboard
(Other instruments as well)


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Old 28th Mar 2021, 17:08
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Not many takers or not many triggered?
The type was produced in single seat with high back and low back.
The two seater (I think) only as high back.

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Old 29th Mar 2021, 08:18
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VNE 400 mph - not a Biplane then?
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Old 29th Mar 2021, 15:19
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A few strange things...

The Manifold Pressure gauge in the last pic is marked “2” meaning a multi engined aircraft. However the gauge in the other pic before is not so marked. I’m assuming it is a single engined aircraft, using a gash MP Gauge.

The speed limitations are placarded in MPH but the ASI is calibrated in knots. Surely not good practice?

VC (max cruise speed) is placarded as 270 MPH but the speed on the ASI (top of the green arc) is 280 Knots. A big difference....Is that right or have I got something wrong here?

So is it a high performance, single engine, American, Warbird type and tail wheel judging by the nose up attitude?
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Old 29th Mar 2021, 18:47
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I am sorry when I have let you off onto the wrong track.
With my remark of a completely different dashboard and instruments I was hoping you would concentrate on the surroundings of the cockpit and not the non-original instruments.
This particular aircraft has probably been completely renewed for instruments.
Original instruments were in different units and other alfabet.

I don’t know much about speeds, perhaps somebody else can shed a light on that after the type is revealed.

Yes, high performance, monoplane, war era, tail dragger
1 more different cockpit:


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Old 29th Mar 2021, 23:47
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Post 2196 gave away the lineage for me, looks distinctly Yakalov. As to which one, the high/low/ back, single/two-seat, sentence leads me to suggest, YAK-7.

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