What Cockpit?
"landing flaps 50 prohibited except for emergency" reads the placard. Airspeed max is 300 - presumably kt or mph.
Hard to read the lettering in the middle of the yoke. With image enhancement seems to have words "test" "initialised?" "??test under..>" just above the boys fingers
Military - not a lot of secondary instrument on LHS of cockpit - and slow
Not a Herc or a Transall I think
Someone might be able to ID the hideous food service point - those colours.........................
Hard to read the lettering in the middle of the yoke. With image enhancement seems to have words "test" "initialised?" "??test under..>" just above the boys fingers
Military - not a lot of secondary instrument on LHS of cockpit - and slow
Not a Herc or a Transall I think
Someone might be able to ID the hideous food service point - those colours.........................
"Are we inside a DC-9 this time?"" jeez I know they're old bu t even the oldest ones could do more than 300 mph. Tho MD did often run to 50 degrees of flap.................
Actually you're right 
- look at this early DC9-15 (N112PS) cockpit pic....................really basic!!
- look at this early DC9-15 (N112PS) cockpit pic....................really basic!!
Ahhhhh - pretty distinctive
only 1 built IIRC
only 1 built IIRC
Well from the photo it looks like a trimotor with fixed gear and no toe-brakes, built by a company that just loves rivets. Are the engine instruments set vertically for a reason?
As for the Brabazon, wouldn’t you have loved to have flown it, or at least heard one go overhead? Would have been an interesting type rating course (“today, the dreaded seven engine go around”) and I wonder if there are any Brabazon (or Princess) checklists in the public domain.
As for the Brabazon, wouldn’t you have loved to have flown it, or at least heard one go overhead? Would have been an interesting type rating course (“today, the dreaded seven engine go around”) and I wonder if there are any Brabazon (or Princess) checklists in the public domain.
tnarg,
I remember reading an article in an old TechAir magazine about the Princess. It had 2 flight engineers so that, with the un-reliability of the engines, the shutdown drills for one engine hadn't been finished before another engine had to be shut down. I believe on one flight 5 engines had to be shut down. Good job it had 10.
Dixi.
I remember reading an article in an old TechAir magazine about the Princess. It had 2 flight engineers so that, with the un-reliability of the engines, the shutdown drills for one engine hadn't been finished before another engine had to be shut down. I believe on one flight 5 engines had to be shut down. Good job it had 10.
Dixi.
European?
I'd dearly love to have flown the Brabazon - what boggles my mind is how the crew managed to get to grips with the necessary procedures of such a vastly complex aeroplane without a simulator or anyone to reach them how, but I suppose they would have regarded me in the same way I regard the children of the magenta line - a hopeless and unpractical aviator of stunted ability due to too much procedure, mollycoddling and automation. They certainly seemed adept at moving from one type to another and operating them just fine based on little more than first principles and airmanship. I think of 'Dixie' Dean being told, upon the outbreak of WW2, to take the prototype Beaufighter (was it?) from possible harm's way at Martlesham to Boscombe Down and he'd never even seen one before. He knew how to fly a twin and that was considered qualification enough. Figure it out for yourself, no pilot's notes and get a bloody move on! What an era that was!
thnarg, they loved rivets for a very good reason.
It is not a flying boat
It was European.
thnarg, they loved rivets for a very good reason.
It is not a flying boat
It was European.
But the Beaufighter was just a tarted up Beaufort originally
And I'm not sure it was at Martlesham at the outbreak of the war - almost all the development flying was done at Filton I think
Back to the challenge - doesn't look British or German - so ... Italian?
And I'm not sure it was at Martlesham at the outbreak of the war - almost all the development flying was done at Filton I think
Back to the challenge - doesn't look British or German - so ... Italian?