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Old 25th February 2023 | 18:52
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Amazing that the instruments in a Cold War supersonic bomber seem to have changed so little (if at all) since WW2.
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Old 26th February 2023 | 07:53
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I have to go out this morning so I'll confirm Bear has it with the Tu2-22 "Blinder" or "Awl"

If the design looks old its because it WAS old - they started on it 1954 and the prototype first flew in 1958 - its really equivalent age to the Vigilante and the Mirage IV. Absolute pig to fly but ooohhhh did it look good!!!





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Old 26th February 2023 | 09:47
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Thank you Asturias
Now this, same time frame, and breeze to fly:

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thought that was a Philippines A/W tail on the right but the colours are reversed
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Old 26th February 2023 | 10:51
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It's a Morane Saulnier Paris.
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Old 27th February 2023 | 11:47
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Originally Posted by meleagertoo
It's a Morane Saulnier Paris.
Mel has it, please take the wheel.
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Old 27th February 2023 | 13:02
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Old 28th February 2023 | 07:56
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Relatively modern dials - post 1960 to pre 2000?

Fighter stick , what looks like single throttle on left

No hi-tech interception radar or weird imaging devices in sight... perhaps a trainer?

So probably single engined - and a jet as it doesn't seem to have a prop out front?


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Old 28th February 2023 | 18:17
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All of your musings seem perfectly feasible, but whether or not they're accurate I couldn't possibly comment!
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Old 1st March 2023 | 08:02
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Yes well - currently slogging through page after page of mid/late 20th Century trainers................... there must have been hundreds of types!!
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Old 1st March 2023 | 12:20
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First flight was a little earlier than you mentioned. They saw service briefly but in small numbers.
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Old 1st March 2023 | 13:12
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Based on the harness buckle, American?
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Old 1st March 2023 | 13:57
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Indeed American.
Still three or four airworthy I believe, of which I believe this is one.

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Old 1st March 2023 | 15:20
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I think it may be a Temco TT-1 Pinto. Cockpit looks similar but updated.
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Old 1st March 2023 | 15:27
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Further research says it's a Super Pinto N4229.
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Old 1st March 2023 | 18:38
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The differences between the many variants and updates of the scant 20 produced make it hard to fix on a particular mark but either way ea200 has it. To get it down to an individual airframe is indeed impressive.
Well done!
It looks like a super little pocket-jet. I want one!

You have control.
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Old 1st March 2023 | 20:19
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Super Pinto
Seen here (as the revolutionary XJ-7) expertly flown by Farrah Fawcett battling a Zero hologram produced by 'bad' people in an episode of The Six Million Dollar Man - circa 1976.






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damn! I hadn't got to "T"

"It looks like a super little pocket-jet. I want one!"

original very underpowered - hence th "Super" upgrade according to Wiki
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Old 2nd March 2023 | 09:21
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I got lucky. Looking at a list of 1950's jet trainers I had never heard of Temco so started there.

Open house I'm afraid.
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Old 2nd March 2023 | 11:37
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
damn! I hadn't got to "T"

"It looks like a super little pocket-jet. I want one!"

original very underpowered - hence th "Super" upgrade according to Wiki
The original may have been somewhat underpowered (for Navy wave-off purposes) but I doubt any civvy owner would consider it so - and the remaining airworthy examples (of which my photo was one) are all Super-Pintos with a J85 producing 3000lb thrust. In an aircraft with a MAUW of only 3600lb! Climb rate is quoted at 10,000ft/min. I call that **** HOT!
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