Challenge

[Kitbag]

Darn it Sinco, you're right, I was going through the Vulture powered machines and got a bit excitifused!
SD, may I please change my bid to Blackburn B-20?

[sabredog]

That's rather good,SincoTC.
I shall give it to Kitbag, even though it is the "Blackburn" B-20.
Kitbag,
YHC

[SincoTC]

Thanks Terrence,

A good judgement, it was obvious from the word "interesting" that KB knew the identity of your Challenge and why I didn't name it (you could hardly say that about the Warwick I'll fetch me coat.....)

Catchya later

[Kitbag]

Thanks fella's. I have a challenge prepared, but can't upload it from here. If someone wishes to step in feel free, else I'll get it on early this evening

[Kitbag]

Here's the next one:

[SincoTC]

Evening kitbag,

Now that, like the B-20 is what I call interesting

I think like SD's last challenge, this may well be another case of ID the engine first and that will lead to the answer!

So it looks like an early(ish), bell shape (not straight sided), Basket-Tube type liquid fuel rocket engine nozzle ??

[Kitbag]

Almost certainly correct. This vehicle was powered by one liquid fuelled bell shaped engine.
TBH I can't find reference to 'Basket Tube' so will leave that.

[SincoTC]

Morning KB,

Thanks for the confirmation, I believe "Basket-Tube" was a word originally coined by Rocketdyne in patent applications for their method of forming the complex curved walls of their regeneratively-cooled thrust chamber from hydraulically formed nickel-alloy, stacked like a reed basket around a mandrel and brazed together. It seems the word fell out of use after they got the patent I've only seen it in a couple of highly technical books and there are only a few on the web.

I think that's a Rocketdyne LR79, so most likely the Challenge is one fitted to a Douglas PGM-17 Thor ?

Some Thor IRBM's were basin here for a while and they may have had a different designation and of course the Thor formed the basis of the highly successful Delta Space Launcher

[Kitbag]

Absolutely spot on, Thor it is

[SincoTC]

Thanks kitbag,

Here's the next exhaust; I' at lunch at the moment, but will monitor as often as possible

[SincoTC]

Hmm,

Just looking in to say I won't be able to monitor this evening!

Not a nibble so far; it's been very quiet and it seem's all people are biting is their lips

Back in about three hours or so

[Noyade]

OK Trevor.

Talk to me mate. The photographer is arching his back, looking straight up? Big podded engine hanging from a high-winged transport/airliner? The little snippet of airframe at top right is a "tease" and not part of the wing? But maybe it is the port wing? Or is it a rear fuselage engine and the snippet is part of the support? Or could it be that is a end of a fuselage and the snippet is a horizontal tail? And that looped cable(?) at top left?

But then after Thor, is it even a manned aircraft?

At the point the defense attorney would yell from the courtroom "objection your honour - badgering the challenger!"

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

It was manned, I admit that I've cropped it rather tightly and left a rather misleading snippet of something, but any wider view would make it very obvious.

the photographer is standing and pointing his camera horizontally

BTW, I gave a little clue in may last post

[SincoTC]

A little larger view may help

This should get you tasting blood when you come back Graeme, just like a very famous person did



'Tiz after one now so I'm off to bed, catchya later, good hunting

[Noyade]

Mate, I'm not sure where you're heading with the clues - biting lips, nibble, tasting blood - or are they clues?

But now that we can see the tubular support frame/legs I started looking at the Flying Bedstead, SNECMA C.400 P-1/P-2 and eventually remembered a Lunar Landing research craft...



Which looks very promising now that this has clicked in...

very famous person

...being Armstrong?

Anyway, if it is, I still haven't discovered a precise(?) name for it and even if I had it'd have to open house - not home tonight.

Cheers mate.

[SincoTC]

Afternoon Graeme,

I thought that would do the trick, even if the "Clues" didn't help much

It's real name is the Bell Aerosystems LLRV (Lunar Landing Research Vehicle) Aka LLTV (Lunar Landing Training Vehicle)

Lunar Landing Research Vehicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Check this video out Armstrong’s Close Call Armstrong

As to the clue; maybe too subtle, but it was all over the media at the time that his only injury was that he bit his lip and tongue when he hit the ground!!

Three out of the five LLRV/LLTV built were destroyed in crashes and it was often said that they were too difficult to fly, even for skilled Astronauts/Test Pilots like Armstrong; but the truth is that they were very advanced and had very complicated "fly-by-wire" systems and in all the crashes, system failures robbed the pilots of all control, forcing them to eject!

Have a good evening mate As Noyade has declared, it is Open House

[Noyade]

See post #2867 Mel.

[Noyade]

Check this video out Armstrong’s Close Call Armstrong

Thanks Trevor - very interesting!
Lucky guy in many ways.

[MReyn24050]

See post #2867 Mel.

Thanks Graeme, that is what comes of leaving the updating for too long. Challenge withdrawn.

Open House

[MReyn24050]

Here is an easy one to get the thread moving again.