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Here is a read only link to the Aerodrome Database - WhichAerodrome.xlsx. Up to date as of 1/5/2019. Catching up slowly - up to May 2019 now (Mar 2020).

Here are some "rules" for Which Aerodrome. These are based upon the original suggestions from the very first thread, and have a few additions. Also please be patient as when you are active others may be asleep.
  • A historic picture of an aerodrome will be posted. Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.
  • The person who correctly identifies it will be declared the 'winner' by the original poster.
  • That winner shall either post another challenge or declare the floor open. Anyone may then post the next challenge.
  • If the winner of the challenge does not respond to the notification of their success within 48 hours, an Open house can be declared when there is consensus between multiple other posters which are on line.
  • When the poster of a challenge does not respond within 48 hours of a posted answer, this poster can be declared winner if the answer is considered correct in a consensus of multiple other posters.
  • If Open House is declared, regular posters should not jump in immediately, but time should be given for those who are not great at naming the correct location as they may have some good images.
  • There will only be one challenge running at a time.
  • Try to use elderly photos and not Google Earth, Zoom Earth or any other search engine, pics
  • Try to post images that are not already present on internet, as Google Image Search will find them if they are.
  • Personal photos are acceptable as they show the aerodrome as it is now.
  • When confirming the correct location, the location and winner should be stated to negate any deletion of posts.
  • Please don't delete your posts, let everyone see your successes, failures and challenges.
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 01:23
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TD and D9,

Ignore the GOF. Can we have the Aloha Carrier back?

I assume it's probably docked in Pearl Harbor, but my carrier ID skills are not on a par with my aeroplane skills.
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 02:06
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Right. Seems like some of us are still happy with the way things are.
If you can identify the aircraft you will be almost there.
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 03:31
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The first two rows of aircraft look suspiciously like Gannets. I can't make out the last row. If that is the case and based on some quick carrier research, the superstructure and the partially angled flight-deck points towards HMS Centaur.
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 03:49
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Gannets yes. HMS Centaur no.
Good guess though.
This deck also has very little offset, only 5.5º as it was modified mid construction from a straight deck design.
Most of the early British and US carriers had around a 10º offset.
So scratch Britain and the US (it never operated Gannets anyway!) and there aren't too many navies left.
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Personally I like to read the 'extra' anecdotes people offer with their answers; I think they add to the quality of the replies.
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In that case, I was going to say HMAS Melbourne. My hunch was confirmed by Wikipedia, which has a slightly different photo taken on the same day.

Open house if correct.

chevvron,
I agree with you. Reading the reasoning behind the deductions and proposed answers, makes these kinds of threads much more interesting.
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 04:47
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You got it!

This is the Australian HMAS Melbourne in Pearl Harbour in 1958.
BTW the last row are Sea Venoms - the single fold wing with tip tanks makes the twin booms hard to discern.

As it was only a "little ship" according to the Americans it was parked where normally US destoyers were put.
The sailors did not mind this at all, as it placed them very close to the exit gates of the base and easy access to the delights of the civilian establishments just outside.
(A story told by a retired Australian Airlines pilot I know who flew Sea Furies and those Sea Venoms off this ship during his naval career)

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Old 14th Nov 2014, 05:25
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They said it was only a "little ship" then, imagine their comments when they saw the RAN successfully operating Skyhawks and Trackers off her later! Ted, I'm blown away by your knowledge of Commonwealth aircraft carriers and their aircraft...

Here's my next offering:

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Old 14th Nov 2014, 08:56
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imagine their comments when they saw the RAN successfully operating Skyhawks and Trackers off her later!
From Wikipedia:
...S-2 Trackers, with their 22.12-metre (72 ft 7 in) wingspan, had less than a metre's clearance for their starboard wingtip when landing, and pilots from other navies often refused to attempt landing.
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 18:57
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Dora-9: Extensive use of Wikipedia can make one appear quite knowledgeable.
In this latest challenge, the lack of the centre red circle in the roundel indicates the aircraft was in the South East Asia Command in WW2 when the red circle was hurriedly removed after an American Wildcat shot down an Australian Catlaina because it looked like it had Japanese markings. The red circle was restored after the war ended, so this is an old photograph. I'm guessing that this airfield with its distinctive runways does not look anything like the photograph now.
Are we somewhere in Asia?
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Old 14th Nov 2014, 21:50
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Actually I'm engaged in some "evansb cunning bugger" behavior - I think the glare has hidden the centre of the roundel and it's not, as you'd assume, a wartime RAAF or RAF SEAC roundel. It's a 1950's photo (definitely post-war) in Asia.

The airfield still exists.
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Old 15th Nov 2014, 10:35
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Jenkins - not Dien Bien Phu. It's an RAF airfield.
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It's an RAF airfield.
Well that narrowed it down. I looked up the list of RAF Far East airfields. I was familiar with the locations of most of them, but I wondered about Sek Kong. I thought it unlikely, being in Hong Kong, but to my surprise it is the aerodrome in question.

The runway layout is worthy of a caption competiton: "Bloggs, I meant Magnetic, not True. Go and build another runway!"

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India Four Two is correct, it's RAF Sek Kong, in Hong Kong's New Territories. I think the shorter runway was built using Marsden matting, and was replaced by the sealed runway.

I was originally going to use this photo, but that Wessex with the white markings is a dead give-away:



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Old 16th Nov 2014, 05:22
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I'll take back my Open House.

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Old 17th Nov 2014, 05:22
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Somewhere in New Zealand?

"Bloggs, I meant Magnetic, not True. Go and build another runway!"
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 06:29
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Yes. Somewhere in NZ, again!
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 23:02
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North or South Island?

I reckon the aircraft with the tilty canopy is probably a Vans RV7A.
There are not too many of that version in New Zealand (most have the sliding canopy), and I've matched the color scheme to ZK-RRV. That leads to links to Tauranga, Papamoa and a fly-in at Raglan, but none of these places have the distinctive mountain skyline in the background.
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Old 18th Nov 2014, 12:54
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Hi Terry,

North or South Island?
Exactly the question I was hoping for. The pedantic answer is "neither".

PS Compliments on your research.

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Stab in the dark; Rangitoto Islands?

OH in the unlikely event, off to the pictures...
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