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Here is a read only link to the Aerodrome Database - WhichAerodrome.xlsx. Up to date as of 1/5/2019. Catching up slowly - up to May 2019 now (Mar 2020).
Here are some "rules" for Which Aerodrome. These are based upon the original suggestions from the very first thread, and have a few additions. Also please be patient as when you are active others may be asleep.
 Thanks to Self Loading Bear for suggesting that we use a wiki. Which Aerodrome I Which Aerodrome II nvubu. 
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Which Aerodrome Mk III
Must be a volcano,highest is `Haut Dong Nai`...OH if correct
sycamore,
You are getting there!
However, Haut Dong Nai is on a plateau. This mountain is described as a volcano, but it might be a volcanic plug and it is not on a plateau. The base is close to sea-level.
You are getting there!
However, Haut Dong Nai is on a plateau. This mountain is described as a volcano, but it might be a volcanic plug and it is not on a plateau. The base is close to sea-level.
Hows about `bas Dong Nai`.....
Nice try but no. 
There is no other mountain as tall as this within 70 miles and only a small number of low hills in between.
There is no other mountain as tall as this within 70 miles and only a small number of low hills in between.
Last edited by India Four Two; 7th May 2013 at 05:55.
Nui Ba Den - Black Virgin Mountain - Tay Ninh province SVN - would make it perhaps Tay Ninh (West ?) Airfield. Lots of action -
but I can't for the life of me make any connection with the H-21.
but I can't for the life of me make any connection with the H-21.
Must be Toerong Prong,NE of Dak To..?
sycamore,
Sorry. Pipped to the post by LFH!
LFH,
Full marks for perseverance. It is indeed Tay Ninh West and the mountain is Núi Bà Đen (Black Lady or Black Virgin mountain).
Tay Ninh is just under 50 nm northwest of Saigon, near the Cambodian border, on the northern edge of the Mekong delta. You can see how anomalous the mountain is by looking at the safety altitudes on the TPC above. This chart comes from a great collection of maps here: Vietnam Maps - Perry-Castañeda Map Collection - UT Library Online
On a clear day (very rare), I can see the mountain from my office in Saigon. Because the delta is so flat, it's a bit like seeing an island come up over the horizon at sea. I can see only the top two-thirds of the 3200' peak.
The H-21 connection is on this page of a site dedicated to the Thunderbirds (118th Assault Helicopter Company) : Photo Album. The caption reads:
Tay Ninh is an interesting place in more ways than one. It was at the southern end of the Ho Chi Minh Trail so there was a lot of activity during the "American War", including an NVA assault on the US communications facility on the summit of the mountain in 1968: Attack on Nui Ba Den
More information on the mountain here: Story Of The Black Virgin Mountain
Tay Ninh is also home to the Cao Dai religion (formed in 1926) Cao Dai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, which had a private army. During the early 1950s, the army was run by General The (pronouced Tay) (Trinh Minh The - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), who figures very prominently in Graham Greene's book, The Quiet American and in the 2002 film of the same name by Philip Noyce.
Sorry for thread drift. I hope it is of interest.
LFH has control.
Sorry. Pipped to the post by LFH!
LFH,
Full marks for perseverance. It is indeed Tay Ninh West and the mountain is Núi Bà Đen (Black Lady or Black Virgin mountain).
Tay Ninh is just under 50 nm northwest of Saigon, near the Cambodian border, on the northern edge of the Mekong delta. You can see how anomalous the mountain is by looking at the safety altitudes on the TPC above. This chart comes from a great collection of maps here: Vietnam Maps - Perry-Castañeda Map Collection - UT Library Online
On a clear day (very rare), I can see the mountain from my office in Saigon. Because the delta is so flat, it's a bit like seeing an island come up over the horizon at sea. I can see only the top two-thirds of the 3200' peak.
The H-21 connection is on this page of a site dedicated to the Thunderbirds (118th Assault Helicopter Company) : Photo Album. The caption reads:
The story behind this mishap was, while taxiing to pick up ARVN troops at Tay Ninh City airfield, the right wheel fell into a covered "well" or hole. As the CH-21 rolled to the right, the blades killed approx. 8 ARVNs standing in a group. No word as to the fate of the 33rd crew.
More information on the mountain here: Story Of The Black Virgin Mountain
Tay Ninh is also home to the Cao Dai religion (formed in 1926) Cao Dai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, which had a private army. During the early 1950s, the army was run by General The (pronouced Tay) (Trinh Minh The - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), who figures very prominently in Graham Greene's book, The Quiet American and in the 2002 film of the same name by Philip Noyce.
Sorry for thread drift. I hope it is of interest.
LFH has control.
Must do the Graham Greene movie again. LFH
It was finally released in 2002 after vigorous campaigning by Michael Caine. He should have won an Oscar for his performance as Fowler.
Your latest picture. Are we actually in Tonkin this time?
Jack's Granddad
Looking at range of aircraft types and markings - French air force base? If so one of their former colonies so (thinking aloud) is it North Africa? Or perhaps it's Indo China. Mmm, need a clue I think.
Merci, mon ami.
I'm off to bed, so I'll leave Duckbutt to do the research.
I'm off to bed, so I'll leave Duckbutt to do the research.
My grandad says "When you're innanolelad – stop digging."
In ye olden days, Asterix quoth verily - "French Indo-China in tres partes divisa est. Cochin, Annam and Tonkin – south, middle and north in that order."
Not Saigon - Tan Son Nhut. I'm not sure TSN was that active in this time-frame. See posts 3777 to 3793 pages 189-190. Continuez à creuser, Monsieur Duckbutt.
LFH
In ye olden days, Asterix quoth verily - "French Indo-China in tres partes divisa est. Cochin, Annam and Tonkin – south, middle and north in that order."
Not Saigon - Tan Son Nhut. I'm not sure TSN was that active in this time-frame. See posts 3777 to 3793 pages 189-190. Continuez à creuser, Monsieur Duckbutt.
LFH
Last edited by Lordflasheart; 8th May 2013 at 19:56.
Jack's Granddad
In my ignorance hadn't realised about the three divisions I'll admit. So more Hanoi'ish then?
Edited to add that with that thought in mind a spot more creusering came up with Bach Mai in Hanoi. C'est possible?
Edited to add that with that thought in mind a spot more creusering came up with Bach Mai in Hanoi. C'est possible?
Last edited by Duckbutt; 8th May 2013 at 22:32.
Spot on Duckbutt. 
Hanoi Bach Mai it is. 1954.
Principal military and logistic airbase supporting Dien Bien Phu at that time. According to the writ, there are Navy Bearcats plus Cricquet, Pingouin, C-47, Beaver, Siebel, Beech 18 and Navy Corsair F4U-7 and AU-1 on the field. The pic below is looking towards the Red River with Gia Lam airfield (see page 94 post 1879) in the distant haze the other side of the river. LFH
Well done Duckbutt - You have control.
Hanoi Bach Mai it is. 1954. Principal military and logistic airbase supporting Dien Bien Phu at that time. According to the writ, there are Navy Bearcats plus Cricquet, Pingouin, C-47, Beaver, Siebel, Beech 18 and Navy Corsair F4U-7 and AU-1 on the field. The pic below is looking towards the Red River with Gia Lam airfield (see page 94 post 1879) in the distant haze the other side of the river. LFH
Well done Duckbutt - You have control.
Last edited by Lordflasheart; 8th May 2013 at 22:57.
