Bac/ Aerospatiale Concorde to fly again
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I'd love to think that 'biog' was a made up joke, but having dealt with Wart On and 'up North' types I sadly recognise it...so now thanks to them & a certain M.Thatcher our manufacturing industry is at best a ghost, at worst a joke.
We ( and the U.S. ) need to actually make things again - Harrier 2+ would be a good start, sod the company politics, we need them - also one suspects ships will be required, after a few years' lull the strategic world has suddenly gone mad..
I'd love to think that 'biog' was a made up joke, but having dealt with Wart On and 'up North' types I sadly recognise it...so now thanks to them & a certain M.Thatcher our manufacturing industry is at best a ghost, at worst a joke.
We ( and the U.S. ) need to actually make things again - Harrier 2+ would be a good start, sod the company politics, we need them - also one suspects ships will be required, after a few years' lull the strategic world has suddenly gone mad..
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I'd love to think that 'biog' was a made up joke,
Ben Lord’s Interests: Outside of work, I am keenly interested in trucks and have been part of the Stobart Fan Club for several years.
Additionally, I am very much connected to Concorde and in the run up to it's retirement, I was in complete awe of the plane and it's ability and impact on our country's heritage. I am also a keen driver of German cars and think Vorsprung durch Technik very much sums it up. For the last 2 years, I've managed to visit Australia 4 times and absolutely love the place.
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So, put the idiot in a cannon facing vaguely towards Germany; on his way down he can interface with all the Durch Sprung Technik ( Gotterdamerung, viss Computer has a Vill of it's own ! ) he likes as he descends.
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Double Zero,
Thread drift but:
There is an airworthy Lysander at Old Warden and at least one other overseas - Canada, I think
There are a few FW190s around including a D, but all FlugWerke ones I think. There is apparently an original airworthy one (in the USA?) but it is too rare and precious to risk.
I think that a recent FlyPast also reported on a well-advanced project to bring a HE111 back into the air, albeit an ex-Spanish Air Force one as used in the BofB film.
There are also, of course, the new-build Me262s from Seattle
Personally, if I'd lots of Euro lottery cash I'd throw it:
1. Getting a Mosquito up there again (even though there are 3 planned to get airborne in the next year or so).
2. Getting another DH 88 Comet up there
3. .. and a Beaufighter
4. .. and going to Reno to see the MB5 replica make it to the skies
ah well - I can dream
Thread drift but:
There is an airworthy Lysander at Old Warden and at least one other overseas - Canada, I think
There are a few FW190s around including a D, but all FlugWerke ones I think. There is apparently an original airworthy one (in the USA?) but it is too rare and precious to risk.
I think that a recent FlyPast also reported on a well-advanced project to bring a HE111 back into the air, albeit an ex-Spanish Air Force one as used in the BofB film.
There are also, of course, the new-build Me262s from Seattle
Personally, if I'd lots of Euro lottery cash I'd throw it:
1. Getting a Mosquito up there again (even though there are 3 planned to get airborne in the next year or so).
2. Getting another DH 88 Comet up there
3. .. and a Beaufighter
4. .. and going to Reno to see the MB5 replica make it to the skies
ah well - I can dream
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There was a project to build a replica HP42 but it seems to have fizzled out.
Funnily enough I was going to suggest this in my first post as a more sensible use of 16 million pounds to promote an appreciation of U.K. aviation heritage. One idea in the 80's was to use it as a flying "orient express' . The late Ray Hilborne was sure it could be certificated based on the original HP work. Like the H.P. 0/400 project dreamed of in the late 60's early 70's - perhaps a good idea looking for a backer?
Funnily enough I was going to suggest this in my first post as a more sensible use of 16 million pounds to promote an appreciation of U.K. aviation heritage. One idea in the 80's was to use it as a flying "orient express' . The late Ray Hilborne was sure it could be certificated based on the original HP work. Like the H.P. 0/400 project dreamed of in the late 60's early 70's - perhaps a good idea looking for a backer?
Work starts in £15m plan to get Concorde flying
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Idea already being hacked to pieces in history & nostalgia
http://www.pprune.org/aviation-histo...fly-again.html
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http://www.pprune.org/aviation-histo...fly-again.html
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The search feature is a wonderful thing! This is already being discussed here:
http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...de-left-2.html
http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...de-left-2.html
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All the above mentioned aircraft would be a delight to see again; I had my moment with Concorde when, in the right hand seat of our 'hack' Dove for a jolly, Heathrow ATC let us know there was one taking off beneath us, aiming West of course.
A lovely sight, for once silent to us ( I'd rushed back to the cabin to tell my chums, we were all returning from a Harrier trial at West Freugh ) - we must be one of the select few who've looked down on a Concorde in flight !
I'm aware of the various restoration projects including Lysander, that and the Beaufighter seem particularly appealing to me; if there's £15million going spare, I'm sure a lot of such projects would be very happy with a small portion...
While I'm banging my drum, I do hope the Indian Navy have the sense to keep an FRS52 ( Sea Harrier FRS1 look-alike ) for posterity.
I know they're being modified, but hopefully it won't change their external appearance much; and when I was lucky enough to work with them, they showed a lot more common sense & less 'traditional' BS than the RN.
We could then see a proper Sea Harrier 1, maybe even flying !
No offence to Art Nalls, who's doing a great job with our ex-development jet, XZ439; it will be interesting to see what records he establishes.
The HP42 would be wonderful, and possibly could make some revenue from passengers ?
I'd be in the queue, though god knows what red tape would be involved.
A lovely sight, for once silent to us ( I'd rushed back to the cabin to tell my chums, we were all returning from a Harrier trial at West Freugh ) - we must be one of the select few who've looked down on a Concorde in flight !
I'm aware of the various restoration projects including Lysander, that and the Beaufighter seem particularly appealing to me; if there's £15million going spare, I'm sure a lot of such projects would be very happy with a small portion...
While I'm banging my drum, I do hope the Indian Navy have the sense to keep an FRS52 ( Sea Harrier FRS1 look-alike ) for posterity.
I know they're being modified, but hopefully it won't change their external appearance much; and when I was lucky enough to work with them, they showed a lot more common sense & less 'traditional' BS than the RN.
We could then see a proper Sea Harrier 1, maybe even flying !
No offence to Art Nalls, who's doing a great job with our ex-development jet, XZ439; it will be interesting to see what records he establishes.
The HP42 would be wonderful, and possibly could make some revenue from passengers ?
I'd be in the queue, though god knows what red tape would be involved.
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Presumeably this Walt will want to start a new airline flying from Oxford to Tees Valley and back to London City whilst he is on, as is seemingly the way of the Walt.
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Brooksjg, This is G- BOAB at Heathrow, that I had the pleasure of being on the flightdeck in flight on one occasion. It was not upgraded after the Air France accident. There are possible plans to exhibit it next to the London Eye in an exhibition to show off British achievements etc., Whether or not this plan comes to fruition only time will tell.
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Which Walt are you referring to, the chap with a dream of making an HP42 ?
It would take a lot of effort, but the technology is certainly there !
It's just a matter of money; as the racing car driver ( Craig X ? ) and the chap in "Mad Max' put it, 'speed is just a matter of money, how fast do you want to go ?!"
I'd be quite happy to trundle around in a HP42, and see the scenery rather than in a Concorde.
Walt's are berks who pretend to be ex-miltary with illustrious careers; this chap at most offensive would be called an optimistic dreamer.
It would take a lot of effort, but the technology is certainly there !
It's just a matter of money; as the racing car driver ( Craig X ? ) and the chap in "Mad Max' put it, 'speed is just a matter of money, how fast do you want to go ?!"
I'd be quite happy to trundle around in a HP42, and see the scenery rather than in a Concorde.
Walt's are berks who pretend to be ex-miltary with illustrious careers; this chap at most offensive would be called an optimistic dreamer.