Nigger's grave (Merged)
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Ref "bl*ckboards", my grandson's school uses something called an "interactive whiteboard". Can I call for it to be re-named as it is discriminatory term?
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I believe your pp**ne avatar may also be considered in some parts of the world to be discriminatory sir, 
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(Off thread). No, mustpost; Herod was actually a great leader, as history has proven. It's just that the other side had a better PR machine for several thousand years.
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Herod,
I honestly don't know about your namesake being a great leader, but I do agree wholeheartedly that history is written by the victors...even Churchill had his bad points.
Though nothing will convince me he wasn't the perfect man for WW2, in the right place at the right time, and although there have been many senseless wars ( WW1 being the ultimate example ) the fight against Hitler & his MANY cronies was truly good against evil.
I honestly don't know about your namesake being a great leader, but I do agree wholeheartedly that history is written by the victors...even Churchill had his bad points.
Though nothing will convince me he wasn't the perfect man for WW2, in the right place at the right time, and although there have been many senseless wars ( WW1 being the ultimate example ) the fight against Hitler & his MANY cronies was truly good against evil.
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Just to dot another i , the aircraft the Germans got the Upkeep and release mechanism from was that of Fl/Lt Barlow. It hit power pylons just after crossing the Dutch/German border near Rees. The aircraft was AJ-E and had been the first aircraft to take off from Scampton at 21:28hrs. It crashed at 23:50hrs. The aircraft broke up and all the crew perished. It didn't burn nor did the Upkeep explode.
Source "Dambuster Crash Sites" by Chris Ward ISBN 184415568-4
There's a photo there of the local mayor standing by Upkeep - they thought it was a fuel tank.
Source "Dambuster Crash Sites" by Chris Ward ISBN 184415568-4
There's a photo there of the local mayor standing by Upkeep - they thought it was a fuel tank.
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No PC - No Theft - No Story
Surprised no one thought and had the sense to ask RAF Scampton what had happened to Nigger's gravestone - the answer is it's being cleaned.
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No Just The One
The details in your previous entry are wrong. Nigger's grave has never been at Woodhall Spa - the page from the book you have shown is incorrect! You shouldn't believe everything you read.
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As deltanav says, all you had to do was ask Merv Hallam, the curator of the Museum; I did, and this is his reply:
"This was all started by a visitor we had at Scampton assuming and that week the stone had been removed for restoration; we told them this but obviously they did not believe us; rest assured its back in place where it should be, dont panic, old boy, Nigger is Scampton's star attraction."
Mystery solved.
"This was all started by a visitor we had at Scampton assuming and that week the stone had been removed for restoration; we told them this but obviously they did not believe us; rest assured its back in place where it should be, dont panic, old boy, Nigger is Scampton's star attraction."
Mystery solved.
My late father was a wartime nav on 106 (although he went off to be an instructor in SA before 617 was formed) & knew several of those involved. I grew up in Woodhall Spa (in the days before the excellent memorial was built on the site of the old hotel which was accidentally bombed by an off-course German one night), & if he knew or believed that Nigger had been buried in Woodhall, I'm sure he would have told me.
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Thanks for solving the mystery. I did not get the chance to enquire at Scampton. It was Sunday, noone around, and I did not know whom to ask anyway. I am pleased there is nothing sinister going on.
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The Dog
The speculation about what the dog will be called in Peter Jackson's remake of the Dambusters is over.
My paper reports today that Stephen Fry was asked (it doesn't say by who) to come up with alternative names for Gibson's dog, but executive producer David Frost rejected them all.
He said "Guy sometimes used to call his dog Nigsy, so I think that's what we will call it, Stephen has been coming up with other names, but this is the one I want".
Jaclson has also just unveiled the first one of 10 full siize replica Lancasters at Masterton airfield in New Zealand
My paper reports today that Stephen Fry was asked (it doesn't say by who) to come up with alternative names for Gibson's dog, but executive producer David Frost rejected them all.
He said "Guy sometimes used to call his dog Nigsy, so I think that's what we will call it, Stephen has been coming up with other names, but this is the one I want".
Jaclson has also just unveiled the first one of 10 full siize replica Lancasters at Masterton airfield in New Zealand
That's meant to look like SCAMPTON in LINCOLNSHIRE?
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Fear no Herod, Peter Jackson is going to paint those hills in the background a sort of dull drizzly grey colour to represent the sky over Lincolnshire.
Henry,old chap, you should know better than to call those things hills.They are mountains.(So the poms think)
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