TAA and the DC-9
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The above picture looks more like the panel for B737. You can see the wheel well APU shut off, bottom left, plus the fire test panel and the electric panel looks like the 737's
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Mmmm,
Now doesn't THAT go to prove I was a dunce.
The lights in the panel are a bit of a giveaway, BUT I think it would be the 200 as we did our ground school on that and just did a bit of a differences course for the 300 if I remember right.
'Tis a long time ago... like more'n twenty five years.
Now doesn't THAT go to prove I was a dunce.
The lights in the panel are a bit of a giveaway, BUT I think it would be the 200 as we did our ground school on that and just did a bit of a differences course for the 300 if I remember right.
'Tis a long time ago... like more'n twenty five years.
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However,Sixierelic,yes we TAA (the friendly way) blokes did have the magic electric board. Had forgotten about it. Quite clever really. I guess it ended it's life at the dump as land fill. Please,Sixtierelic,make it today that you sort through your old photos,I have a feeling that you have a wealth of memorabilia that we all would love to see.
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Ah! Aye Ess, findin' the time. There's boxes of the buggers.
Too many projects.
Most pressing is sucking the memories from the brains of the B4s in PNG. They're in their nineties and I'm making a concerted effort at present to visit them and identify faces from my parent's and uncle's photos and colour movies of pre-war Guinea Airways.
Hopefully I can find descendants and let them see old grandad when he was a young bloke.
Some great stuff from those files like this sixteen or seventeen year old "cadet". (no licence... they were for starting the engines with a crank handle and releiving the pilot on long flights).
Wouldn't the rellies be stoked to see this?
or this?
Too many projects.
Most pressing is sucking the memories from the brains of the B4s in PNG. They're in their nineties and I'm making a concerted effort at present to visit them and identify faces from my parent's and uncle's photos and colour movies of pre-war Guinea Airways.
Hopefully I can find descendants and let them see old grandad when he was a young bloke.
Some great stuff from those files like this sixteen or seventeen year old "cadet". (no licence... they were for starting the engines with a crank handle and releiving the pilot on long flights).
Wouldn't the rellies be stoked to see this?
or this?
Sixtiesrelic
The magical board (TAA) of which you speak, as I remember, was designed and built by the Electrics Ground Instructor Bob Aiken. Such was the caliber of the instructional team.
Same bloke designed and built his own fixed base sim, at home, largely using u/s parts retrieved from the bins.
Remember this was in the days before PC's, remarkable.
And to top it off, he could teach.
Maui
The magical board (TAA) of which you speak, as I remember, was designed and built by the Electrics Ground Instructor Bob Aiken. Such was the caliber of the instructional team.
Same bloke designed and built his own fixed base sim, at home, largely using u/s parts retrieved from the bins.
Remember this was in the days before PC's, remarkable.
And to top it off, he could teach.
Maui
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On an earlier page EastWest Loco recounts an incident where a Diesel 9 was actually stalled to placate employees of the Dept of Moving Deckchairs.
It reminded me of a story from the same era that I have always wondered whether it was true or apocrophyl. Perhaps someone here may know or is it from the same incident?
A crew were doing some training which involved approaching the stall but recovering prior to the stickshaker. The story goes that the stickshaker was not properly calibrated (or some such) and the aircraft actually stalled. This supposedly caused the galley lockers to unlatch spilling their contents the length and breadth of the cabin.
This was, of course, prior to the plastic abominations that are currently used and so much breakage ensued. It was reported that the crew landed and handed the aircraft over to the ground staff and as they walked away the sounds of much wailing and gnashing of teeth was heard with nasty 4 letter words such as "damn" and "blast".
If not true it should be.
It reminded me of a story from the same era that I have always wondered whether it was true or apocrophyl. Perhaps someone here may know or is it from the same incident?
A crew were doing some training which involved approaching the stall but recovering prior to the stickshaker. The story goes that the stickshaker was not properly calibrated (or some such) and the aircraft actually stalled. This supposedly caused the galley lockers to unlatch spilling their contents the length and breadth of the cabin.
This was, of course, prior to the plastic abominations that are currently used and so much breakage ensued. It was reported that the crew landed and handed the aircraft over to the ground staff and as they walked away the sounds of much wailing and gnashing of teeth was heard with nasty 4 letter words such as "damn" and "blast".
If not true it should be.
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Please take into account that I'm getting on in years but... I understood that Captain Dinny Lawrence was involved in a hijack from OOL airport in a Viscount aircraft. Did I mis-hear or has there been two hijacks at Coolangatta?
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TAA and the DC-9
Dear animalclub
i am just relating stories from fathers generation who joined (circa 1954) at TAA .
Most of that generation saw initial service with the RFDS(seconded to them by TAA) or the Northern Territory Aeromedical Service or PNG.
My father was Captain John Charles Humphreys (BN/ then Charleville/Darwin/BN/ML BASE) who flew DC-3/DC-4/Viscount (700/800) /DC-9/B727/A300.
the DC-9 was my father's initial jet command which they all enjoyed flying !
cheers
dijon moutard
i am just relating stories from fathers generation who joined (circa 1954) at TAA .
Most of that generation saw initial service with the RFDS(seconded to them by TAA) or the Northern Territory Aeromedical Service or PNG.
My father was Captain John Charles Humphreys (BN/ then Charleville/Darwin/BN/ML BASE) who flew DC-3/DC-4/Viscount (700/800) /DC-9/B727/A300.
the DC-9 was my father's initial jet command which they all enjoyed flying !
cheers
dijon moutard
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Sorry folks,not strictly DC9 stuff,but Animalclub is awaiting a reply. The only other hijacking that comes to mind is the TAA Electra VH-TLB, SY-BN,19/7/1960. The hijack was reported as the first in the world(another TAA first!). The guy had a bomb & actually fired a shot from a firearm. Story at TAA Skyjack Dinny Lawrence was a deadheading captain on board who wacked the hijacker on the head with the crash axe. Ahh,crash axes.....is there anything they can't do?
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AnimalClub,
There were two separate incidents:
The first in the early 60's involved Tom Bennett, Dinny Lawrence on an Electra SYD- BNE;
The second in 79 involved Macca and the Diesel OOL- BNE.
Both ended peacefully, perp arrested and bravery awards for two very courageous TAA pilots.
There were two separate incidents:
The first in the early 60's involved Tom Bennett, Dinny Lawrence on an Electra SYD- BNE;
The second in 79 involved Macca and the Diesel OOL- BNE.
Both ended peacefully, perp arrested and bravery awards for two very courageous TAA pilots.
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Stalling
If my memory serves me well the incident was in the Mangalore area and quite high up. The aircraft approached the stall and then flicked. The crew down the back waiting their turn were the ones that packed it.
Some discussion ensued about leading edge damage causing the flick.
For those with long memories don't forget the funny tales of crew disappearing during flight by climbing into the E& E compartment under the Capt. seat.
No doubt we were at our highest standard while commanding this aircraft even though the yanks said "If you open the throttles and the horn don't blow....you go"
Some discussion ensued about leading edge damage causing the flick.
For those with long memories don't forget the funny tales of crew disappearing during flight by climbing into the E& E compartment under the Capt. seat.
No doubt we were at our highest standard while commanding this aircraft even though the yanks said "If you open the throttles and the horn don't blow....you go"
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Wasn't Johnny Benton involved in some sort of hijack?
I thought I was told this at the old TAA museum by one of the blokes there.
OK readers.... I've read the article after I wrote th eabove.
I'd always wondered why Benton went behind a desk.
I remember when he, Frank Ball and Winch were line pilots in Brisbane.
I thought I was told this at the old TAA museum by one of the blokes there.
OK readers.... I've read the article after I wrote th eabove.
I'd always wondered why Benton went behind a desk.
I remember when he, Frank Ball and Winch were line pilots in Brisbane.
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The hijack was reported as the first in the world (another TAA first!).
An old colleague of mine here in the Sandpit, Karem Sellian, claims he was the first pilot to be hijacked in the Middle East. He was hijacked by a lone gunman while a captain with Egypt Air, flying the Russian equivalent of the F27 in (I think) around 1964.
Hijacking wasn't even on the horizon in those days, and the company's first reaction when he didn’t arrive at his destination was to think he'd stolen the aeroplane! They sent the police around to his house to arrest his wife, and it wasn't until the hijacker let him make a phone call from wherever it was he'd been forced to land that it even occurred to them that he was being held under duress.
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Ansett also had an attempted hijack on the L188 SYD BNE. Capt Jimmy (fingers) Farrell was the Capt. Hijacker wanted to go to Indonesia. I think he ended up with a bump on the head from the fire axe.
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And another AN one was when Ralph Young's F27 was hijacked at Alice Springs (early 70s?) and the bloke wanted to fly off into the desert until the aircraft ran out of fuel so he (and everyone else on board) could die.
An Ansett first? - the first would-be suicide hijacker?
The Federal Police obliged him by shooting him as he 'resisted arrest'.
An Ansett first? - the first would-be suicide hijacker?
The Federal Police obliged him by shooting him as he 'resisted arrest'.
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Crashaxes
Fire axes ... used for all sorts of things.
I was told a story that some pilots, getting really p*ssed off with having to submit to security checks removed the axe from the aircraft and put it in their nav bags.
Went through security before flight.
Gorillas went into action refusing to allow the offensive weapon aboard.
Pilots sat down and said, "Plane can't go without it... give it back"
Tea 'n bickis for a couple of brave inventive coves.
Good on'em.
I was told a story that some pilots, getting really p*ssed off with having to submit to security checks removed the axe from the aircraft and put it in their nav bags.
Went through security before flight.
Gorillas went into action refusing to allow the offensive weapon aboard.
Pilots sat down and said, "Plane can't go without it... give it back"
Tea 'n bickis for a couple of brave inventive coves.
Good on'em.
