Sea Harrier photos from Falklands War - my dad? (E-J)
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Anna
Have only just seen your message of last year. I served on 892 NAS with your father in the 70's. My contact with your father was to get the list of faults with his aircraft after he landed back on. He was a pure gentleman.
I remember when we heard the news of his tragic death. My wife who had been a WREN at Yeovilton cried. What a waste of life.
Have only just seen your message of last year. I served on 892 NAS with your father in the 70's. My contact with your father was to get the list of faults with his aircraft after he landed back on. He was a pure gentleman.
I remember when we heard the news of his tragic death. My wife who had been a WREN at Yeovilton cried. What a waste of life.
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Sea Harrier Frs 1 Xz452
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If you havent already obtained a photo of XZ452, I have a colour slide of it which I can print and send to you, however it is in 899NAS marks taken on August 1st 1981 at Yeovilton. Maybe you would prefer it in 801NAS marks as it was transferred over on 2nd April coded 007
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If you havent already obtained a photo of XZ452, I have a colour slide of it which I can print and send to you, however it is in 899NAS marks taken on August 1st 1981 at Yeovilton. Maybe you would prefer it in 801NAS marks as it was transferred over on 2nd April coded 007
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Anna,
I am writing a movie script and one of the background stories is about a girl who's father was killed in the Falklands war. While researching on the web I came across your search of your fathers pictures on this site. I was surprised to see some of the similarities that I would have never known before. This is very spooky. I would like to talk to you, if you don't mind, please.
I think you can reply to my email address registered here.
Regards
Lola2009
I am writing a movie script and one of the background stories is about a girl who's father was killed in the Falklands war. While researching on the web I came across your search of your fathers pictures on this site. I was surprised to see some of the similarities that I would have never known before. This is very spooky. I would like to talk to you, if you don't mind, please.
I think you can reply to my email address registered here.
Regards
Lola2009
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Anna,
I'm pretty sure the ' Sea Harrier FRS1 ' at Yeovilton museum is a cobbled up fake, all usable Sea Harriers were converted to FRS2's then FA2's.
If ever coming down South ( please PM me ) we have a complete Sea Vixen and a Sea Harrier ( FA2 ) at Tangmere, West Sussex, which I'm sure you and your children would be welcome to inspect.
I used to know the daughter of a WW11 Test Pilot, - Robin Milne - she often used to say " if only I'd sat him down and recorded his experiences ".
Then in the mid 1980's a very good book was published, ' Test Pilots, the history of British Test Flying ' by the late Don Middleton.
He mentioned Jenny's dad, and she wrote to him saying " he did a lot more than that ! "
D.M. Replied that he would amend any second edition, and meanwhile would she like a tape of his interview with her Dad ?!
This was worth more than any gold to her; with a bit of luck something similar exists for your Father - I have found the archive section at Yeovilton quite slow to respond, but the engineers terrific; keep looking !
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Andy
I'm pretty sure the ' Sea Harrier FRS1 ' at Yeovilton museum is a cobbled up fake, all usable Sea Harriers were converted to FRS2's then FA2's.
If ever coming down South ( please PM me ) we have a complete Sea Vixen and a Sea Harrier ( FA2 ) at Tangmere, West Sussex, which I'm sure you and your children would be welcome to inspect.
I used to know the daughter of a WW11 Test Pilot, - Robin Milne - she often used to say " if only I'd sat him down and recorded his experiences ".
Then in the mid 1980's a very good book was published, ' Test Pilots, the history of British Test Flying ' by the late Don Middleton.
He mentioned Jenny's dad, and she wrote to him saying " he did a lot more than that ! "
D.M. Replied that he would amend any second edition, and meanwhile would she like a tape of his interview with her Dad ?!
This was worth more than any gold to her; with a bit of luck something similar exists for your Father - I have found the archive section at Yeovilton quite slow to respond, but the engineers terrific; keep looking !
Regards,
Andy
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Hi Anna
I am the Secretary of the Sea Harrier Association, which has recently formed. I will canvas our members to see whether we can get some images and stories about your dad.
We will also be creating a Garden of Rememberance on our website in the near future where your dad will be remembered. We also are in discussion with St Barts church at Yeovilton, whare we hope to install a commemorative bench in the new part of the churchyard.
If you want to keep in touch with the Association please feel free to contact me.
I am the Secretary of the Sea Harrier Association, which has recently formed. I will canvas our members to see whether we can get some images and stories about your dad.
We will also be creating a Garden of Rememberance on our website in the near future where your dad will be remembered. We also are in discussion with St Barts church at Yeovilton, whare we hope to install a commemorative bench in the new part of the churchyard.
If you want to keep in touch with the Association please feel free to contact me.
DZ, I am not so sure that the FAA Museum's FRS1 is a "cobbled up fake". I must admit that i thought that at least 1 FRS1 had remained in that configuration at Boscombe Down or with BAE for some reason & never converted. Why would anyone go to the trouble & expense of faking the early version?
DZ, I am not so sure that the FAA Museum's FRS1 is a "cobbled up fake". I must admit that i thought that at least 1 FRS1 had remained in that configuration at Boscombe Down or with BAE for some reason & never converted. Why would anyone go to the trouble & expense of faking the early version?
The 2 airframes are basically the same dimensions aft of the cockpit,so a reasonable representation I think.
All surviving FRS 1's were updated to FU2's
cheers LR
Done a little googling around...the GR 3 used for the yeovilton 'FRS 1' was XV760.
The nose still survives and used to be owned by one of Dunsfolds 'photogs'.
Istr the guys grafting the Shar nose on used an external butt strap around the fuselage but cannot find a close up photo of it...it may have been 'contoured' before paint anyway.
regards LR
The nose still survives and used to be owned by one of Dunsfolds 'photogs'.
Istr the guys grafting the Shar nose on used an external butt strap around the fuselage but cannot find a close up photo of it...it may have been 'contoured' before paint anyway.
regards LR
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Hi Anna
My dad was in 801 squadron and a lot of the people he works with now were also in this squadron. He knows of your dad and hes going to ask around at work and see if any people there have any pictures ofhim.
Sarah
My dad was in 801 squadron and a lot of the people he works with now were also in this squadron. He knows of your dad and hes going to ask around at work and see if any people there have any pictures ofhim.
Sarah
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FAAM Sea Harrier
The FAAM Sea Harrier is a genuine SHAR Fuselage, all though the wing is from a GR3. as detailed in the timeline below
XZ493 Crashed into the Adriatic while on approach to HMS Invincible, loss of yaw control in the hover - pilot - Lt D. Kistruck RN - hours at time of crash 2684.15
1/3/95 - Wreckage into 12 hangar at Yeovilton from AIU at Lee-on-Solent
29/9/95 - Remains transferred to FAAM charge for rebuild by BAe for new VSTOL exhibition
25/10/95 - To BAe Dunsfold for rebuild
18/10/97 - Unwanted parts returned to Yeovilton
19/10/97 - Unwanted items placed on Yeovilton fire dump
22/3/00 - By road from Dunsfold to Cobham Hall.
XZ493 Crashed into the Adriatic while on approach to HMS Invincible, loss of yaw control in the hover - pilot - Lt D. Kistruck RN - hours at time of crash 2684.15
1/3/95 - Wreckage into 12 hangar at Yeovilton from AIU at Lee-on-Solent
29/9/95 - Remains transferred to FAAM charge for rebuild by BAe for new VSTOL exhibition
25/10/95 - To BAe Dunsfold for rebuild
18/10/97 - Unwanted parts returned to Yeovilton
19/10/97 - Unwanted items placed on Yeovilton fire dump
22/3/00 - By road from Dunsfold to Cobham Hall.
FAAM Sea Harrier
SR Jones
Not wishing to hijack this thread for an argument about 'XZ493',I will PM you about it but are you aware that both 'Double Zero' and myself worked at Dunsfold and saw first hand the component parts of 'XZ493'.
regards LR
Not wishing to hijack this thread for an argument about 'XZ493',I will PM you about it but are you aware that both 'Double Zero' and myself worked at Dunsfold and saw first hand the component parts of 'XZ493'.
regards LR
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Just to confirm that the Sea Harrier FRS1 on the ramp in Hall 4 at FAAM is indeed XV760 a GR3 with the nose of XZ493 a FRS1 bolted on, all FRS1's were converted to F/A2's, no genuine FRS1 survives.
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Anna,
I was E-J' s instructor throughout the whole of his basic training at Linton-on-Ouse. We first flew together on his familiarisation flight on 16 Mar 66, and our final flight was on 5 Jan 67, a few days prior to graduation. His natural flying ability was evident from the start of his career, and we shared some wonderful experiences in the air. His wit, charm and panchant for mimicry made teaching him a joy. Always the showman, his presence illuminated many social occasions for most - but for other miserable sods he could be a bit of a pain in the posterior, and he relished the chance to increase their agony!
Unreservedly, I consider it to have been a rare privilege to have helped him on his way to scaling the heights that were his for the taking. Even now, so many tears down the line, I regularly fill and raise the tankard that he gave me when he gained his 'wings' to his fond memory.
I was E-J' s instructor throughout the whole of his basic training at Linton-on-Ouse. We first flew together on his familiarisation flight on 16 Mar 66, and our final flight was on 5 Jan 67, a few days prior to graduation. His natural flying ability was evident from the start of his career, and we shared some wonderful experiences in the air. His wit, charm and panchant for mimicry made teaching him a joy. Always the showman, his presence illuminated many social occasions for most - but for other miserable sods he could be a bit of a pain in the posterior, and he relished the chance to increase their agony!
Unreservedly, I consider it to have been a rare privilege to have helped him on his way to scaling the heights that were his for the taking. Even now, so many tears down the line, I regularly fill and raise the tankard that he gave me when he gained his 'wings' to his fond memory.
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Anna, I flew with your father at VX-4 in California. We were great friends. Love to get in touch with you, Sophie and your mom. Let me know how to contact you. Jim Sherlock, Capt., USN (Ret.)
fond memories
Anna.
I was in AEW in the RN and worked with and against E-J both at sea and ashore.
Fondest memory? I was on exchange with the USN VAW squadron at NAS Miramar in San Diego. I wandered into the WOXOF bar one evening and to my surprise E-J was at the bar. After the usual greetings and a beer or two I asked
"How did you get here?"
"Flew an S-2" Quoth he.
"S-2?...you've never flown a prop in your life. How the h..l could you fly an S-2?"
E-J ......" Oh it's really quite easy....All I do is ...(and here a languid sweep in the air as if addressing the overhead panel in the aeroplane)......Rearrange the switches in an eye catching fashion and off I go!!!"
Made me cry with laughter! I've told the story many times. It is E-J to a Tee. Laid back, fun loving and a great aviator.
I was in AEW in the RN and worked with and against E-J both at sea and ashore.
Fondest memory? I was on exchange with the USN VAW squadron at NAS Miramar in San Diego. I wandered into the WOXOF bar one evening and to my surprise E-J was at the bar. After the usual greetings and a beer or two I asked
"How did you get here?"
"Flew an S-2" Quoth he.
"S-2?...you've never flown a prop in your life. How the h..l could you fly an S-2?"
E-J ......" Oh it's really quite easy....All I do is ...(and here a languid sweep in the air as if addressing the overhead panel in the aeroplane)......Rearrange the switches in an eye catching fashion and off I go!!!"
Made me cry with laughter! I've told the story many times. It is E-J to a Tee. Laid back, fun loving and a great aviator.
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Anna, there are references to your dadīs participation in the war in many magazines.
Basically I have references to 3 missions flown by him on 1st may. One is discribed here:
Falkland Islands - A history of the 1982 conflict
The first mission:
"While the bombardment was going on there was the first reaction from the Argentine air defences resulting in few skirmishes between British and Argentine aircraft, but nothing was reported as hit on either side. Firstly, Flt Lt Paul Barton and Lt Commander John Eyton-Jones flying Sea Harriers of 801 Squadron were vectored onto three widely spaced pairs of aircraft approaching from the west at high level by HMS Invincible. Two more Sea Harriers were closing on the first pair but Barton and Eyton-Jones were initially alone in a potential 2 v 6 combat. The Sea Harriers were at 15,000 ft (4,570 m) and the lead pair of Mirage IIIEAs were at 34,450 ft (10,500 m), each remaining in the best performance envelope for their type. A purely defensive duel evolved, each side looking to draw the other into an area where they would have the advantage, until the Argentine fighters were forced to withdraw due to fuel constraints. The Sea Harriers returned to the carrier to refuel and await another opportunity. Several more probing encouters occured over the next few hours as the Argentine fighters sought a weakness in the British defences and searched for the ships of the Task Force."
I have no info about the two other sorties.
Regards
Basically I have references to 3 missions flown by him on 1st may. One is discribed here:
Falkland Islands - A history of the 1982 conflict
The first mission:
"While the bombardment was going on there was the first reaction from the Argentine air defences resulting in few skirmishes between British and Argentine aircraft, but nothing was reported as hit on either side. Firstly, Flt Lt Paul Barton and Lt Commander John Eyton-Jones flying Sea Harriers of 801 Squadron were vectored onto three widely spaced pairs of aircraft approaching from the west at high level by HMS Invincible. Two more Sea Harriers were closing on the first pair but Barton and Eyton-Jones were initially alone in a potential 2 v 6 combat. The Sea Harriers were at 15,000 ft (4,570 m) and the lead pair of Mirage IIIEAs were at 34,450 ft (10,500 m), each remaining in the best performance envelope for their type. A purely defensive duel evolved, each side looking to draw the other into an area where they would have the advantage, until the Argentine fighters were forced to withdraw due to fuel constraints. The Sea Harriers returned to the carrier to refuel and await another opportunity. Several more probing encouters occured over the next few hours as the Argentine fighters sought a weakness in the British defences and searched for the ships of the Task Force."
I have no info about the two other sorties.
Regards